!! MPA3 Customers - READ THIS !! - NATS 100% FREE for 3 months! ONLY THE NEXT 2 WEEKS

[Nathan]

Too Much Media, this years "Best Solution Provider" at the Fourth Anual Xbiz Awards, has deceided to give NATS away for FREE for up to 3 months to ANY MPA3 CUSTOMER! Due to the amount of lies, false information, and exhaggerated claims we have been hearing through the grape vine over the past few weeks we have decided to show everyone exactly why NATS is the best affiliate software available to the adult industry.

You have 2 weeks to take us up on this offer and find out for yourself why NATS is so much superior to MPA3! Try it 100% RISK FREE! See why NATS is considered the Industry Standard for Affiliate Software!

All we need to see is a server with MPA3 installed on it. The system does NOT have to be live yet! We will install NATS on that server 100% FREE OF CHARGE. We will also IMPORT all configuration and reseller details from MPA3 into the NATS database FREE OF CHARGE! Once that is done, our support staff will give you FREE training of NATS (approx. 6 hours live with us on the phone!) and help you with setting up your tours to work with NATS and MPA3.

In contrast to our competition, we actually offer full training of our software to HELP you understand how to best use our software and do not expect you to immediately understand the ins and outs of setting up a successful affiliate program! We MAKE SURE you KNOW the MANY FEATURES NATS offers and especially that you UNDERSTAND them also.

Our software is MORE STABLE, it is MORE SCALABLE, it is MORE CUSTOMIZABLE and it has BETTER TRACKING than ANY of our competition! See it for yourself!

Too Much Media gives you the opportunity of a lifetime! Even if you have gotten MPA3 during their recent special promotion, simply wait for them to get MPA3 installed on your system. As soon as MPA3 is installed contact us and once we receive your request we will contact you for server details and immediately install NATS on the same server in 1-3 business days, not weeks!

This promotion has a total value of up to 3450 USD! Don't miss it!

Pricing of NATS after those 3 months is between $150 and $650 a month depending on the number of signups you have per month, for a single server running NATS. We are BETTER than our competition and we are CHEAPER than our competition because our product is written in a more efficiant way and thus easier for us to maintain! We will not make you sign a contract, so you are totally free to stay with NATS after the first 3 months or not.

But do not let PR-Talk fool you. TRY it for yourself! You will love it and you have absolutely nothing to lose!

Contact either me directly or use our Order Now page at http://www.toomuchmedia.com/order/index.html

[dropped9]

now thats some hot drama.... LOL

[justsexxx]

Okay first to reply here:

Why is yours MORE STABLE, MORE SCALABLE, and MORE CUSTOMIZABLE and offer better TRACKING?

[candyflip]

The gloves are on.

[Roald]

Okay first to reply here:

Why is yours MORE STABLE, MORE SCALABLE, and MORE CUSTOMIZABLE and offer better TRACKING?

becuase its written on GFY, geeez!

[XPays]

lordy-

thankfully have our own patented affiliate software so as not to have to get caught up in this kind of humour.

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[Roald]

BTW MP has given us great customer support on MAS, is the customer support on NATS any better lately?

[Oracle Porn]

competition is rough

[justsexxx]

becuase its written on GFY, geeez!

ARGHH stupid me you're right

[TMM_John]

BTW MP has given us great customer support on MAS, is the customer support on NATS any better lately?

I don't know how you can speak on how it is or ever was as you have never been a customer.

As far as MAS, from what I hear from everyone it is a good product.

[Roald]

I don't know how you can speak on how it is or ever was as you have never been a customer.

As far as MAS, from what I hear from everyone it is a good product.

Well you are correct when you say I never used your service, but I did hear about some problems with support in the past wich can be a bitch when you try to run a business correct? So just a question, feel free to answer it ;)))

[TMM_John]

Also, for those who are not customers of MPA our current normal special is still in full effect until the end of the month.

http://www.toomuchmedia.com/order/specials.html

[Nathan]

Okay first to reply here:

Why is yours MORE STABLE, MORE SCALABLE, and MORE CUSTOMIZABLE and offer better TRACKING?

More stable: we have moved many many people from competing products, including MPA3, over to NATS who have all said the system is faster and more stable after the switch.

More scalable: we support full load balancing, we support load balancing only tracking and join pages, we support using seperate databases for stats RETREIVAL and tracking, we support advanced caching systems like memcached.

More customizable: ALL pages are 100% templated, using a VERY powerful template engine (smarty - http://smarty.php.net) which makes it easier to change and customize more details in the system. If something is not possible in terms of customization design wise there are only very few things we have to change in the code to make it possible.
We also have a detailed and ever expanding knowledge base at http://kb.toomuchmedia.com/idx/8/0/N...omization.html which will give you some more ideas on this.

Tracking: Surfer Stats alone give admins detailed reports on join page and cascading. Standard tracking for affiliates offers campaigns. We offer unlimited programs which makes it easy to track things like tours with or without consoles very easily. Referrer tracking is also included. NATS v3 includes full tour tracking, ad tracking and 2 sub ids which you can define in any way.
We also let you create campaigns on the fly, for example for SEO stuff where you want to see which keywords brought which traffic.

Hope this explains it.

[StuartD]

The gloves are on.

Heh, sounds like the gloves are off!

[TMM_John]

Well you are correct when you say I never used your service, but I did hear about some problems with support in the past wich can be a bitch when you try to run a business correct? So just a question, feel free to answer it ;)))

Thats exactly why our original post mentioned the kind of shit talking from competitors and others that occours in this business. It's ridiculous. People make up and repeat whatever they feel like.

Our customer service is not perfect, never has been, never will be. No one's is. However it is good, very good in my opinion. When you experience it for yourself please then speak about it. Until then stick to things you know please.

[Roald]

....When you experience it for yourself please then speak about it. Until then stick to things you know please.

This was brought to my attention by people actually workingm with NATS lol

Anyway I am not trying to bash your product as I still thinkk it is a great tool, I jhust don't like this type of marketing to much ;))))

[webair]

nice offer guys

[justsexxx]

More stable: we have moved many many people from competing products, including MPA3, over to NATS who have all said the system is faster and more stable after the switch.

Hope this explains it.

Okay all other ones are pretty clear, this one I say is so so. I am sure ppl who moved from nats to a competing product will say the same over their new software.

Anyway keep competing, and inventing new stuff to be better than the competitor, and the affiliate will the winner at the end...

[TMM_John]

This was brought to my attention by people actually workingm with NATS lol

Anyway I am not trying to bash your product as I still thinkk it is a great tool, I jhust don't like this type of marketing to much ;))))

Thanks. As I said, I know it's not perfect. There are hiccups from time to time. Everyone experiences them. Perfection is quite hard to obtain.

[Michael O]

Good to see you two get a long so nicely.

[TMM_John]

Okay all other ones are pretty clear, this one I say is so so. I am sure ppl who moved from nats to a competing product will say the same over their new software.

Anyway keep competing, and inventing new stuff to be better than the competitor, and the affiliate will the winner at the end...

I only know of one client who has moved to MPA from NATS, Jasonandalex.com. That program was sold shortly there after. Hit up Alex and ask him privately how he feels about the move. I won't speak for him and neither should you. If you'd like to know more, please, ask him.

[Jace]

jeez....

[candyflip]

Heh, sounds like the gloves are off!

Nah...not there yet. I'm thinking that this is just the beginning.

[Nathan]

jeez....

I think its nice of us to give people NATS for free for 3 months, no?

No downside to it really, install NATS next to MPA3, test both next to eachother, and make up your mind then..

I love it

[Pete-KT]

Been using Nats products for close to a year now and Never had a complain, and tickets are takin care of almost right away. Thanks Nats and plan on being a customer for a long time coming

[TMM_John]

Nah...not there yet. I'm thinking that this is just the beginning.

It is. As everyone knows we marketed our software quite agressively when we released it. After a while we backed off a bit after whining from certain people about "not playing nice".

Recently, the things I've been hearing have been being said privately to our clients and the things I've seen posted here by our competition have been pretty off base. So yes, you'll see a bit more agressive marketing from us.

All it's going to do in the end however is allow people to really realize which product is more feature rich and superior.

[TMM_John]

Been using Nats products for close to a year now and Never had a complain, and tickets are takin care of almost right away. Thanks Nats and plan on being a customer for a long time coming

Thank you Pete. I know you wouldn't have chosen NATS for your own program after using it at another program if you weren't fully happy with it. I appreciate the kind words.

[devilspost]

As an affiliate I trust nats.

[Pete-KT]

Thank you Pete. I know you wouldn't have chosen NATS for your own program after using it at another program if you weren't fully happy with it. I appreciate the kind words.

You know me John, I give full credit where its due and Nats is one of the best tracking software's I have worked with from Affilaite and Program stand point.

[Fetish]

I have heard both are excellent systems. Why so much drama? Is it really necessary?

[TMM_John]

I have heard both are excellent systems. Why so much drama? Is it really necessary?

Why does it need to be "drama" there is no "drama". Everything on GFY needs to be called "drama". When a cable internet provider puts out an ad or offer for those subscribing to DSL and mentions it's benefits it's an ad, not "drama". Please don't try to turn this into an arguement for no reason.

I know your post wasn't meant to be an arguement or rude. Just when that word starts getting thrown around the sig whore board trackers go off and we get a mess.

[ServerGenius]

Check My Sig Bitch!

[StuartD]

Yup, I recommend NATS to anyone who is starting up a new program. I've been very happy with the software, the service and the support.

Dare I say it.... they're... top notch!

[TMM_John]

Yup, I recommend NATS to anyone who is starting up a new program. I've been very happy with the software, the service and the support.

Dare I say it.... they're... top notch!

Oh no! Now we're gonna get a sonofsam cartoon!

Thank you tho

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

[djdez]

Our support experience with Nats has proven to be very good. We have no complaints.

To be fair and clear MPA has been very accomodating during our recent move to nats and we appreciate their professionalism and courtesy.

[bigdog]

Our support experience with Nats has proven to be very good. We have no complaints.

To be fair and clear MPA has been very accomodating during our recent move to nats and we appreciate their professionalism and courtesy.

why did you move away from MPA?

[sextoyking]

John,

Nice special there Mabey time for a buyout of mpa?

[djdez]

why did you move away from MPA?

Two reasons. One, we were impressed with some of the features that were in nats. Two, we were with MPA for almost 3 years - so we felt it was time for a change and try something new.

[garry]

ha ha ha lol,, How low can you go ? Why not offer them money as well ? This is not like the first time you go after our customers. But its the first time you do it in public.

Now I know I shouldnt really post in your thread, BUT you kind a direct this one right at us.

Why don't you guys rather concentrate on being the best you can be instead of trying to steal from others. All you have to do is take good care of the customers you have, and try to make your program the best it can be. If you do you will see that the customers will come. Just a little business tip.

Now its not with out reason people call tomuchmedia the Copy and Paste Company.. Try once to come up with something new your self.

As for Jason and Alex being the only once that have left you guys... OK If you say so...

And why dont Alex come on the board here him self to talk about this. How about telling everyone WHY he left NATS. I know why, but you dont hear me talk about it just to try to trash NATS.

Also, please stop accusations about us. If you can not take the competition, then don't play the game.

Yes we have promoted our self more lately, but hey, we have just started

[Abyss_Vee]

Sweeeeeet

[justsexxx]

Two reasons. One, we were impressed with some of the features that were in nats. Two, we were with MPA for almost 3 years - so we felt it was time for a change and try something new.

What features?

[justsexxx]

Didn't joinrightnow move from NATS to partnersoft?

[Jake]

John, Nathan, et al. I seriously hope you take these comments as constructive criticism as I'm certainly not going to get into a pissing match with you. This will be my only post to this thread.

I cannot comment on your software nor your customer support because I'm not a client. The reason I am not a client is because of this type of behavior I've seen displayed on the boards since you launched Nats. Early last year when we were seeking a new affiliate backend for NaughtyBank we researched all the "off the shelf" solutions as well as custom options. To be totally honest Nats was on our short list however that's about the same time there were a serious of extremely unprofessional posts on this board by Too Much Media representatives.

I would have to guess I'm not the only company that has passed on Nats for similar reasons. In fact I know this to be the case because I've personally spoke to 3 other program owners who decided against Nats for this very reason. You see, it really doesn't matter how good your software or your customer support is when potential clients don't see the management team as being professional.

My 2 cents: money invested in a public relations professional would go a long way for you guys. Again, my comments are submitted strictly as constructive criticism. I really hope you guys can see that you're shooting yourselves in the foot on a regular basis.

[HorseShit]

Two, we were with MPA for almost 3 years - so we felt it was time for a change and try something new.

That is a very caked over response.. you should elaborate

[Nathan]

Didn't joinrightnow move from NATS to partnersoft?

No, joinrightnow did not.

Only two companies left NATS: JasonAndAlex and Karups. JasonAndAlex moved to MPA3, Karups are working on an in-house solution.

[TMM_John]

ha ha ha lol,, How low can you go ? Why not offer them money as well ? This is not like the first time you go after our customers. But its the first time you do it in public.

It's business. Don't be angry just becuase your market share continues to shrink. You went after quite a few of our clients pretty agressively in Vegas and I really wasn't happy with some of the stuff I heard. We're choosing to do it here, publicly. And in a fashion where your clients can compare your software side by side with ours with no obligation or cost. Then they can choose based on which is better, not what lies were whispered into their ears.

ha ha ha lol,, How low can you go ? Why not offer them money as well ? This is not like the first time you go after our customers. But its the first time you do it in public.

Now I know I shouldnt really post in your thread, BUT you kind a direct this one right at us.

Why don't you guys rather concentrate on being the best you can be instead of trying to steal from others. All you have to do is take good care of the customers you have, and try to make your program the best it can be. If you do you will see that the customers will come. Just a little business tip.

Since when have we ever _stolen_ anything from you. Thats simliar to what we're talking about. I hear a lot of things. Quite unprofessional things. Maybe you should choose to say more of what you have to say in public rather than behind people's backs. Perhaps it's becuase there is no basis to it. Thats a little business tip for you. And believe me, I don't need any. There's a reason our product is better than yours, that we have a larger and happier installed base than you, and that we are the most trusted and most used system available. And it's certainly not becuase i'm taking your "business tips".

Now its not with out reason people call tomuchmedia the Copy and Paste Company.. Try once to come up with something new your self.

Yep, more of those little one liners I've been seeing and hearing from you and Oystein lately. Exactly why this post was made in the first place. There's a reason a good number of people have moved from MPA to NATS and it's certainly not becuase we offer the same thing as you, it's becuase we offer a superior product with features your software cannot even come close to approaching. Thats' the simple point of this special.

As for Jason and Alex being the only once that have left you guys... OK If you say so...

And why dont Alex come on the board here him self to talk about this. How about telling everyone WHY he left NATS. I know why, but you dont hear me talk about it just to try to trash NATS.

Like I said, if he wants to discuss it with Alex he should do so privately. I had a conversation with Alex after he sold the program. It's not my place to repeat it, thats why I asked him to contact him privately.

Also, please stop accusations about us. If you can not take the competition, then don't play the game.

Same to you. The cheap shots aren't appreciated.

Yes we have promoted our self more lately, but hey, we have just started

Good Luck!

[TDF]

www.wcpcash.com

[HorseShit]

John, Nathan, et al. I seriously hope you take these comments as constructive criticism as I'm certainly not going to get into a pissing match with you. This will be my only post to this thread.

I cannot comment on your software nor your customer support because I'm not a client. The reason I am not a client is because of this type of behavior I've seen displayed on the boards since you launched Nats. Early last year when we were seeking a new affiliate backend for NaughtyBank we researched all the "off the shelf" solutions as well as custom options. To be totally honest Nats was on our short list however that's about the same time there were a serious of extremely unprofessional posts on this board by Too Much Media representatives.

I would have to guess I'm not the only company that has passed on Nats for similar reasons. In fact I know this to be the case because I've personally spoke to 3 other program owners who decided against Nats for this very reason. You see, it really doesn't matter how good your software or your customer support is when potential clients don't see the management team as being professional.

My 2 cents: money invested in a public relations professional would go a long way for you guys. Again, my comments are submitted strictly as constructive criticism. I really hope you guys can see that you're shooting yourselves in the foot on a regular basis.

[TMM_John]

John, Nathan, et al. I seriously hope you take these comments as constructive criticism as I'm certainly not going to get into a pissing match with you. This will be my only post to this thread.

I cannot comment on your software nor your customer support because I'm not a client. The reason I am not a client is because of this type of behavior I've seen displayed on the boards since you launched Nats. Early last year when we were seeking a new affiliate backend for NaughtyBank we researched all the "off the shelf" solutions as well as custom options. To be totally honest Nats was on our short list however that's about the same time there were a serious of extremely unprofessional posts on this board by Too Much Media representatives.

I would have to guess I'm not the only company that has passed on Nats for similar reasons. In fact I know this to be the case because I've personally spoke to 3 other program owners who decided against Nats for this very reason. You see, it really doesn't matter how good your software or your customer support is when potential clients don't see the management team as being professional.

My 2 cents: money invested in a public relations professional would go a long way for you guys. Again, my comments are submitted strictly as constructive criticism. I really hope you guys can see that you're shooting yourselves in the foot on a regular basis.

Point taken. I know you're posting to be constructive. It was largely in response to a lot of what I heard in Vegas and recent posts by the MPA team. It's GFY, thats how it goes. Obviously something is being done right. If we gain a lot and lose a few as a result of it thats fine.

As far as professionalism one only has to not too far into the past to learn how professional the MPA team really is. It's showing it's face again and I'm not going to stand by and watch them say and do as they wish.