If we're going to appoint someone to be the fucking morality police for the industry:

[BusterBunny]

50 drama points

[will76]

Anyone who have a laissez-faire stand towards zango and the zango-jugends must be either too rich to care, idiots, or don't have traffic.

definetly not #1 for Jimmie. #2 and #3 are him, especially #3.

[llporter]

give em hell will

[TrafficHog]

Morals?

I don't give a fuck about morals and I doubt any adult webmaster really do. It's about the money, and these zango supporting scumbags are COSTING ME MONEY. Anyone who deals in major traffic are LOSING MONEY because of zango. That's a fact.

That's why I'm pissed off and aim to financially hurt anyone supporting this shit.

Anyone who have a laissez-faire stand towards zango and the zango-jugends must be either too rich to care, idiots, or don't have traffic.

Troels,
Since you are so upset about this subject you must have an idea of how much Zango is stealing from you. This amount must be enough to make you really upset given your post. Can you tell me how much Zango is stealing from you?

I hear from word of mouth and from real tests that Zango is 0.005% of the US Internet. Now given that Zango does not pop on EVERY single bidded target if the client has already had a pop recently(I don't know exactly how it works but I know they won't pop every single time you hit a target thats bidded on as a fact. They try not to over do it). So that should break down that 0.005%(half a percent for the slow) to a smaller amount. Then, given the fact that surfers are aware of and mostly have experienced popups, we would assume a majority of the surfers would close this window. So this 0.005% really get's dropped down somewhere in the 0.00011% of your traffic.

Ok to sum it up your traffic must be soooo huge that somewhere around 0.00011% of your traffic is enough to get so upset about. If I were you and this was upsetting me as much as it's upsetting you I would make sure my hosting provider has 100% uptime. Otherwise, I would be so upset I would be posting on boards and bitching like crazy. Because 0.0015% of your hosting being down at anytime during the month is costing you MORE money than Zango. Infact, by you even taking an interest and following this subject, you yourself are costing you more money then this problem, that is has been so over exagerated, by taking time away from producing just enough money to cover 0.0015% more money for yourself. I am not attacking you. Just trying to show you the real truth. Not the propaganda.

[TrafficHog]

Morals?
I don't give a fuck about morals and I doubt any adult webmaster really do. It's about the money, and these zango supporting scumbags are COSTING ME MONEY.

Dude..... This whole paragraph contradicts yourself. "I don't give a fuck about morals" Are the Zango scumbags immorrally costing you money?
I mean it's legal... But the morality of it's on the table here. But you state again "I don't give a fuck about morals". So what's your stance here?

[will76]

Dude..... This whole paragraph contradicts yourself. "I don't give a fuck about morals" Are the Zango scumbags immorrally costing you money?
I mean it's legal... But the morality of it's on the table here. But you state again "I don't give a fuck about morals". So what's your stance here?

please put the fake nick away. damn you pop up like once a month, kinda like pms.

it is so pointless to argue with a fake nick.

[TrafficHog]

please put the fake nick away. damn you pop up like once a month, kinda like pms.

it is so pointless to argue with a fake nick.

Hard to find a way to argue with reason isn't it?

[TrafficHog]

please put the fake nick away. damn you pop up like once a month, kinda like pms.

it is so pointless to argue with a fake nick.

OMG! I just saw the link on your sig!!!
your true motives are exposed!! Your ambushed interviewed yourself!!!
Will76's own made up questions and answers for his own ambush interview. How hillarious!

Trying to get some attention huh?
LOL

[WiredGuy]

Did will give up on Zango or is this in addition to it?
WG

[TrafficHog]

please put the fake nick away. damn you pop up like once a month, kinda like pms.

it is so pointless to argue with a fake nick.

God damn! And I couldn't immagine for the life of me you sticking dildoes in your ass on Ifriends for gay guys to jerk off to you and having to live with your wife and kids.

How did you get started: long story. Was surfing the net and came across ifriends and set up a webcam, started making money right away. Did that for about 6 months.

How did you entice the guys to do private one on one? Did you promise them you would stick your fingers in your ass? What did you do when you were in One on One? What did you do Will? Do you regret it? Was it morally wrong to your family to do this?

Let me ask you a serious question? Will you ever tell your wife you did gay porn? Will you ever tell your kids you got paid to have guys jerk off while you gave them pleasure? This is something I could not do or live with because it would be against my morals. You are talking about morals here with Zango and all.... Hillarious... You have a family yet you got your start by getting guys off. This is just nuts to me. Literally!! to your ex customers....

started making money right away. Did that for about 6 months.

Would you have done this if you didn't get paid good money to get guys off? If not, does that mean your moral judgement was persuaded by money? Wow!! This opens a HUGE can of worms here!!

[tony286]

if you're in this business then morals are not something held dear to the heart IMHO.

morals + adult = no mix.


two cents.


whats up jimmy?

you really feel that way? Morals include honesty , not stealing and you think they dont fit hmmmmmm

[TrafficHog]

you really feel that way? Morals include honesty , not stealing and you think they dont fit hmmmmmm

The availability of it to minors and the exploitation of women who might later regret it right there would count for less morals than a computer salesman. I don't know about a lawyer though ;)

[Carrie]

And more importantly: Why the fuck do you think I give a rats ass what you think about ANYTHING?

Hrmm... because you keep focusing your attention on him and even went so far as to make an entire thread about him?

But just guessing.

[will76]

Did will give up on Zango or is this in addition to it?
WG

LOL i bet it would make your day if i gave up on Zango, and I am sure all of your buddies would be happy to.

[will76]

God damn! And I couldn't immagine for the life of me you sticking dildoes in your ass on Ifriends for gay guys to jerk off to you and having to live with your wife and kids.



How did you entice the guys to do private one on one? Did you promise them you would stick your fingers in your ass? What did you do when you were in One on One? What did you do Will? Do you regret it? Was it morally wrong to your family to do this?

Let me ask you a serious question? Will you ever tell your wife you did gay porn? Will you ever tell your kids you got paid to have guys jerk off while you gave them pleasure? This is something I could not do or live with because it would be against my morals. You are talking about morals here with Zango and all.... Hillarious... You have a family yet you got your start by getting guys off. This is just nuts to me. Literally!! to your ex customers....



Would you have done this if you didn't get paid good money to get guys off? If not, does that mean your moral judgement was persuaded by money? Wow!! This opens a HUGE can of worms here!!

I am still thinking you are either DH or Lars, but that is just a shot in the dark.

I think it is funny that someone compares "morals" to not stealing from someone else (using zango) to "morals" of being a camhost. Not sure what one thing has to do with other but i think the stealing is worse then getting on cam though and i think 99.9% of the people here would agree with me on that.

I am not going to argue with you since you are fake nick and I can't win but it sounds like you must have paid to see one of my shows since you think you know what I did on camera

[TrafficHog]

Hrmm... because you keep focusing your attention on him and even went so far as to make an entire thread about him?

But just guessing.

The threads point was he was annoyed by him. Not about what he has to say but the fact that he is saying the same thing everyday about the same subject and not doing a damn thing about it. It seems he is trying to get popularity through annoyancy.

[will76]

Hrmm... because you keep focusing your attention on him and even went so far as to make an entire thread about him?

But just guessing.

this is true..

[TrafficHog]

I am still thinking you are either DH or Lars, but that is just a shot in the dark.

I think it is funny that someone compares "morals" to not stealing from someone else (using zango) to "morals" of being a camhost. Not sure what one thing has to do with other but i think the stealing is worse then getting on cam though and i think 99.9% of the people here would agree with me on that.

I am not going to argue with you since you are fake nick and I can't win but it sounds like you must have paid to see one of my shows since you think you know what I did on camera

Here, let me point something out to you....
TrafficHog history

Those first posts were way before you thought you could get people's attention by bitching about a something you will later take on as your only way you think you can gain popularity or respect(which is not happening by the way). Do any of the posts sound like some of the aformentioned names?

Yes, I think morals go across all areas and values in life. You did something that breaks a moral value of a straight guy. Are you straight? Something you might want to tell us? Or maybe your family? You can't pick and choose which morals are ok and which aren't. If you are a moral person you follow all the right paths or ways in a moral way. You don't say "I won't steal from someone, but I will kill someone with my gun if they look at me wrong". You can't differentiate one morality from the other. People who are true moral people will act moral in EVERY decision. NOT just the ones they pick and choose.

Oh, and by the way, using words like

of being a camhost.

That's like calling a Janitor a "waiste technician"
You were gay porn content. Content is concidered the lowest of the food chain in this industry. You weren't just content. You were gay content and you are a straight guy or not. You, according to any straight guy I have ever met, have thrown away your morals of being a straight guy to make a fast buck!. You might as well be on the street corner sucker cock illegally as a gay male prostitute. But that's not morally wrong to you???

[TrafficHog]

but it sounds like you must have paid to see one of my shows since you think you know what I did on camera

Will, I was only speculating. Did you actually, really stick dildoes up your ass? Man...... The length you go to make a quick buck is unreal to me. My moral standards would not let me degrade myself for quick money. I just can't believe no one has hit on this subject this whole time you think you are on your high horse with morality. This whole time you have had a battery operated anal tickler playing with your ass while on your high horse. What feels better to you? Gallup? Trot? Canter? Or do you prefer the BUCK!!?

[WiredGuy]

LOL i bet it would make your day if i gave up on Zango, and I am sure all of your buddies would be happy to.

I really couldn't care what happens with Zango.
WG

[will76]

Will, I was only speculating. Did you actually, really stick dildoes up your ass? Man...... The length you go to make a quick buck is unreal to me. My moral standards would not let me degrade myself for quick money. I just can't believe no one has hit on this subject this whole time you think you are on your high horse with morality. This whole time you have had a battery operated anal tickler playing with your ass while on your high horse. What feels better to you? Gallup? Trot? Canter? Or do you prefer the BUCK!!?

Yeah you made like 3 posts a year ago then have made 75 posts about zango in the last couple months. You are definetly someone's fake nick.

since you seem to be so curious (possibly to fantasize about it ?) I neved used props of any kind. Getting naked and touching myself was more then enough to bring in top dollar

Sorry to let you down, i know you were hoping for a long detailed story of ass play so you could pleasure yourself to it later but, it didn't happen.

carryon now fake nick, see you next month for comic relief.

[Carrie]

TrafficHog you're taking this too far, and what you've said reflects just what you think of the people you're promoting. If it weren't for them, your sites would be all text. No pretty girls to entice the surfer to sign up. Might want to give the "content" folks a little more respect.

As for Will being a camhost for 6 months, you have no idea what he did. He could have simply taken off his shirt for desperate housewives or jerked off for horny college girls. Again, you're taking it too far. And what does it matter, anyway? He did what he had to do to pay the bills. In my book, that's being responsible. He didn't break any laws, he didn't hurt anyone in any way (physically, emotionally, financially, politically, mentally, etc).

Either argue with the man's logic or let it drop... the stuff you've said in the last few posts is just classic high-school immature drivel.

[TrafficHog]

TrafficHog you're taking this too far, and what you've said reflects just what you think of the people you're promoting. If it weren't for them, your sites would be all text. No pretty girls to entice the surfer to sign up. Might want to give the "content" folks a little more respect.
.

Your right about this. My intent was to show Will what he did for money and not as a women would but something a normal straight guy would never do. Thus, breaking normal standing straight guy morals.

As for Will being a camhost for 6 months, you have no idea what he did. He could have simply taken off his shirt for desperate housewives or jerked off for horny college girls.
.

He insuated I watched his shows because I said he used dildoes. Now he is admitting to playing with himself. AND.... Come on now!!! It wasn't horny college girls!!!!!!!!!!!!! You really think horney college girls join to pay good money to see a guy wack off????? It's gay guys. Ask him. He will admit it!!

Again, you're taking it too far. And what does it matter, anyway? He did what he had to do to pay the bills.
.

So doing what it takes to pay the bills is ok as long as it's LEGAL right? Let me readress that fact that advertising with Zango is 100% LEGAL!!

Either argue with the man's logic or let it drop... the stuff you've said in the last few posts is just classic high-school immature drivel.

In highschool I learned this sentence is called an oxymoron

Either argue with the man's logic or let it drop...

The man has no logic.

[will76]

In my book, that's being responsible. He didn't break any laws, he didn't hurt anyone in any way (physically, emotionally, financially, politically, mentally, etc).
.

i could have promoted spyware and made a lot more money but I don't want to steal from people.

You can't reason with people like this. He is using a fake nick and he is getting off on causing shit and acting like a 10 year old. He is here to cause trouble not try to debate anything. It is a shame that some people are pussies and have to hide behind fake nicks.

[TrafficHog]

Yeah you made like 3 posts a year ago then have made 75 posts about zango in the last couple months. You are definetly someone's fake nick.

Ok. So you ruled out I am not DH or Lars. You now have to actually respond to my comments instead of trying to twist it that I am someone else and you don't have to answer because it's pointless.

since you seem to be so curious (possibly to fantasize about it ?) I neved used props of any kind. Getting naked and touching myself was more then enough to bring in top dollar
.

You must be real proud being such an enticing gay peformer. Never ever had to use a prop. Just your fingers... And how many times did you cum for a guy? Was it hard not picturing a guy at the other end jerking his meat watching you and typing gay comments to you or was this second nature? Since you have a wife and kids do you still have these gay tendencies or was that just something that you did for money and not something you would ever do unless money was on the table. If so, that just goes to show you sold out your morals for money. The people with intelligence that read your threads laugh. The sheep or less informed think you might be on to something. I wish those sheep knew your past history with gay porn and how this isn't really what you would do but you only did it because

Getting naked and touching myself was more then enough to bring in top dollar
.

Is that the same thought that might be pushing Adware companies forward? Do you think they would be doing what they do for free? Would you do gay porn for free? No, you sold out and were pursueded by money. So what is different here? I don't understand how you think one morality is 100% different than another.

Do you know how many poeple(powerful people) want to take down porn because they don't it's moral? But wait a minute it's legal..... But because some or a lot of people think it's immoral we should just shut it down right? What are your thoughts on that Wil? I really want to know....

[TrafficHog]

It is a shame that some people are pussies and have to hide behind fake nicks.

Please post your picture for all of us to see since you are not a pussy and don't mind revealing your true identity.

Oh, and if you do . Would you have plans to go to any future Adult Internet shows?

[will76]

Ok. So you ruled out I am not DH or Lars. You now have to actually respond to my comments instead of trying to twist it that I am someone else and you don't have to answer because it's pointless.


You must be real proud being such an enticing gay peformer. Never ever had to use a prop. Just your fingers... And how many times did you cum for a guy? Was it hard not picturing a guy at the other end jerking his meat watching you and typing gay comments to you or was this second nature? Since you have a wife and kids do you still have these gay tendencies or was that just something that you did for money and not something you would ever do unless money was on the table. If so, that just goes to show you sold out your morals for money. The people with intelligence that read your threads laugh. The sheep or less informed think you might be on to something. I wish those sheep knew your past history with gay porn and how this isn't really what you would do but you only did it because



Is that the same thought that might be pushing Adware companies forward? Do you think they would be doing what they do for free? Would you do gay porn for free? No, you sold out and were pursueded by money. So what is different here? I don't understand how you think one morality is 100% different than another.

Do you know how many poeple(powerful people) want to take down porn because they don't it's moral? But wait a minute it's legal..... But because some or a lot of people think it's immoral we should just shut it down right? What are your thoughts on that Wil? I really want to know....

you have too much time on your hands. Do you really think it bothers me what you are saying about the cam stuff ? Seriously, think about it. I am the one who mentioned it. If it bothered me what I did back in 99 for 6 months then I would have never mentioned it in the first place. I know you sitting there thinking, I am going to get this muther fucker yet, i am going to try to make him feel like shit, but you just make yourself (well your fake nick) look more and more like a moron. Not only does it not bother me what I did, but I don't care what other people think, muchless do I care what someone's alter ego, fake nick is posting.

So carry on. I am sure my reply here will get 2 or 3 more posts out of you.

----- sorry please continue, where did we leave off, butt plugs ? -----

[TrafficHog]

i could have promoted spyware and made a lot more money but I don't want to steal from people.

You mean you could have tried to get people to promote spyware for you and you could have made a few bucks as a referral since you lack any skills of making your own money. But then again I don't think you are smart enought for that. Let me ask you how many people did you help with creatives for mailing? I know you worked with mailers..... Now, this was legal in 2004. But was it MORAL???

[will76]

Please post your picture for all of us to see since you are not a pussy and don't mind revealing your true identity.

Oh, and if you do . Would you have plans to go to any future Adult Internet shows?

Ok fake nick is calling me out now

Dude try posting with your real name, and then I will show you my pic.

I am starting to really think you are obsessed. First you want me to tell you details of gay stuff and now you want my picture. Fucking free loaders, why don't i just turn my cam on and you pay me for a show already, seems to be where you are heading and what you want.

I've been to a few shows and i will go to more in the future.

[will76]

I know you worked with mailers..... Now, this was legal in 2004. But was it MORAL???

please provide proof.

[will76]

He is this you by any chance : http://www.spywaredb.com/remove-traffichog/

[Juicy D. Links]

[will76]

You getting in line for the cam show ?

[Juicy D. Links]

You getting in line for the cam show ?

[TrafficHog]

you have too much time on your hands.

I have to much time on my hands????????? According to you I show up once a month and everytime I do all I see if your attention getting threads. Who has too much time on their hands? Wow, that statement really backfired on you didn't it. Probably too late for you to edit

Do you really think it bothers me what you are saying about the cam stuff ? Seriously, think about it. I am the one who mentioned it. If it bothered me what I did back in 99 for 6 months then I would have never mentioned it in the first place.

Yes, i know it bothers you. I know you brought it up cause it would come out anyways and that was your tactic. Would it bother you if I had I a copy of you jerking off typing gay shit to guys? Would it bother you that you are recorded in history as getting gay guys off by jerking off and typing gay comments to men? I think is does and I think it would bother your kids. Do you have any boys btw? That would be embarassing. Wow! Having to explain to your son that you would never normally do this ... BUT.... it was because of the

Getting naked and touching myself was more then enough to bring in top dollar

is this what you want to teach your kids? That doing something you would normally not do is ok only if you

bring in top dollar

----- sorry please continue, where did we leave off, butt plugs ? -----

Yes!! Butt plugs!! That was the word I was looking for. Not anal ticklers. Silly me with not keeping up with the gay toys these day.

[TrafficHog]

please provide proof.

Because dipshit,
I was one of them....

[TrafficHog]

He is this you by any chance : http://www.spywaredb.com/remove-traffichog/

Never owned it. However, I have used it before. Infact, Clickcash has received lots of hits from me through various adware sources a long time ago.

[will76]

Never owned it. However, I have used it before. Infact, Clickcash has received lots of hits from me through various adware sources a long time ago.

Brian, why don't you share your clickcash account with us

[TrafficHog]

Brian, why don't you share your clickcash account with us

Look it up if you think you know who I am.

[will76]

Look it up if you think you know who I am.

did i get it right ?

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=...5#post11524915

[will76]

Brian, where did you go?

[jimthefiend]

I really couldn't care what happens with Zango.
WG

Amen to that.

[Troels]

Troels,
Since you are so upset about this subject you must have an idea of how much Zango is stealing from you. This amount must be enough to make you really upset given your post. Can you tell me how much Zango is stealing from you?

I hear from word of mouth and from real tests that Zango is 0.005% of the US Internet. Now given that Zango does not pop on EVERY single bidded target if the client has already had a pop recently(I don't know exactly how it works but I know they won't pop every single time you hit a target thats bidded on as a fact. They try not to over do it). So that should break down that 0.005%(half a percent for the slow) to a smaller amount. Then, given the fact that surfers are aware of and mostly have experienced popups, we would assume a majority of the surfers would close this window. So this 0.005% really get's dropped down somewhere in the 0.00011% of your traffic.

Ok to sum it up your traffic must be soooo huge that somewhere around 0.00011% of your traffic is enough to get so upset about. If I were you and this was upsetting me as much as it's upsetting you I would make sure my hosting provider has 100% uptime. Otherwise, I would be so upset I would be posting on boards and bitching like crazy. Because 0.0015% of your hosting being down at anytime during the month is costing you MORE money than Zango. Infact, by you even taking an interest and following this subject, you yourself are costing you more money then this problem, that is has been so over exagerated, by taking time away from producing just enough money to cover 0.0015% more money for yourself. I am not attacking you. Just trying to show you the real truth. Not the propaganda.

First of all. I see you are Brian Muir, the same guy if I recall that had the BLATANT CHEATER LIST on ynot back in the day. Remember?
Try and think back and ask yourself what you would classify zango and zango promoters as if they were around back then...

The number of daily zango installs I hear is an outrageous number. It's too big a number for me not to care, and zango are certainly big enough for AFF to keep supporting them. Certainly big enough for FTC to give a damn, and thereby certainly big enough for me to worry considering the 75mill+ sponsor hits we have sent this year.

If they weren't big AFF wouldn't have to "protect" (ahem) their terms from sexsearch.

Call me stubborn, call me grumpy, I don't care. Anyone supporting zango is a target for me and I will move signups around just to influence decisions that could cost either zango, aff or sexsearch money, because their actions ARE costing ME money.

[BigDeanEvans]

Brian, where did you go?

certainly not posting in this thread

[will76]

Here, let me point something out to you....
TrafficHog history

Those first posts were way before you thought you could get people's attention by bitching about a something you will later take on as your only way you think you can gain popularity or respect(which is not happening by the way). Do any of the posts sound like some of the aformentioned names?

Actually Brian your first posts on here were under the name " Muir". Now that I know who you are I will respond to some of your bullshit.

Yes, I think morals go across all areas and values in life. You did something that breaks a moral value of a straight guy. Are you straight? Something you might want to tell us? Or maybe your family? You can't pick and choose which morals are ok and which aren't. If you are a moral person you follow all the right paths or ways in a moral way. You don't say "I won't steal from someone, but I will kill someone with my gun if they look at me wrong". You can't differentiate one morality from the other. People who are true moral people will act moral in EVERY decision. NOT just the ones they pick and choose.

LOL i never said I was a moral person. I said I wouldn't steal from people using spyware. I don't see how not stealing from people = being a moral person. I know i am not a moral person.

But speaking of morals. Do you think someone who spams people is doing something moral?

Oh, and by the way, using words like [ cam host ]

That's like calling a Janitor a "waiste technician"
You were gay porn content. Content is concidered the lowest of the food chain in this industry. You weren't just content. You were gay content and you are a straight guy or not. You, according to any straight guy I have ever met, have thrown away your morals of being a straight guy to make a fast buck!. You might as well be on the street corner sucker cock illegally as a gay male prostitute. But that's not morally wrong to you???

I never had morals inregards to being on cam and having guys watch me. I don't see that breaking morals, if it does break morals, then i did. either way i don't give a shit. So basically you are trying to say I can't bitch about people stealing my sales and traffic because i broke some straight guy morals by getting on webcam and some guys wathced me. Do you believe this shit, you fucking nuts. Did you go to jail by the way. I wonder if people's straight morals change when they are in jail.

Ok fair enough about the camhost coment, you can call me gay (SOLO) porn content, but I don't want to hear you calling yourself a email sending specialist. You were a spammer.

[will76]

Amen to that.

So lavish cash doesn't care about the zango situation.

nice to know jimmie. you score points with potential affiliates all the time. it is amazing you aren't beating them away with a stick.