Too Much Media Suspends Xclusive Cash NATS License

[TMM_John]

This is a notification that Too Much Media, makers of the NATS affiliate system, have been forced to temporarily suspend the NATS license belonging to N.R. Media, owners and operators of Xclusivecash.com

There was a discrepency between the number of rebills reported to the NATS system from the rebills reported by CCBill. upon attempting to rectify the situation with executives of N.R. Media Too Much Media was met with full resistance and profanity as well as an abruptly terminated phone call.

At which point N.R. Media agrees to fully repopulate the CCBill rebill data to represent the correct figures Too Much Media will reinstate the NATS license.

The suspension of the NATS license will not effect ongoing affiliate sales. It will only disable the adminstration area of NATS so that the program is rendered unusable until the situation is sorted out.

[wdsguy]

hmm interesting

[FreeHugeMovies]

LOL That's what they get for fucking Vegas and Angel out of ownership!

[pocketkangaroo]

Is this the professional way of saying Xclusivecash was shaving?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

?You hi jacked the guys program?

Allah Ackbar!

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

sig spot

[Shap]

This is a notification that Too Much Media, makers of the NATS affiliate system, have been forced to temporarily suspend the NATS license belonging to N.R. Media, owners and operators of Xclusivecash.com

There was a discrepency between the number of rebills reported to the NATS system from the rebills reported by CCBill. upon attempting to rectify the situation with executives of N.R. Media Too Much Media was met with full resistance and profanity as well as an abruptly terminated phone call.

At which point N.R. Media agrees to fully repopulate the CCBill rebill data to represent the correct figures Too Much Media will reinstate the NATS license.

The suspension of the NATS license will not effect ongoing affiliate sales. It will only disable the adminstration area of NATS so that the program is rendered unusable until the situation is sorted out.

NICE

[JD]

oooooooowned

[AbulletAway]

Can you say... Dooh!

[Tdog]

I say good work. Nice to know that NATS is watching the numbers.

[TDF]

wow......

[Dirty F]

Sig spot.

[Lycanthrope]

Interesting

[BoyAlley]

Is this the professional way of saying Xclusivecash was shaving?

That's the impression that I got...........

[TMM_John]

I just spoke with Chris and Jason and they are speaking with CCBill to verify the occurrence and severity of the discrepancy and we will be speaking with them again shortly.

There will not be any additional comments from us until we speak with them again.

[teomaxxx]

sig spot, although i dont have even sig, but thats what surfers on GFY teach me

[pocketkangaroo]

So far I've gathered this:

1) Too Much Media catches XClusiveCash shaving.

2) XClusiveCash gets pissed they found out and tells them to fuck off.

3) Too Much Media suspends license.

4) XClusiveCash sees suspended license and says "Oh shit, we better get our shit in order".

[JFK]

I just spoke with Chris and Jason and they are speaking with CCBill to verify the occurrence and severity of the discrepancy and we will be speaking with them again shortly.

There will not be any additional comments from us until we speak with them again.

Very Professional statement

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

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it needed to be done

[MediumPimpin]

Didn't they just team up with Falcon Video Productions?

[SplitInfinity]

Either way, seems to me like bad business to post that sort of thing publicy on the boards..... Not sure if I am missing something, but in the real business world, those things are contractual breaches and are dealt with by attorneys....

By posting that sort of info, im sure Too Much Media may have violated any confidentiality they had in the contract regardless if the other party was wrong or not...

Not sure if I would like Nats people playing judge, jury and verdict and then posting about it before it is resolved entirely.

Am I wrong or?
Shaving IS wrong...
Im not defending the other party, just speaking in generalities...

[Chris]

Either way, seems to me like bad business to post that sort of thing publicy on the boards..... Not sure if I am missing something, but in the real business world, those things are contractual breaches and are dealt with by attorneys....

By posting that sort of info, im sure Too Much Media may have violated any confidentiality they had in the contract regardless if the other party was wrong or not...

Not sure if I would like Nats people playing judge, jury and verdict and then posting about it before it is resolved entirely.

Am I wrong or?
Shaving IS wrong...
Im not defending the other party, just speaking in generalities...

i dont use nats or have I ever read the agreement you make with nats when setting up the system
but at the launch of it i do kinda remember something being said that if you are caught shaving using there system it will be a public announcmeent

[SplitInfinity]

"but at the launch of it i do kinda remember something being said that if you are caught shaving using there system it will be a public announcmeent"

Wow... if thats true... then all I can say is 0wn3d.

[pradaboy]

i dont use nats or have I ever read the agreement you make with nats when setting up the system
but at the launch of it i do kinda remember something being said that if you are caught shaving using there system it will be a public announcmeent

yup, remember the same

[chupachups]

jesus H christ is all I can say lol

[JD]

so TMM has access to their CCBill stats?

note to self: don't use nats for my program

I don't know about you all, but letting some 3rd party company have access to my CCBill admin would bother me greatly.

[Digipimp]

so if they were cheating and didnt try to handle it nicely when you brought it up, why not just permanently suspend them. fuck allowing them to use it again, kill that program since they handled it so poorly when it was brought up.

[Matiz]

Good job!

[almighty]

damn it man

sig spot

[TMM_John]

so TMM has access to their CCBill stats?

note to self: don't use nats for my program

I don't know about you all, but letting some 3rd party company have access to my CCBill admin would bother me greatly.

Don't be so quick to make assumptions.

We did not access the CCBill admin. It was brought to our attention by someone that there was a lot of talk of something going on and we logged into the NATS admin to take a look at the CCBill polling data. The number of rebills was completely out of proportion to other time periods and the number of sales. This caused us to contact N.R. media and the above followed.

[fastfun]

so TMM has access to their CCBill stats?

note to self: don't use nats for my program

I don't know about you all, but letting some 3rd party company have access to my CCBill admin would bother me greatly.

Dont worry, you will never be in a situation were you have to worry about that. Stick to your blogs - I heard its the future.

[JD]

Dont worry, you will never be in a situation were you have to worry about that. Stick to your blogs - I heard its the future.

I do a lot more than blogs dickface

[BoyAlley]

Don't be so quick to make assumptions.

We did not access the CCBill admin. It was brought to our attention by someone that there was a lot of talk of something going on and we logged into the NATS admin to take a look at the CCBill polling data. The number of rebills was completely out of proportion to other time periods and the number of sales. This caused us to contact N.R. media and the above followed.

So you didn't have the actual data then, just noticed a statistical anomaly based on historical trends??

[Theo]

John made a careful statement

[JD]

Don't be so quick to make assumptions.

We did not access the CCBill admin. It was brought to our attention by someone that there was a lot of talk of something going on and we logged into the NATS admin to take a look at the CCBill polling data. The number of rebills was completely out of proportion to other time periods and the number of sales. This caused us to contact N.R. media and the above followed.

goooooooooootcha. ok. note to self deleted

[Shoehorn!]

I say good work. Nice to know that NATS is watching the numbers.

I agree.

[DamageX]

So far I've gathered this:

1) Too Much Media catches XClusiveCash shaving.

2) XClusiveCash gets pissed they found out and tells them to fuck off.

3) Too Much Media suspends license.

4) XClusiveCash sees suspended license and says "Oh shit, we better get our shit in order".

I'd say it's a pretty accurate description of the situation at hand, from an outsider's point of view.

[XxXotic]

[gregtx]

nevermind..

[justsexxx]

Sig spot.

NO SHIT YOU ARE BACK YEAHHHHH

[TheSenator]

Damage control.... Is CCBill acting screwy or just a glitch?

[mailman]

[mailman]

*note this is a shock and sucks ass since I promote them... wonder how much if any I have lost! I cant wait to see this unfold, shit like this really fucks the industry!

[Mutt]

which is it? was there a problem that NATS had getting correct rebill stats from CCBILL into NATS and when the program was alerted that NATS detected the problem they essentially said 'screw the affiliates, we didn't cause this, we're not telling the affiliates anything' OR............. did XclusiveCash jerryrig their install of NATS to shave rebills?

[BradM]

Is this the professional way of saying Xclusivecash was shaving?

Yes, sure is.

[BoyAlley]

which is it? was there a problem that NATS had getting correct rebill stats from CCBILL into NATS and when the program was alerted that NATS detected the problem they essentially said 'screw the affiliates, we didn't cause this, we're not telling the affiliates anything' OR............. did XclusiveCash jerryrig their install of NATS to shave rebills?

OR

Did NATS contact XclusiveCash and say "hey we're seeing some funky numbers", they felt like they were being accused of wrongdoing when they didn't do anything intentional (perhaps there were problems pulling data from ccbill they weren't aware of?), and told NATS to fuck off, then NATS shuts them down and posts this?

I don't know anyone from XclusiveCash, so I don't know what type of people they are.

But as a program owner that's considering moving to NATS, seeing them shut a program down, hold it hostage, and make public statements like this makes me VERY nervous.

I hope NATS is 100% sure shady shit was going on before they did this.

[Juilan]

pulling up a seat right here

[Big John]

But as a program owner that's considering moving to NATS, seeing them shut a program down, hold it hostage, and make public statements like this makes me VERY nervous.

But by the same token as an affiliate it would give you a lot of confidence and as good affiliates are hard to get anything that helps...

[pocketkangaroo]

I highly doubt this thread would be started without some assurances that they were shaving. No way NATS puts their reputation on the line like this in a public forum over an assumption. As an affiliate though, I'm glad that NATS does watch out for foul play.

[ChrisExtreme]

So what you're saying is that NATS is not shave proof?