I need a NEW Host!

[TurboAngel]

I mean come on I don't have any downtime, WTF? Don't we all need downtime?



























LMAO! You KNOW I'm happy as HELL at NatNet! Have a great April Fools.

[onedree]

I am absolutely thrilled with Phatservers.

[TurboAngel]

I am absolutely thrilled with Phatservers.

I hear ya!

[Nicky]

I am absolutely thrilled with Phatservers.

[HomerSimpson]

I am absolutely thrilled with Phatservers.

they do not provide cPanel so they're OUT!

[AliGbone]

Bump for the winners! Downtimes included?

One time when me was high, me sold me car for like 24 chicken McNuggets!

[AaronM]

I mean come on I don't have any downtime, WTF? Don't we all need downtime?

Try Webair for that.

[Rochard]

I love the National Net.

[VladS]

Here's one for CyberWurx.

[2intense]

they do not provide cPanel so they're OUT!

[seeandsee]

Cyberwurx is my temple!

[fatfoo]

We don't need downtime.

[TurboAngel]

I love the National Net.

I know you do!

[BVF]

Try Webair for that.

I haven't noticed...Maybe I'm just a lucky negro.

[Bladewire]

I am absolutely thrilled with Phatservers.

Same here. Chris & Wes kick ass

[TurboAngel]

I haven't noticed...Maybe I'm just a lucky negro.

You are as you have been to my house!

[Machete_]

Whatever you do, don't go with Webair

worst. experince. ever.



NatNet is very solid.

[webair]

Try Webair for that.

Webair hosting was fine for you until for the past 6 years while it was free cheapskate, your just pissed cause i booted you from my network in response to how you spoke to Bari @ moniker. Tough guy ripping on a woman. Maybe that will teach you a lesson on how to speak to people =) Yea yea tell us now how we lost your're content on a free server 4 years ago cause you were too cheap to pay for backups. You have an issue with me or webair you can come discuss it with me in person, I would like that =)

worst content provider ever...

Whatever you do, don't go with Webair

worst. experince. ever.



NatNet is very solid.

useless troll your days are numbered..

[Tom_PM]

I need a new hostess..


mm nom nom

[Machete_]

useless troll your days are numbered..

Truth hurts, huh?

Do a search for "webair" here. There are 50 pages of search results on this board, claiming: "webair sucks" "webair down", etc.

[webair]

Truth hurts, huh?

Do a search for "webair" here. There are 50 pages of search results on this board, claiming: "webair sucks" "webair down", etc.

99.999% of them are 5.95 virtual accounts. Look at the all of the posts, there are many more favorable than not. Which is more than i can say for you. Have you ever hosted with us? You have not I personally looked into it. So until you do stop with your useless comments man everyone if sick of your meaningless bs. AND THAT'S THE REAL TRUTH.

[TrashyGirl]

Server Complete

I have one friend who is hosting her sites at Server Complete and is really happy so far, she left another hosting company (who shall go nameless but not shameless). I'm going to throw a few of my sites there.

http://www.servercomplete.com/

They also have remote back-up plans

http://www.servercomplete.com/backup

[Machete_]

99.999% of them are 5.95 virtual accounts. Look at the all of the posts, there are many more favorable than not. Which is more than i can say for you. Have you ever hosted with us? You have not I personally looked into it. So until you do stop with your useless comments man everyone if sick of your meaningless bs. AND THAT'S THE REAL TRUTH.

I tried to host with you. You couldn't even get the server off the ground.

So all those people saying that your support don't know what they are doing, are 100% spot on.

Your hosting is based on HYPE only.

[webair]

I tried to host with you. You couldn't even get the server off the ground.

So all those people saying that your support don't know what they are doing, are 100% spot on.

Your hosting is based on HYPE only.

Yes i know we have only been in business for 15 years based on hype. What are some of your accomplishments, besides bumping threads and trolling gfy 24/7? LOL

Loser...

[pristine]

webair sucks hardcore.

[hdkiller]

hostplex.net + emuadmins = dedicated heaven

[Machete_]

Yes i know we have only been in business for 15 years based on hype. What are some of your accomplishments, besides bumping threads and trolling gfy 24/7? LOL

Loser...

If by "business" you mean sucking and being constantly down, then I agree with you.

[webair]

log in and read each one to see how they panned out. It's how you deal with your client issues that defines a company. Keep going at me maybe you will actually learn something. When you host hundreds of thousands of sites you are bound to have a few issues =)

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4971/image6d.gif - why dont you host it on your server?

[AaronM]

Webair hosting was fine for you until for the past 6 years while it was free cheapskate, your just pissed cause i booted you from my network in response to how you spoke to Bari @ moniker. Tough guy ripping on a woman. Maybe that will teach you a lesson on how to speak to people =) Yea yea tell us now how we lost your're content on a free server 4 years ago cause you were too cheap to pay for backups. You have an issue with me or webair you can come discuss it with me in person, I would like that =)

worst content provider ever...



useless troll your days are numbered..

First off, you have never purchased or received content or any other service from me. For you to make a comment about me being the worst content provider ever..Well...That just goes to show that you have NOTHING legit to say about me. And you call me a troll?

Now, lets address the hosting issue shall we?

YOU approached me several years ago and offered me free hosting with Webair in exchange for my support of Webair on the boards. I turned you down because I didn't need another box. A few months later you again approached me with the offer. I declined again. The 3rd time you pestered me about whoring your name out, I said OK and I transferred some sites to you that I had just purchased and were inactive.

At that time I added you to my GFY sig and started showing support for you on and off the forum. THEN you lost an entire members directory of exclusive content and custom scripting. For that reason, and THAT REASON ONLY, you were removed from my sig and I stopped supporting Webair. Your solution to this was to offer me access to some feeds even though you knew the site was not live. (Wow, how cool of you to offer something you knew would not be used!) I never publicly discussed that you had lost all that content and scripting. Why not? Because it was a free box and my stopping supporting you was enough. I also discontinued using that box for each site except for a single web page that was the front end to my 2257 data which obviously I host elsewhere.

At no point did you ever mention not having a backup with the server you offered. If you want to offer your service to people for free, in order to gain positive feedback, you still need to provide decent service which you failed to do. In fact, you should provide those people exceptional service to make sure they are happy. Making sure their stuff is backed up would save you from this type of situation. To call me a cheapskate after you continuously begged me to take your free server shows once again what your character is really all about.

I became the most unhappy with you a couple of weeks ago when you showed your true colors on ICQ. Not that you wanted the box back, but that you wanted it back because I had hurt Bari's feelings and I was not telling people about my "great experiences" with Webair...Because there were none...Not one...Ever. You want me to lie and unlike you, I won't do that.

And you can stop with your ICQ threats too. Grow the fuck up, act like a man, and realize that you, just like Bari, are responsible for your own fuck ups.


To recap:

1: Webair begged me 3 times to take their free server in exchange for me telling people about my good experiences with them.

2: Webair lost 10's of thousand of dollars worth of exclusive content and scripting when the service they provided failed and they did not have a backup in place.

3: I then stopped supporting Webair and left only the front end to my 2257 website hosted their. (I didn't trust them with the data itself) Perhaps Webair would have preferred if I took everything off the server and made it well known why?

4: The owner of Webair then gets his panties in a wad because I won't lie about his shitty service and I attacked a friend of his for not doing her job.

5: The owner of Webair is now sending me threats on ICQ.


At the end of the day, this thread is about Nat Net. A company who, although I have never hosted with or promoted, has gone out of their way to be be nice to me as well as their competitors. I know a number of people who host with Nat Net and have not heard any horror stories like what I have personally experienced and heard from multiple others who used the previously mentioned service.

[AaronM]

99.999% of them are 5.95 virtual accounts. Look at the all of the posts, there are many more favorable than not. Which is more than i can say for you. Have you ever hosted with us? You have not I personally looked into it. So until you do stop with your useless comments man everyone if sick of your meaningless bs. AND THAT'S THE REAL TRUTH.

This from a guy who just posted that I am the worst content provider ever but has never done any content business with me.

Fucking hypocrite. This thread is perfect for April Fools because it shows everybody what a joke you are.

[webair]

This from a guy who just posted that I am the worst content provider ever but has never done any content business with me.

Fucking hypocrite. This thread is perfect for April Fools because it shows everybody what a joke you are.

I've never purchased content from you cause it suck aaron. Sorry man I'm just being honest with you. Im not a fan never have been.

[AaronM]

I've never purchased content from you cause it suck aaron. Sorry man I'm just being honest with you. Im not a fan never have been.

Guess that's why I never purchased hosting from you either....You suck. The difference is that I still experienced your service, or lack of, while you have never experienced mine...Yet you trash talk it.

Nothing about you is honest.

[pristine]

wow, webair is very unprofessional. to be expected I guess.

[SuzzyQ]

So until you do stop with your useless comments man everyone if sick of your meaningless bs. AND THAT'S THE REAL TRUTH.

I couldn't agree more

[webair]

Guess that's why I never purchased hosting from you either.

Nothing about you is honest.

I'm all about honesty. I gave you a server due to the fact that we met at a show several years back and thought you were an ok guy. I thought to myself, why not! Maybe we will end up doing some good business together. Seven years later, with not so much as a thank you from you, and constantly seeing you berating good people on this board for no apparent reason, is the only reason i changed my mind.

When you were begging me last week to give you a week to move, was i not gracious enough to let you have it?

Let's talk about your lost data. I gave you a server for free, you made an error and your data was lost, as you are by far NOT a server admin. I told you then and i'll tell you now, always backup your server! I'm sorry you were careless and did not opt to purchase backups (even know the server was free), If you felt so strongly about it, and didn't think we were a good host, then why did you continue to use the server for another 5 years? I'm sorry aaron you were wrong then, and you are wrong now.

With regards to your content. When i ran my own sites back in the day, I had contacted you for content. You sent me some examples, and we just decided it was not up to par with the type of sites we wanted to promote. Basically, it was amateur at best. Than's my opinion and im entitled to it.

As for you becoming unhappy with me? I could care less man. You insulted my friend, and a supporter of this board for no reason. Even if you had a reason you didn't have to attack get verbally and abusively. It was completely uncalled for. I thought you were a good guy until i saw that. Real tough guy picking on a woman, you should be proud of yourself!

To recap:

1: Aaron had a free server for 7 years and never once did he complain about the service until now.

2: The reason he is complaining due to the fact that I asked him to leave because he is abusive to women on this board, and i called him out for it.

3: Aaronn is too cheap to backup his server even though he got the main service for free. Not a professional move IMHO.

4: Aaron has shitty amateur content IMHO.

5: Aaron is upset because he is no longer getting a free server =(

5: Aaron needs to choose his battles better, and not bully women around.

[AaronM]

wow, webair is very unprofessional. to be expected I guess.

You can say that again:

Session Start (130823758:Webair Mike): Fri Mar 11 12:19:10 2011
[12:19] Webair Mike: there?
[12:33] AaronM: Already a step ahead of you. Please give me until Tuesday to make sure things are set up correctly and working right with my database.
[12:35] Webair Mike: tues it is....
[12:35] Webair Mike: NO LATER
[12:36] AaronM: Wow.

Any particular reason you are being rude to me?
[12:39] Webair Mike: yea i figured after 6 years of hosting you for free and getting nothing in return its time to close it up, aside form that i think it was your asinine bash against my friend bari a couple months back set me off..hais what is is man no love lost
[12:39] Webair Mike: *from
[12:41] AaronM: I'll tell you what.

Add up what I owe you for the 6 years of service on a server that was barely used. I'll get the exact total from the members area full of exclusive content and programming you lost and I'll apply your total as a credit and bill you for the balance.

Sound fair?
[12:42] AaronM: As for Bari, hey...we all have idiot friends.
[12:43] Webair Mike: exclusive content and programming? i dont need content or programming... This conversation is over just get off you have till tuesday...
[12:43] AaronM: Oh, and the "nothing" for it is horseshit. I have give you plenty of support and positive things over the years.

Don't forget, you pratically begged me to take a server from you.
[12:44] Webair Mike: yea i begged now im begging you to get off ..
[12:44] AaronM: HELLO?

YOU LOST MY ENTIRE MEMBERS DIRECTORY!!!
[12:45] Webair Mike: you should have enabled backups! it was free you could have paid for backups at least! like we always say backup backup backup
[12:46] Webair Mike: its a click away on the cp
[12:48] AaronM: LOL, Funny how you were so sorry and offered to provide me feeds for the site when it happened and now you are blaming me.
[12:49] Webair Mike: kinda like you blaming me for a bad drive? who doesnt back up their shit? dont be silly
[12:49] Webair Mike: on a free server none the less
[12:49] Webair Mike: show me one positive post you made...
[12:49] AaronM: Which is why I have never publicly mentioned it.

Want to keep going with this?
[12:50] Webair Mike: are you threatening me to go public with this? DO YOU WANT TO GO FURTHER??
[12:50] AaronM: You said you were done with the conversation but you keep on going. I asked you a simple question.
[12:51] Webair Mike: whats the question? I was done b4 but YOU SEEM to want to continue
[12:51] AaronM: And you seem to like being rude to me.
[12:51] Webair Mike: Kinda like you are to everyone else?
[12:52] Webair Mike: dont like it aye?
[12:52] AaronM: When they deserve it, yes.
[12:52] Webair Mike: bari didnt deserve it
[12:52] AaronM: Bullshit
[12:52] AaronM: As badly as she fucks things up, she deserves more.
Session Close (Webair Mike): Fri Mar 11 13:12:12 2011


Session Start (130823758:Webair Mike): Fri Apr 01 13:08:25 2011
[13:08] Webair Mike: hey fat ass you have an issue? cause you and i can certainly handle it in person
[13:39] AaronM: Gonna go ahead and block you here now. Thanks for playing.

[webair]

Yep thats pretty much it verbatim =) The only thing you left out was how you started posting negatively about Webair today. After I graciously hosted you free for 7 years, & gave you time to move your content from my network.

Lesson to be learned:

Don't be abusive to women for no apparent reason and you will have more friends!

-----

Porno pete- you are entitled to your opinion.

I don't think my emotions were mixed.I kind of feel like I did something out of the kindness of my heart for him. He did something to be mean and spiteful to a friend. I decided i didn't want to be associated with him. I am entitled to that decision.

In a nutshell.

[AaronM]

I'm all about honesty. I gave you a server due to the fact that we met at a show several years back and thought you were an ok guy. I thought to myself, why not! Maybe we will end up doing some good business together. Seven years later, with not so much as a thank you from you, and constantly seeing you berating good people on this board for no apparent reason, is the only reason i changed my mind.

When you were begging me last week to give you a week to move, was i not gracious enough to let you have it?

Let's talk about your lost data. I gave you a server for free, you made an error and your data was lost, as you are by far NOT a server admin. I told you then and i'll tell you now, always backup your server! I'm sorry you were careless and did not opt to purchase backups (even know the server was free), If you felt so strongly about it, and didn't think we were a good host, then why did you continue to use the server for another 5 years? I'm sorry aaron you were wrong then, and you are wrong now.

With regards to your content. When i ran my own sites back in the day, I had contacted you for content. You sent me some examples, and we just decided it was not up to par with the type of sites we wanted to promote. Basically, it was amateur at best. Than's my opinion and im entitled to it.

As for you becoming unhappy with me? I could care less man. You insulted my friend, and a supporter of this board for no reason. Even if you had a reason you didn't have to attack get verbally and abusively. It was completely uncalled for. I thought you were a good guy until i saw that. Real tough guy picking on a woman, you should be proud of yourself!

To recap:

1: Aaron had a free server for 7 years and never once did he complain about the service until now.

2: The reason he is complaining due to the fact that I asked him to leave because he is abusive to women on this board, and i called him out for it.

3: Aaronn is too cheap to backup his server even though he got the main service for free. Not a professional move IMHO.

4: Aaron has shitty amateur content IMHO.

5: Aaron is upset because he is no longer getting a free server =(

Lies, lies, and more lies.

Start off with the part where you say I begged you for to give me a week to move thing. Refer to the ICQ log I posted. We chatted on FRIDAY March 11th and I said I would be off your box by MONDAY March 14th. No begging.

Everything you say is skewed in one way or another or completely fabricated.

I'm done discussing this with you. I've posted what happened and you've posted lies then responded with more of the same.

I'll cheerfully express my opinions about both you and Webair any and every chance I get. Had you acted like an adult instead of a punk, I would continue to let your incompetence slide. Unfortunately, you have made a different decision and now I no longer feel the need to hold back the truth.

Cheers.

[AaronM]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I have to say your attitude is quite unprofessional in this thread.

1, so what you are saying is he kept up his end of the bargain until you dissolved the agreement.

2, you mixed your personal shit in with business. Unprofessional.

3, whether you begged him to take a server or he begged you, or whatever the case you both had an agreement. Also your statement is unprofessional.

4, Your statement is just spiteful, and to be honest I haven't seen many complaints here about his work or content, you on the other hand....

5, could be. could also be that he has no reason to lie anymore.

You are coming out looking like a complete douche here.

I'd like to clarify point #5. I never lied in the the first place. I supported Webair until I had a bad experience. I then stopped that support. Never lied about it, just didn't discuss it since I wasn't asked.

[AaronM]

I'd also like to point out that over the years I have been abusive to a number of people on this forum. Male or female has nothing to do with it. Either I feel you deserve what I post or I don't.

[CYF]

To recap:

1: Webair begged me 3 times to take their free server in exchange for me telling people about my good experiences with them.

That explains the "webair rocks!" threads on gfy


But really, he has a point... who doesn't back up their shit? I set up a couple of cron jobs and my databases and data all get backed up automatically.

[AaronM]

Yep thats pretty much it verbatim =) The only thing you left out was how you started posting negatively about Webair today. After I graciously hosted you free for 7 years, & gave you time to move your content from my network.

Lesson to be learned:

Don't be abusive to women for no apparent reason and you will have more friends!

Congrats on graciously losing my data and then continuing to host a single web page that only I and my programmer occasionally accessed for several years. Must have cost you a fortune in lost bandwidth.


No apparent reason huh? LOL riiiight.

Who the hell needs friends like you?

[Oracle Porn]

I have been hosting some of my sites with webair for a few years, I only have good things to say about them and about Mike, and I love the yearly greeting cards he keeps sending every year....

On the other hand I've been on GFY for more then a few years, and since day 1 AaronM has been a prick.

Just my 2 cents.

[webair]

Aaron,

Then we agree to disagree, I'm sorry you took it so personally, but you should watch the way you speak to people. It was completely out of line, unprofessional, abusive, and uncalled for IMHO. It only served to cost you money in the long run.

Karma I guess..

Good luck!

[Barefootsies]

This looks like it's going to be a long popcorn thread.

[AaronM]

That explains the "webair rocks!" threads on gfy


But really, he has a point... who doesn't back up their shit? I set up a couple of cron jobs and my databases and data all get backed up automatically.

Yes, he does have a good point.

However....Every hosting company I host with has provided me with a backups and I was told that they were providing that as well. After the fact, he tells me I had to go in and turn it on.

Why did I not have it backed up? Again, I purchased the sites and they were inactive. Webair knew this and they transferred the sites from the old host. Since I was told there was a backup, that was good enough for me. Clearly I learned from that mistake. I never had the data myself and I put the sites on his box where they sat until development could be finished. Unfortunately, all was lost before that happened.

[webair]

What do you mean your emotions where not mixed. You are clearly saying you are cutting his hosting because he said something disagreeable about your friend. Not only that you waited 6 months for your balls to descend until you decided to take action on it.

Correction:

I cut his FREE hosting.

I think the word "disagreeable" does not quite fit in this situation. I'll look for the post, but he basically attacked a highly respected professional person in the industry, not to mention a close friend of mine. I do not condone "bullying women". If he had an issue with their services, thats one thing, but to personally attack and abuse someone is not called for.

I simply decided to cut my ties with him. It must have really hurt his feeling for him to have to take it public.

Fitty hurt feelings.

[AaronM]

Aaron,

Then we agree to disagree, I'm sorry you took it so personally, but you should watch the way you speak to people. It was completely out of line, unprofessional, abusive, and uncalled for IMHO. It only served to cost you money in the long run.

Karma I guess..

Good luck!

What a clown. I've taken nothing personally other than your threats.

[webair]

What a clown. I've taken nothing personally other than your threats.

Ha you're one to talk about threats? You threaten women? Now someone your own size picks on you and it's called threatening?

Let's face it, you brought this public due to the fact that i decided not to host you for free. No other reason...

Instead of attacking me, you should be thanking me for the 7 years of FREE service i gave you IMHO

[AaronM]

Try Webair for that.

All this drama because I posted that...In an April Fools thread of all places...

Tell me again who's feelings got hurt.