Zorgman called me a scammer.... lmao

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Well, thats not it. To install TEVS you need the license ID. So your clients needs to login and send you those details anyway, why not send you the file too?

Also, from what I read in that thread you posted. He's not hired you YET. He was asking you to contact me regarding TEVS.

Did you read my last post..?


I do not want to install tevs... I want the god dang template files.... It seems though your template files do not exsist and your script must be a cluster fuck of code thown together.... Prolly start out open source...









As far as being hired... lmao, I never take a job unless I know for sure I can get it done.... I do not run one of these companies you read about... (Takes down payments and comes back a month later and says I can not do the job)

















Fuck it Zorgy, I gave you a last chance... You fucked that up.... I am sure Farkedup will be happy to take over where you are leaving off!

[cess]

[HorseShit]

sig spotten

[Quagmire]

Thread summed up:

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[CaptainHowdy]

Thread summed up:

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[Click Obey]

Jon, why didnt you just log into the TEVs client area and download the script? Your client could have given you that info. You wouldn't have to install tevs to gain access to the files needed to make a new template and you could then have them on hand if needed for future clients.

[Kudles]

This is dumb!

[Klen]

Something smells here

[TubeSubmitters]

This seems like a good thread to look for a tube designer for a site running TEVS, anyone out there? A real designer, not the OP moron...

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Jon, why didnt you just log into the TEVs client area and download the script? Your client could have given you that info. You wouldn't have to install tevs to gain access to the files needed to make a new template and you could then have them on hand if needed for future clients.

Seems simple huh.... Previously I did not know you could do that.... It would have been just as easy for Zorg to give me the files.... Correct?

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

This thread worked out great.. I was contacted by two script owners, both more then ready to help me better serve there clients design needs...

[Tjeezers]

This thread was more a SHOW HOW BIG OF A COCK I HAVE

One, if you uberhaupt had a client, he would be able to show you a account where he has his TEVS installed, it is easy to copy the HTML files from there, rename them to Index2, menu2, etc etc and build a mirror on his website where you could experiment with the code. I did it on this way and do not need a ego master like the Jesus crisse John clark.

What zorg said was pretty fair.

You finally have your first client, and rush to GFY and make a drama thread.
You fail in my eyes big time cause you have not the creativity to work on this. You did not need anyone to do what your client needs. You could have done it all on his server if you client had a TEVS installed.
But you lack in experience, and you have to much keyboard warrior hormones in your " i have no clue who you are " ass.....

Seriously, people trusting you? Those people make huge mistakes
You already go flatface in this thread, your experience is zero, and your mouth is 3 sizes to big. You started this thread to piss off someone, and you started this thread for self commercial. Looser in my book.

I have 3 TEVS licensies running, and did all the design and moderation of the code on the server while TEVS was running by making a mirror as described above. Index2, Menu2, and making a config2.php file etc etc

God Fucking Crissss. your a amateur. I can do all your clients in 1 day, and make them more then happy.
You irritated me with this thread.

[sortie]

Fucking drama queen. I really lost all my respect for you (not that I had any but okay).

[Snap3]

.. who fucking cares?

[Snap3]

This thread was more a SHOW HOW BIG OF A COCK I HAVE

One, if you uberhaupt had a client, he would be able to show you a account where he has his TEVS installed, it is easy to copy the HTML files from there, rename them to Index2, menu2, etc etc and build a mirror on his website where you could experiment with the code. I did it on this way and do not need a ego master like the Jesus crisse John clark.

What zorg said was pretty fair.

You finally have your first client, and rush to GFY and make a drama thread.
You fail in my eyes big time cause you have not the creativity to work on this. You did not need anyone to do what your client needs. You could have done it all on his server if you client had a TEVS installed.
But you lack in experience, and you have to much keyboard warrior hormones in your " i have no clue who you are " ass.....

Seriously, people trusting you? Those people make huge mistakes
You already go flatface in this thread, your experience is zero, and your mouth is 3 sizes to big. You started this thread to piss off someone, and you started this thread for self commercial. Looser in my book.

I have 3 TEVS licensies running, and did all the design and moderation of the code on the server while TEVS was running by making a mirror as described above. Index2, Menu2, and making a config2.php file etc etc

God Fucking Crissss. your a amateur. I can do all your clients in 1 day, and make them more then happy.
You irritated me with this thread.

Best post in this thread!

[sandman!]

designers are a dime a dozen i can find 10 good designers on my icq list right now.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I do not understand this thread whats so ever.

[PrivateEye]

Zorgman is 100% solid and always available to clients ;-)

What do you get out of posting icq logs ? make you feel important ?

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

This thread was more a SHOW HOW BIG OF A COCK I HAVE

One, if you uberhaupt had a client, he would be able to show you a account where he has his TEVS installed, it is easy to copy the HTML files from there, rename them to Index2, menu2, etc etc and build a mirror on his website where you could experiment with the code. I did it on this way and do not need a ego master like the Jesus crisse John clark.

What zorg said was pretty fair.

You finally have your first client, and rush to GFY and make a drama thread.
You fail in my eyes big time cause you have not the creativity to work on this. You did not need anyone to do what your client needs. You could have done it all on his server if you client had a TEVS installed.
But you lack in experience, and you have to much keyboard warrior hormones in your " i have no clue who you are " ass.....

Seriously, people trusting you? Those people make huge mistakes
You already go flatface in this thread, your experience is zero, and your mouth is 3 sizes to big. You started this thread to piss off someone, and you started this thread for self commercial. Looser in my book.

I have 3 TEVS licensies running, and did all the design and moderation of the code on the server while TEVS was running by making a mirror as described above. Index2, Menu2, and making a config2.php file etc etc

God Fucking Crissss. your a amateur. I can do all your clients in 1 day, and make them more then happy.
You irritated me with this thread.

lmao at you putting effort into posting in this thread...

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Zorgman is 100% solid and always available to clients ;-)

I am sure he is...,

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I do not understand this thread whats so ever.

Neither do I....


I like the way he has his clients in here to defend him...

Rule number one in board dramas.... Never hide behind your clients!













lmao at everyone saying you could have this and that.... Zorg could have came off the files...

[Deej]

John - STFU

What kind of shit is this?

"Do you know who the fuck I am?"

no a lot of people dont... why... because in this sea you are no one - just like me

at least they know my name and face though - a ton of people hear john clark and think to themselves "what the fuck is that fool doing now?" "what is he saying about himself to look self important today?"

swear to god - Ive had conversations at shows about you - more negative than positive.

Thank the one guy that talked any sense of good about you... BTW - is he still around? been wondering what hes up to.

this is a piss poor pissing match - youre not even done with this conversation and youre posting - and posting in big red letters to others.

Why do you use GFY as your bullhorn? Get the fuck off the box!

[bashbug]

your designs are pretty pathetic, I wouldn't take them if they were free.

[teenfeetcash]

lol this thread is progressing to a Jon Clark self ownage lesson!

You go girl

Zorgman and TEVS R O C K S !!!!!!!!!

[Common Sense]

wow. so jon clark is mad because a guy wont hand over parts of his paid script for a guy who isnt even a client of his. zorgmans job is to sell a script, not make sure every half ass designer in the world gets a free copy. he is simply protecting his product and his livelihood as any good software developer would.

let this also be a lesson for those who choose to work with jon clark. any small issue and he takes it to the boards. he is more interested in page views than being a business guy. work with him and you deserve what you get.

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Why do you use GFY as your bullhorn? Get the fuck off the box!

You answer the question everytime you post....!


Fucking predictable Puppets and I am the Fucking Master!


















































You said yourself... You talk about me at fucking shows......

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Half of you can't even spell my name right....

[Deej]

You answer the question everytime you post....!


Fucking predictable Puppets and I am the Fucking Master!




You said yourself... You talk about me at fucking shows......

say puppet all you want - youre blowing hot air...

i think you are your own puppet - of demise...

and if you heard the conversations about you (like many other weirdos such as LC for instance) you wouldnt be so proud...

just because you may be a momentary subject of topic liek many other trivial conversations... dosnt mean youre a point of interest...

blah blah blah

BTW - still havent answered my serious question... are your helping hands still with you?

[HorseShit]

this thread ended a while ago when I said his designs sucks dick

[Deej]

Half of you can't even spell my name right....

more proof of the lack of giving a shit...

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

BTW - still havent answered my serious question... are your helping hands still with you?

Helping hands..? I never had any....


As for the team.. The same people are playing...

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

and if you heard the conversations about you (like many other weirdos such as LC for instance) you wouldnt be so proud...

lmao, you are trying to compare me to LC...?

[lazycash]

Sad part is both of you could have given each other a lot of business had you been able to rationally communicate without the name calling and immaturity.

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Sad part is both of you could have given each other a lot of business had you been able to rationally communicate without the name calling and immaturity.

Finally... Somone who sees it the way it is.... Like I posted above!


Zorg and I are both idiots...!

[Zorgman]

Well, im not the idiot here. As I have "clients". You seem to have a lack of them.

[globofun]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

WTF guys?

Jon asked to have access to my server, and that's against my personnal rules.......

So, I told him that he maybe could get in touch with Zorgman to see if he could get access to the script. (I believed it would not have been an issue)

This thread turned into a real major circus.......... for not much!

I used to stay away from GFY when I was a newbie, because I hated drama........ I've been working all my life trying to solve problems........ I would not want to have to deal with drama again in this secondary career.......

I'm pretty clueless in regard to scripts, web design and many more things........ I just didn't knew I could just send the files to Jon....I believed it would have been better for him to ask Zorgman.......my wrong?

Jon, it was not a secret to who I was in the first place.............

NOW WHAT?

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez!

WTF guys?

Jon asked to have access to my server, and that's against my personnal rules.......

So, I told him that he maybe could get in touch with Zorgman to see if he could get access to the script. (I believed it would not have been an issue)

This thread turned into a real major circus.......... for not much!

I used to stay away from GFY when I was a newbie, because I hated drama........ I've been working all my life trying to solve problems........ I would not want to have to deal with drama again in this secondary career.......

I'm pretty clueless in regard to scripts, web design and many more things........ I just didn't knew I could just send the files to Jon....I believed it would have been better for him to ask Zorgman.......my wrong?

Jon, it was not a secret to who I was in the first place.............

NOW WHAT?

I don't know.... Zorgman is no help...

[CDSmith]

FAKE DRAMA!...

Everyone in this thread actually loves everyone else in this thread.

Group hug.

Feel the love.


Thank you, and goodnight.

[Zorgman]

I think the best option is for you to send Jon the file if you wanted his services.
Of couse he can't install it unless it's on your domain already and you have already said you don't allow that.

Personal after this thread I would do business with Jon, but that's just me.

I sell the script, what you do after purchasing the software is up to you.

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I think the best option is for you to send Jon the file if you wanted his services.
Of couse he can't install it unless it's on your domain already and you have already said you don't allow that.

Personal after this thread I would do business with Jon, but that's just me.

I sell the script, what you do after purchasing the software is up to you.

You have been giving several chances to make things right here....



Hours later I tried again to be civil with you,

JonClark (7:18 PM):
How was business today...? It should have rocked! Anyway, I would like to skin your script for clients seriously and would like to work with you in the course of doing so...
This contact is offline.
The message will be delivered when the contact goes Online.
JonClark (7:19 PM):
Let me know if you would like to do some business..onClark (7:18 PM):
How was business today...? It should have rocked! Anyway, I would like to skin your script for clients seriously and would like to work with you in the course of doing so...
This contact is offline.
The message will be delivered when the contact goes Online.
JonClark (7:19 PM):
Let me know if you would like to do some business..

















WTF is with you Zorgy? Seriously!

[Zuzana Designs]

Thread summed up:

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LOLZ ...

[Zorgman]

WTF is with you Zorgy? Seriously!

1. I blocked you after you created this thread. I will not get another icq message from you. That's why i don't reply to your pointless msgs.

2. You a dick head.

3. I don't like you.

4. Your NOT my client. Your my clients - client. And therefor have nothing to do with me.

[CDSmith]

I think the best option is for you to send Jon the file if you wanted his services.
Of couse he can't install it unless it's on your domain already and you have already said you don't allow that.

Personal after this thread I would do business with Jon, but that's just me.

I sell the script, what you do after purchasing the software is up to you.

You know in the time it took you to read this thread, return to this thread 7 more times after your first post to read the new posts and type out your replies, you could have just decided to be helpful and sent Jon the files, and saved yourself what amounts to a lot of wasted time, useless posturing and empty namecalling that basically makes you look like someone to avoid doing business with.

I'm just saying.


Jon's actually a pretty good guy to work with.

[»Rob Content«]

To me anyone who would openly post ICQ logs with such ease is risky. It's kind of an "unwritten" rule in adult that what is said is ICQ is meant to stay there. It's the same as copy and pasting what someone says in e mail, you just don't do it.

I'd never openly speak with someone on ICQ that would post logs with ease as I see it to be a liability.

[.:R I O:.]

Jon is a fucking waster of interweb.

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

To me anyone who would openly post ICQ logs with such ease is risky. It's kind of an "unwritten" rule in adult that what is said is ICQ is meant to stay there. It's the same as copy and pasting what someone says in e mail, you just don't do it.

I'd never openly speak with someone on ICQ that would post logs with ease as I see it to be a liability.

You have posted logs on the boards before... Don't try it..



Rob, you are just like candyflip, two faced...

[d-null]

Half of you can't even spell my name right....

what do you have against nubiles script???

[GrouchyAdmin]

Ya know,

Giving away stock templates isn't really that big of a deal; it's not like your giving away proprietary information unless you've done something really stupid like overcoding in the display logic. I'd have to say, Zorg, that although Jon is an annoying asshole, you come off as a bit of an ass for not just giving him a zip of the templates. If you don't/didn't want to, you should have just said so.

[»Rob Content«]

You have posted logs on the boards before... Don't try it..



Rob, you are just like candyflip, two faced...

I'm not two faced.

Sorry brother..

And you were out of line posting these.

And, Zorg has every right to tell a designer no when asking for files when they have zero verification that there is an actual client at all.

You mention scammers and etc, and he was protecting his business.

What's wrong with that?

[Barefootsies]