Dream Submitter or Chameleon?

[Thicky Dix]

Which one should I use? Does DS do anything with partner accounts? Is the Chameleon partner account requester good, worth $399?

Thanks

[loverboy]

Chameleon



http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=Chameleon
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=Chameleon
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=Chameleon
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ight=Chameleon

[Mighty Chin]

Amazing another fucking DS vs Chameleon thread. I guess the search isn't working again here.



For the record DS is by far superior. Chameleon is still in the dark ages.

[WarChild]

Chameleon isn't even in the same league as Dream Submitter.

All the serious submitters use Dream Submitter.

[Dirty F]

Do a search, Its been asked a zillion times. And im not sure what ds can do what cs cant. I use cs and it does everything i need. I dont see what i could need more for submitting.

[Dirty F]

Chameleon isn't even in the same league as Dream Submitter.

All the serious submitters use Dream Submitter.

Mabye you can answer it. What can ds do what cs cant?

[WarChild]

Mabye you can answer it. What can ds do what cs cant?

Objection. Asked and Answered.

Sustained.

Use the search.

[Mighty Chin]

Warchild is funny. Hows that bald head doing down in Costa Rica man?

[WarChild]

Warchild is funny. Hows that bald head doing down in Costa Rica man?

'sall good man. You and Huey and the rest of the gang should come on down .. I'll make you famous.

[djroof]

Chameleon for me !!!

[Mighty Chin]

'sall good man. You and Huey and the rest of the gang should come on down .. I'll make you famous.

Stunt Cocks? Or the real deal?

[Huggles]

Dream submitter all the way!

[AmateurFlix]

dreamsubmitter is far superior to chameleon, although chameleon doesn't require much setup

[Dirty F]

Ok, someone tell me why ds is better. Ive seen many of these threads but never got this answered really.

[Nifield]

Dreamsubmitter by far:

I spoke to someone that moved from chameleon to dreamsubmitter today and here was their reasons:

USER (10:55 AM) :
hmm
USER (10:55 AM) :
its easier to add sites
USER (10:55 AM) :
you can do sites on auto with paraphrases
USER (10:56 AM) :
germes sites can be auto with the timers
USER (10:56 AM) :
give me a minute
USER (10:56 AM) :
those are the big ones for sure
USER (10:56 AM) :
you can do category recips
USER (10:56 AM) :
scheduled submissions
USER (10:56 AM) :
you can generate beforehand
USER (10:57 AM) :
very very few sites have to be on manual
Nifield (10:58 AM) :
ok great thanks, germes im assuming is a tgp script?
USER (10:58 AM) :
yeah like hanks
USER (10:58 AM) :
lots of sites use it
Nifield (10:58 AM) :
ok great thanks
USER (10:58 AM) :
most of the cscripts you can trick with the timer
Nifield (11:02 AM) :
chamelon you can't do auto submits with passphrases?
USER (11:02 AM) :
no its a pain in the ass
USER (11:02 AM) :
95% of the sites in their database manuals are paraphrase
USER (11:03 AM) :
the only sites I havne't been able to put on auto in ds is two step sites
Nifield (11:03 AM) :
loool thats rediculous
USER (11:03 AM) :
I know!
USER (11:03 AM) :
chameloen doens't load the pages in ie in auto
USER (11:04 AM) :
so it doens't load the paraphrase image unless its manual
USER (11:04 AM) :
there is another really bad thing in chameloan that alot of people don't realized
USER (11:04 AM) :
realize
Nifield (11:04 AM) :
whats that?
USER (11:04 AM) :
after you do the autos there is a report tab that has submission sucessful, not etc
USER (11:05 AM) :
its wrong!
Nifield (11:05 AM) :
oh? how so
USER (11:05 AM) :
they have fucked it up there are sites marked as sucessful that never go thru
Nifield (11:05 AM) :
ah, so our error checking system and confirmation system is much better then?
USER (11:06 AM) :
yeah
USER (11:06 AM) :
ohh another thing
USER (11:06 AM) :
they have a history on each site
USER (11:06 AM) :
when you generate if you start at a different time you miss a whole bunch of your sites
Nifield (11:07 AM) :
i dont quite understand that
USER (11:07 AM) :
so if a site if 1 a day and you start an hour earlier it won't generate
USER (11:07 AM) :
and the only way around that is to open the database and delte the history
USER (11:07 AM) :
and the average person cna't even do that since they password protected the database
Nifield (11:07 AM) :
oh i see, so if your generating 10 galleries all at once for the day, some sites wont be generated due to timers
USER (11:08 AM) :
yeah its kinda a timer
USER (11:08 AM) :
like my bangthumbs alot wouldn't show up
USER (11:08 AM) :
cause its 1 a day
USER (11:08 AM) :
so if I generate even a hour early
Nifield (11:08 AM) :
ah, so you cant open the database in access like ours for advanced users?
USER (11:08 AM) :
nope
Nifield (11:09 AM) :
ok thanks a lot. you've helped out a lot
User (11:10 AM) :
yeah I guess not alot of people try all the different submitters like I did

So now you have it, reasons why dreamsubmitter is better than chameleon straight from the mouth of someone that has used both and picks dreamsubmitter.

Here are some other threads i found:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ream+submitter
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ream+submitter
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ream+submitter

Also i don't believe chameleon has a $2.95 trial for a full version of their software for 1 month.

I also don't believe Chameleon offers 1 on 1 walkthroughs of their software for users that don't understand it, Dreamsubmitter does.

And as said in many other threads, dreamsubmitter has much more customization, is much more accurate, and is much more efficient than chameleon.

I've always said if you want to do something, take advice from people that are where you want to be, not people that are giving advice just for the sake of giving advice.

So if you want to be a gallery submitter making $10,000 a month, take the advice from the guys that are making that kind of money doing galleries, and i know for a fact, that the majority of the guys making that kind of money are using dreamsubmitter.

hope this helps!

[Babagirls]

CHAMELEON SUBMITTER

CHAMELEON SUBMITTER TUTORIAL

[lamrobertson]

Definitely Dreamsubmitter

[onno]

The best way is go with Dream submitter, you cant be wrong with it

[Nifield]

bump for midnight viewers

[Speed_Demon]

Just a question:

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Nifield (11:07 AM) :
oh i see, so if your generating 10 galleries all at once for the day, some sites wont be generated due to timers
USER (11:08 AM) :
yeah its kinda a timer
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You mean 10 galleries for 10 different domains?

[Titan]

Dream Submitter is the pimp of submitters. Dream submitter is the official submitter of all Traffic Titan sites (over 1.5 million visitors daily).

[Royce]

My dream is make a lot of money with a submitter

[tranza]

Advance Submitter!

[stev0]

I like chameleon, haven't tried DS though... i may have to give it a go. I've heard the database sucks though?

[georgeyw]

I like chameleon, haven't tried DS though... i may have to give it a go. I've heard the database sucks though?

yes heard the same - where can you get a better db without having to signup for 3months?

[WarChild]

CHAMELEON SUBMITTER

CHAMELEON SUBMITTER TUTORIAL

Mind if I ask what your income is roughly using Chameleon submitter? Is it above $20,000 a month?

[Argoz]

With Chameleon Submitter you have a full database updated weekly...

[Barefootsies]

This is like anything else,.. those who have done the homework, and are seriously commited to making money, and the lazy.

Chameleon's a good program depending on what you are doing/submitting, use, time management, and so on. It has it's good and bad points.

DS is for those who are commited to getting their submissions on the best sites, with best traffic. So you spend more time customizing it for the high profile, and key sites for traffic, easy of getting listed and so forth. Illiminating a lot of small fries, tgp's who have ridiculous rules, and threaten to blacklist you for every little thing, and so on.

DS is superior for those who do a lot of gallery submissions, make a living at it, and want to target the best sites, and traffic. Also maximizing their effort and time.

[Nifield]

Just a question:

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Nifield (11:07 AM) :
oh i see, so if your generating 10 galleries all at once for the day, some sites wont be generated due to timers
USER (11:08 AM) :
yeah its kinda a timer
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

You mean 10 galleries for 10 different domains?

Does it matter? i usually do about 3 per domain, but never submit more than a sites rules state... some sites will allow me to submit as many as i want, and other sites only allow 1 per day...

Hope this explanation helps you understand.

[Nifield]

With Chameleon Submitter you have a full database updated weekly...

Dreamsubmitter offers the same with a 3 month membership.

but as i have said in the past and i will say again, A DATABASE THAT EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG USES WILL NOT MAKE YOU ANY MONEY. You need to customize your own database personally for maximum performance and results. Dreamsubmitter offers a large database, but for anyone that asks me personally i will ALWAYS state that my personal database is under 400 sites, and i get over 500,000 unique hits daily. I get these kind of numbers because i customize my database to fit my needs. - People then ask me if they can buy MY database, and what i say to them is this: You still are not getting it, my database is customized to my galleries and my partner accounts, and the sites that like and list my galleries. Therefor my database would not perform as good for anyone else. And this is why i stress the fact, that in order to make GOOD money in galleries, you MUST put in the time to customize your own database based on the galleries you do personally and the content you use, and the sites that list you.

I will also add, that if you use dreamsubmitter I will personally give you as much advice as you ask for with building a database and doing galleries. I have been doing them for years, and have a lot of experience with them.

So again, the people that are making $10k+ a month on galleries are the people that are using dreamsubmitter. Who would you rather take advice from?

[Dirty F]

Dreamsubmitter offers the same with a 3 month membership.

but as i have said in the past and i will say again, A DATABASE THAT EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG USES WILL NOT MAKE YOU ANY MONEY. You need to customize your own database personally for maximum performance and results. Dreamsubmitter offers a large database, but for anyone that asks me personally i will ALWAYS state that my personal database is under 400 sites, and i get over 500,000 unique hits daily. I get these kind of numbers because i customize my database to fit my needs. - People then ask me if they can buy MY database, and what i say to them is this: You still are not getting it, my database is customized to my galleries and my partner accounts, and the sites that like and list my galleries. Therefor my database would not perform as good for anyone else. And this is why i stress the fact, that in order to make GOOD money in galleries, you MUST put in the time to customize your own database based on the galleries you do personally and the content you use, and the sites that list you.

I will also add, that if you use dreamsubmitter I will personally give you as much advice as you ask for with building a database and doing galleries. I have been doing them for years, and have a lot of experience with them.

So again, the people that are making $10k+ a month on galleries are the people that are using dreamsubmitter. Who would you rather take advice from?

Yup very good points. But i still dont get why i need DS for that? I can completely customize my dbase with CS and fit it to my needs.

[Dirty F]

Well, i guess i'll try the trial myself and see if i have reason to switch.

[Nifield]

Well, i guess i'll try the trial myself and see if i have reason to switch.

Hit me up on icq and i'll be more than happy to give you a 1 on 1 walkthrough of our program.

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I'm sure you'll be pleased with our software.

[Nifield]

oh btw, the one on one walkthrough is available for anyone that purchases a trial, so hit me up if you need, most people really get a lot out of it and completely understand the software by the end of it.

[mufas]

Chameleon

http://free-sex-host.com/submitter.htm

[Nifield]

Chameleon

http://free-sex-host.com/submitter.htm

I'll offer you and any other chameleon user a free trial of dreamsubmitter with a free personal walkthrough from me, hit me up on icq

9635421

or reilly at dreamsubmitter dot com

[stev0]

Dreamsubmitter offers the same with a 3 month membership.

but as i have said in the past and i will say again, A DATABASE THAT EVERYONE AND THEIR DOG USES WILL NOT MAKE YOU ANY MONEY. You need to customize your own database personally for maximum performance and results. Dreamsubmitter offers a large database, but for anyone that asks me personally i will ALWAYS state that my personal database is under 400 sites, and i get over 500,000 unique hits daily. I get these kind of numbers because i customize my database to fit my needs. - People then ask me if they can buy MY database, and what i say to them is this: You still are not getting it, my database is customized to my galleries and my partner accounts, and the sites that like and list my galleries. Therefor my database would not perform as good for anyone else. And this is why i stress the fact, that in order to make GOOD money in galleries, you MUST put in the time to customize your own database based on the galleries you do personally and the content you use, and the sites that list you.

I will also add, that if you use dreamsubmitter I will personally give you as much advice as you ask for with building a database and doing galleries. I have been doing them for years, and have a lot of experience with them.

So again, the people that are making $10k+ a month on galleries are the people that are using dreamsubmitter. Who would you rather take advice from?

I know people that do $10k/month submitting galleries by hand too...

I'd be up for trying dream submitter though, im using chameleon right now... it also has a fully customizable database. I like it because i dont have to change it much, if you have to do the whole database yourself then why pay $35/month when you could just buy advanced submitter? (i used to use that too)

[Marshal]

gotta try dreamsubmitter!
Nifield, i tried to contact you on icq. please answer me when you get back online... ;)

[Titan]

Hand submitting? Haven't done that in years. The best way is to use an advanced program like Dream Submitter that does all the work but still has the ability to give it that hand submitted quality

[Walrus]

Chameleon.

[Ace_luffy]

Dream Submitter ......

[Satisfaction]

hmm i might have to give DS a go.. im on chameleon atm

[asl]

I use Chameleon and I'm very happy about it. One thing I like is the way they interconnect with the other application they just release : Chameleon Partner Account Requester. The two applications just mix in a really easy way.
More info here : http://www.chameleonsubmitter.com/ph...k.php?ref=3056

Chameleon is an easy software to use. I heard from a friend that tried Dream Submitter that the interface was way too hard to understand :/
And I see you give a one-to-one walkthrough which is not needed with Chameleon as it is quite easy to understand :P

I don't work for chameleon, I just like their soft and I'd be happy to try the one month free trial so I can give my opinion on your Dream Submitter which seems to have powerful advanced features

[Nifield]

I know people that do $10k/month submitting galleries by hand too...

I'd be up for trying dream submitter though, im using chameleon right now... it also has a fully customizable database. I like it because i dont have to change it much, if you have to do the whole database yourself then why pay $35/month when you could just buy advanced submitter? (i used to use that too)

With dreamsubmitter there is monthly updates to the database, so you can still get your updates, but lock the sites you wish to lock so they dont get overwritten when you are updating. And dreamsubmitter is a FAR better program than advanced submitter, its more customizable, more efficient, better error checking, and just easier to use.

[Nifield]

gotta try dreamsubmitter!
Nifield, i tried to contact you on icq. please answer me when you get back online... ;)

Got ya, let me know if you want a walkthrough and i'll help you out personally.

[Nifield]

hmm i might have to give DS a go.. im on chameleon atm

As i said above, if you're using chameleon i will give you a free month of dreamsubmitter and a one on one walkthrough to try us out. Hit me up in ciq if you're interested!

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[Nifield]

I use Chameleon and I'm very happy about it. One thing I like is the way they interconnect with the other application they just release : Chameleon Partner Account Requester. The two applications just mix in a really easy way.
More info here : http://www.chameleonsubmitter.com/ph...k.php?ref=3056

Chameleon is an easy software to use. I heard from a friend that tried Dream Submitter that the interface was way too hard to understand :/
And I see you give a one-to-one walkthrough which is not needed with Chameleon as it is quite easy to understand :P

I don't work for chameleon, I just like their soft and I'd be happy to try the one month free trial so I can give my opinion on your Dream Submitter which seems to have powerful advanced features

Sure hit me up in icq and i'll be more than happy to set you up with a free month so you can try dreamsubmitter out

9635421

[tASSy]

Hit me up on icq and i'll be more than happy to give you a 1 on 1 walkthrough of our program.

9635421

I'm sure you'll be pleased with our software.

i'm going to hit you up as well, i need to figure out the best submitter for my needs too (i'm such a small site, with not much content yet, i don't think i'll be needing all the tools, but it'd be nice to have a submitter that becomes more robust or can handle my tasks as i become more robust in submitting. i should point out at this time that i have never submitted a gallery on my own.

[Satisfaction]

ICQ sent

[Nifield]

i'm going to hit you up as well, i need to figure out the best submitter for my needs too (i'm such a small site, with not much content yet, i don't think i'll be needing all the tools, but it'd be nice to have a submitter that becomes more robust or can handle my tasks as i become more robust in submitting. i should point out at this time that i have never submitted a gallery on my own.

NP hit me up and i'll be more than happy to help.