Who is wifebucket.com and why do they think it is ok to steal!???

[john-tym]

This video:
http://www.tube8.com/amateur/great-a...facial/230993/

We shot this scene for Home Grown Video. It is now posted on tube8.com and watermarked 'wifebucket.com' ????? Can someone explain this to me? Or is blatant theft just the norm this days??

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by jewels

This video:
http://www.tube8.com/amateur/great-a...facial/230993/

We shot this scene for Home Grown Video. It is now posted on tube8.com and watermarked 'wifebucket.com' ????? Can someone explain this to me? Or is blatant theft just the norm this days??

It's on tube 8 and your concern is that somebody else stole it?

Content that has been stolen from somebody who stole it becomes secondary theft which is similar to 2 negatives equaling a positive. Based on that, your video is clearly not stolen at all. It's probably just being "sampled" as the music industry has done for years.

[Agent 488]

http://wifebucket.com/join.html

webmasters.

[homegrownmof]

Originally Posted by jewels

This video:
http://www.tube8.com/amateur/great-a...facial/230993/

We shot this scene for Home Grown Video. It is now posted on tube8.com and watermarked 'wifebucket.com' ????? Can someone explain this to me? Or is blatant theft just the norm this days??

*********** John? I'll have someone look into it asap- time to whack another mole!

wifebucket seems to be one of the most egregious infringers. but often you get the link "removed" only for it to show up again down the line...

What i still dont understand is how the US gov't can regulate broadcast TV, Cable, radio, etc yet the internet is wide open to minors for the most vile crap imaginable (not referring to the link posted- the excellence of that material is a given).

Pretty soon most kids will have 4G unfettered access to basically any kind of porn- no need to sneak onto mom and dad's computer...

- Moffitt

[Bman]

Thanks for the link watching now..ohh anal this looks like its gonna hurt!

[john-tym]

Yeah, its me. I was going to email you this link.

Just incredible - they even have the nerve to watermark it so that no one else can 'steal' it.

Very true about how open ended tube sites are - no credit card= no age verification.

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

*********** John? I'll have someone look into it asap- time to whack another mole!

wifebucket seems to be one of the most egregious infringers. but often you get the link "removed" only for it to show up again down the line...

What i still dont understand is how the US gov't can regulate broadcast TV, Cable, radio, etc yet the internet is wide open to minors for the most vile crap imaginable (not referring to the link posted- the excellence of that material is a given).

Pretty soon most kids will have 4G unfettered access to basically any kind of porn- no need to sneak onto mom and dad's computer...

- Moffitt

[CYF]

SeeMyBucks owns that.

Goes by the name Porko on gfy.

[Robocrop]

Welcome to the internetz

[homegrownmof]

Originally Posted by CYF

SeeMyBucks owns that.

Goes by the name Porko on gfy.

************* can someone email me some more info on this guy? quick search tells me what he does but I would like to find out where he is based.

*********** moffitt at homegrownvideo.com. thanks

[Agent 488]

i think he just travels the world now.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=940894

[crockett]

Originally Posted by jewels

Yeah, its me. I was going to email you this link.

Just incredible - they even have the nerve to watermark it so that no one else can 'steal' it.

Very true about how open ended tube sites are - no credit card= no age verification.

Actually its probably the "new" way to steal.. Water mark other peoples content then upload it to a tube site. Then hope you get type ins.. If caught deny everything claiming it was an fan.

[CamTraffic]

I can see Taylor's Bow embed videos in their webmaster area

[BIGTYMER]

Originally Posted by crockett

Actually its probably the "new" way to steal.. Water mark other peoples content then upload it to a tube site. Then hope you get type ins.. If caught deny everything claiming it was an fan.

Exactly.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

************* can someone email me some more info on this guy? quick search tells me what he does but I would like to find out where he is based.

*********** moffitt at homegrownvideo.com. thanks

That guy has been called out for shady shit several times and on many different boards.

ICQ: 221550099
[email protected]

[fris]

Originally Posted by CYF

SeeMyBucks owns that.

Goes by the name Porko on gfy.

hes the biggest thief, he even stole someone elses content and replaced the watermark with his own.

hes even have raven riley, kates playground, revenge bucks, among others in his members area.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by fris

hes the biggest thief, he even stole someone elses content and replaced the watermark with his own.

hes even have raven riley, kates playground, revenge bucks, among others in his members area.

Bump for this.

[Steve Awesome]

Shit, same thing happening to me:

My original video:
http://realdollsex.com/m4v/006/dmca-...-original.html

Fucks who stole it watermarked it:
http://www.xhamster.com/movies/68415..._sex_doll.html

http://wifebucket.com/ doesn't even have a goddamn DMCA page or contact details. Nice.

[Steve Awesome]

Bah, okay they have a page called "remove content" which flatly admits "hey, I'm gonna charge people for shit I don't even own." Real fucking nice. They went through a lot of trouble to hide the email address wifebucket[email protected] so whatever. Here it is. DMCA notice being fired off in 5... 4...

[Supz]

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

*********** John? I'll have someone look into it asap- time to whack another mole!

wifebucket seems to be one of the most egregious infringers. but often you get the link "removed" only for it to show up again down the line...

What i still dont understand is how the US gov't can regulate broadcast TV, Cable, radio, etc yet the internet is wide open to minors for the most vile crap imaginable (not referring to the link posted- the excellence of that material is a given).

Pretty soon most kids will have 4G unfettered access to basically any kind of porn- no need to sneak onto mom and dad's computer...

- Moffitt

They do have ways to filter content these days....oh wait. they always had that.

[notinmybackyard]

Originally Posted by homegrownmof

What i still dont understand is how the US gov't can regulate broadcast TV, Cable, radio, etc yet the internet is wide open to minors for the most vile crap imaginable

The answer to that is obvious.... The US gouvernement does not want to.

Just look at how absoultely fucking stupid have become in the last 10 years. The United States economy is shit... wars regularly popping up... banks robbing the public fund... etc etc etc.

The vast majority worry about Dancing with stars, waiting in line for a new Apple gadget and believe that Facebook is democracy.

Now ask yourself this..
If you were the gouverment, would you want to step in and mess up a good thing?

[AtlantisCash]

too bad sopa couldn't come in...

[Robbie]

From the bottom of the page at WifeBucket.Com

"wifebucket.com is a site of Gamma Entertainment and its subsidiary Chargepay BV "

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Robbie

From the bottom of the page at WifeBucket.Com

"wifebucket.com is a site of Gamma Entertainment and its subsidiary Chargepay BV "

Gamma? Say it ain't so! <sarcasm>

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by Robbie

From the bottom of the page at WifeBucket.Com

"wifebucket.com is a site of Gamma Entertainment and its subsidiary Chargepay BV "

The site is from SeeMyBucks.com - I don't see that they are part of Gammae - That bit at the bottom is odd.

[PGR]

Gamma bought seemygf?

[tfs]

Originally Posted by AaronM

It's on tube 8 and your concern is that somebody else stole it?

The internet in a nutshell.

[Far-L]

Anyone from Wifebucket reading this?

If so, let's work this out to our mutual advantage, been trying to get a hold of you, hit me up if you see this post

timlake at homegrownvideo dot com.

[Gator]

User uploaded it's not stealing.

A lot of people promote them it's funny almost no one in this thread knows who they are.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Anyone from Wifebucket reading this?

If so, let's work this out to our mutual advantage, been trying to get a hold of you, hit me up if you see this post

timlake at homegrownvideo dot com.

Ask the guys at Gamma. If you look at the site it clearly says at the bottom of the page that Gamma is running it.

Maybe they haven't gotten around to cleaning it up yet. But Gamma is taking over the running of several programs.

I saw that they had taken over Burning Angel as well for online. So I'm guessing that maybe they did the same thing with See My Bucks affiliate program.

I would think that you would be able to contact someone at Gamma and have them correct that.

[xXXtesy10]

Originally Posted by Supz

They do have ways to filter content these days....oh wait. they always had that.

Youtube and Facebook do it for free

[dgraves]

Welcome to the club! Get ready to be pissed off a lot.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Anyone from Wifebucket reading this?

If so, let's work this out to our mutual advantage, been trying to get a hold of you, hit me up if you see this post

timlake at homegrownvideo dot com.

What? Time to take action. Mutual whatever, they just stole from you hommie

[SomeCreep]

Yea, they steal a lot of shit. They would never admit to watermarking stolen content, but they do. And by the time the owner finds out theyve already profited by making lots of sales, so either way, mission accomplished.

[CamTraffic]

Chances are they bought the site recently and that clip was uploaded way back. I am sure they'll get it removed asap if you contact Somebody at Gammae. ( Joel or Stinger) I am surprised they bought that site knowing the amount of 'borrowed' content this site has...

Originally Posted by beaner

What? Time to take action. Mutual whatever, they just stole from you hommie

What?? nobody's suing nobody... Straight content producers don't do SHIT when it comes to take legal actions...

On the other Hand; Gay content producers will take you to Court in a heart Beat!

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by beaner

What? Time to take action. Mutual whatever, they just stole from you hommie

Ok, you're right guess I should just get on GFY and complain about them and threaten to have our expansive legal team, who we just LOVE LOVE LOVE paying for, go after them.

What will anyone get out of that besides our attorneys?

Time and time again I have learned that it is better to turn these issues around by making so called enemies into allies and doing some business that is mutually profitable.

In fact, that is exactly what is happening as of this post.

Time and time again everyone wants to run and grab the pitchforks and torches and ropes and run into the streets looking for a lynching. They should be using the pitchforks to bale some hay together, the rope to form bonds, and the torches to light the way to more opportunities. imho.

[Roald]

I think Gamma is just doing the processing for the site and is not owning it.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Time and time again I have learned that it is better to turn these issues around by making so called enemies into allies and doing some business that is mutually profitable.

That makes sense.

But at the same time, by doing that, aren't you encouraging people to steal your stuff and make money with it?
Knowing full well, that in the end they will be rewarded by you with even more money?

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That makes sense.

But at the same time, by doing that, aren't you encouraging people to steal your stuff and make money with it?
Knowing full well, that in the end they will be rewarded by you with even more money?

No Actually not. I am taking people that were making money off my stuff and working it out so I get what is due, correcting an issue that is hurting my brand, plus showing them that there is a more profitable path in working together going forward.

Sounds like doing business to me.

People tend to take this stuff so personally but at the end of the day, it is just business as usual.

[Gator]

It's not bad to let him use some videos if he's linking back.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Far-L

People tend to take this stuff so personally but at the end of the day, it is just business as usual.

Maybe you're right for your situation. For me it IS personal. I shoot my own stuff personally. I take all the risks personally. I put in all the hours editing and uploading to my site personally.

So yeah, when someone steals it and monetizes it...it is very personal for me and any people who actually work their own sites from top to bottom.

But I can see what you're saying.

What I was suggesting is this: By doing what you are doing...it tells me that I'm wasting time as an affiliate of homegrown. Instead of playing by the rules, I should just steal your stuff. Use it to draw traffic. Monetize it like crazy.

I will not face any penalties. But instead...I will be rewarded by having you contact me and set up a great new business deal between us.

I'm not picking on you specifically. I'm just pointing out what I think is the flaw in your line of thinking on this.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Maybe you're right for your situation. For me it IS personal. I shoot my own stuff personally. I take all the risks personally. I put in all the hours editing and uploading to my site personally.

So yeah, when someone steals it and monetizes it...it is very personal for me and any people who actually work their own sites from top to bottom.

But I can see what you're saying.

What I was suggesting is this: By doing what you are doing...it tells me that I'm wasting time as an affiliate of homegrown. Instead of playing by the rules, I should just steal your stuff. Use it to draw traffic. Monetize it like crazy.

I will not face any penalties. But instead...I will be rewarded by having you contact me and set up a great new business deal between us.

I'm not picking on you specifically. I'm just pointing out what I think is the flaw in your line of thinking on this.

Yeah, or you could, say, stuff cookies to try and get sales to other offers, or do any number of things even affiliates try to get away with that are outside our terms and conditions. This is an imperfect universe and we all have to live with the reality that people try and fuck other people over any way possible and the people that get fucked over the most are people that actually believe, like we believe, that there are good honest people to work with, not just the dishonest ones that have to be reconciled in the best way possible.

The point is, whether you are an affiliate or not, our first inclination in all problems regarding our brand will be to try and work it out first so everyone is happy. If that doesn't work, well, we are one of the very few companies that when we say we are lawyering up - then people tend to take us very seriously.

[dgraves]

If rape victims would just learn to relax during the attack then they could both enjoy the experience.

[lezinterracial]

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[topsiteking]

Originally Posted by dgraves

If rape victims would just learn to relax during the attack then they could both enjoy the experience.

Fucking sick.
Not a cool comment at all.

[SleazyDream]

Originally Posted by Steve Awesome

Shit, same thing happening to me:

My original video:
http://realdollsex.com/m4v/006/dmca-...-original.html

Fucks who stole it watermarked it:
http://www.xhamster.com/movies/68415..._sex_doll.html

http://wifebucket.com/ doesn't even have a goddamn DMCA page or contact details. Nice.

that's not a fan upload either, it's from wifebucket with a sponser link

[dgraves]

Originally Posted by topsiteking

Fucking sick.
Not a cool comment at all.

Exactly my point. Content producers are being raped and basically told to just relax.

How does this theft/collaboration thing work again?

They want to steal content, remove/cover watermarks to add their own so they can make as much money as they can until they get caught. Then, at that point we should work with the thieves so they can continue to make more money?

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by dgraves

Exactly my point. Content producers are being raped and basically told to just relax.

How does this theft/collaboration thing work again?

They want to steal content, remove/cover watermarks to add their own so they can make as much money as they can until they get caught. Then, at that point we should work with the thieves so they can continue to make more money?

It does sound fucking crazy

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Far-L

Yeah, or you could, say, stuff cookies to try and get sales to other offers, or do any number of things even affiliates try to get away with that are outside our terms and conditions.

I would think that stealing your content and re-watermarking it is a HUGE step over an affiliate stuffing cookies.

But if all that is working out great for you guys that is awesome.

I think it's doing a disservice to your brand and to your affiliates who are trying to make sales with your sites.

I even have a banner for Homegrown Video on the top of every video page in my members area. That's members area traffic. I have zero sales.

It's time to change that out I guess. But while I was putting you up in my members area and making goose eggs, thieves were simply stealing your content and getting rewarded with new business deals.

[Far-L]

Originally Posted by dgraves

If rape victims would just learn to relax during the attack then they could both enjoy the experience.

Are you honestly comparing trademark and copyright misuse to rape?

[Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Some good looking milfs on there.