AdultFriendFinder - why do you accept this scammers traffic?

[xxxjay]

http://www.imagecash.net/ - I was trying to pull the guys account #, but he keeps everything in a frame so you can't see his account.

I really think you should cancel his account...he is ripping a lot of honest companies off with stolen content and making money on it.

The guy is German, so it would be hard to get him in court, but cutting off his funding is a sure-fire way to put him out of biz.

[beemk]

i agree, they should cut his account and keep all his $. if he doesnt have sponsors he wont be able to pay for his servers.

[Zarathustra]

pid=p197241c is his aff id

yea, his site is pretty bad

[Ace_luffy]

did see anything on his site.....

[Zarathustra]

dude even has a bot posting stolen stuff

http://62.212.84.202/board/viewforum.php?f=29

it'll get way worse for sure if he isn't canned

[cyber_ninja]

http://www.imagecash.net/ - I was trying to pull the guys account #, but he keeps everything in a frame so you can't see his account.

I really think you should cancel his account...he is ripping a lot of honest companies off with stolen content and making money on it.

The guy is German, so it would be hard to get him in court, but cutting off his funding is a sure-fire way to put him out of biz.

right click and view sorce and youll find his id,its p197241

[xxxjay]

i agree, they should cut his account and keep all his $. if he doesnt have sponsors he wont be able to pay for his servers.

I just talked with 3 guys from other programs with exclusive content. Everybody who looked found something.

AFF should ban him.

[nudecanada]

Yup, that site looks 100% stolen content. Also looks like they are cutting watermarks off some images because they think if there is no watermark it is legal to steal the content.

[SmokeyTheBear]

The sites idea was really good, its too bad he decided to fuck it up..

[xxxjay]

Yup, that site looks 100% stolen content. Also looks like they are cutting watermarks off some images because they think if there is no watermark it is legal to steal the content.

That's not even true...

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...000&public=yes over 100 every link

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...987&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...977&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...951&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...937&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...913&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...897&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...884&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...866&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...062&public=yes

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...017&public=yes

[nudecanada]

That's not even true...

I was just in there and saw a lot of what appeared to be Oral Amber content with the URL not on the images. *shrug*

If you go through the forums, there is a post that says if there is no watermark on the image, it is not considered stolen or a copyright violation.

[Pointless]

how many affiliates would AFF have?

I presume it would be hard to monitor them all.

Maybe sending an email to them would help in this case.

If after then nothing happens, that would be the time to have a rant =)

[nudecanada]

Actually I stand corrected. I saw one pic of Oral Amber with the watermarked trimmed, some CindySinX pics with the watermark removed, and some other girls who's names I can't place. There's probably more but it only took me a few minutes to find those ones. But you're right, almost all have watermarks.

[xxxjay]

how many affiliates would AFF have?

I presume it would be hard to monitor them all.

Maybe sending an email to them would help in this case.

If after then nothing happens, that would be the time to have a rant =)

I agree, AFF has still got prime real estate with me:
http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/main_1.html

At least 5 different content producers now know they are being violated, so I think this is something board-worthy.

[jscott]

a TON of AFF affiliates do illegal and unethical marketing, like adware, start page hijacking, popups on local computers etc etc

i made a thread about it here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ltfriendfinder (if you look at the thread you can see i dont think anyone really cares)

[BV]

You can add me to his "ripped off" list.

[dbavaria]

Well as you guys say "AFF has a lot of sponsers, how can they keep track of every one of them", Imagecash.net apparently has roughly 170000 galleries (galleries, keep in mind not individual pics)....how without looking at each pic are they supposed to keep track of copyrights? (yeah yeah i know its their job)

But apparently they say their trying:

http://62.212.84.202/board/viewtopic.php?t=33035

[GoNe]

I hate that fucking site. I would love to see it go down. Ppl spam my forum everyday with links to stolen content. Argh I hate that site so much!

[xxxjay]

Well as you guys say "AFF has a lot of sponsers, how can they keep track of every one of them", Imagecash.net apparently has roughly 170000 galleries (galleries, keep in mind not individual pics)....how without looking at each pic are they supposed to keep track of copyrights? (yeah yeah i know its their job)

But apparently they say their trying:

http://62.212.84.202/board/viewtopic.php?t=33035

All AFF has to do is kill one account.

[xato]

his whois is info is apparently wrong.
his address is german, but his country code says NL for netherlands.

also his site is illegal in germany. as soon as the feds notice it he'll go straight to court.

[Doctor Dre]

his whois is info is apparently wrong.
his address is german, but his country code says NL for netherlands.

also his site is illegal in germany. as soon as the feds notice it he'll go straight to court.

Obviously... but is he really german ? Or just trying to hide who he really is ?

[xato]

the zip code matches the city in germany he is giving in his info. so i guess his address is correct, just the country code is wrong. should be DE instead of NL

[fuzzylogic]

p197241

that wasn't so hard

[fuzzylogic]

p197241

that wasn't so hard

woops
i missed a letter at the end of that, but i am not gonna add it.

[xxxjay]

his whois is info is apparently wrong.
his address is german, but his country code says NL for netherlands.

also his site is illegal in germany. as soon as the feds notice it he'll go straight to court.

I'm pretty sure he is NL...spoofing German.

[xato]

I'm pretty sure he is NL...spoofing German.

what sense would that make?
i rather think that he feels safer using the countrycode NL.
however the address he is giving does exist in germany.

[andrej_NDC]

I got a virus 2 days ago and guess who was popping up all the time...and its everytime I got some trojan, swypare, etc...AFF loves such traffic.

[Haydos]

a TON of AFF affiliates do illegal and unethical marketing, like adware, start page hijacking, popups on local computers etc etc

i made a thread about it here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ltfriendfinder (if you look at the thread you can see i dont think anyone really cares)

when it comes to money, people are funny

[Theo]

damn

http://www.imagecash.net/gallery.php...276&public=yes

a lot of stolen content from us

[Theo]

wow, check this out

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr....imagecash.net

[xxxice]

wow, check this out

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr....imagecash.net

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...gecash.net#top

[Theo]

yeah, shitty,time to take action

[RawAlex]

Considering the answer given by Lars in the thread regarding Fusker, I think the answer is this:

Send an email to legal @ whatever there corporate domain is (finderinc.com?) with details of your claim. Legal will look at it.

What he is really saying is that unless there is caselaw or a valid DMCA complaint from the content owner, it is unlikely anything will happen.

AFF companies have made their choice how they will handle these issues, nobody should be surprised at the end result.

Alex

[fetishblog]

I seriously doubt it's Image Cash removing the watermarks. It's the users. Or that's how they found them on another site and they just put them on this site as is. My reasoning for that is because 50% have the watermarks, 50% don't. Of course, maybe they just haven't gotten around to editting the ones with watermarks. *shrug*

[Stallion]

damn content thieves.. needs to be shutdown.

[JOKER]

Looks like he is hosted by NFOrce.nl which is quite popular in the warez-scene...

They seem to have a Rack with assigned IP's at Leaseweb.nl / Leaseweb.com

Please send email to "[email protected]" for complaints

Steve

[Major (Tom)]

i think, now dont quote me on this, you can find a sponsor liable if they are in fact allowing an affiliate to promote them via shaddy methods, or being promoted ligitamatley on a page incorporating shady methods. When I used to run sufer forums back in 1999, when you would hotlink a sponsor, the smart sponsor would go after the other sponsors on the page as well.
I dont know how exact this is, maybe i was just scared into remove the link hottens, but in anycase AFF should do the right thing.
Whats sad is you cant just show your attorney this page and say "act." They dont know a thing about the technical side of the net and if this guy is cloaking, redirecting etc, you just went down a 300 dollar an hour goose chase and ending up having to hand your attorney the wrong doings on a silver platter, for him.
Duke

[seeric]

I just talked with 3 guys from other programs with exclusive content. Everybody who looked found something.

AFF should ban him.

if anyone sees ragecash or extremepaychecks stuff on there let me know.

theres too much in there for me to look at, so if anyone sees anythin, i'd appreciate it.

[Peacemaker]

why dont you guys he stole content from contact the webhost?

[Theo]

why dont you guys he stole content from contact the webhost?

no worries,im sending them a DMCA, funny thing we even have access to that datacenter for our servers with security card if i recall well. Maybe unplug them myself? :D

[chowda]

there are alot of these image hosting sites out there that uses aff.

hard to killem all :D

[RogerV]

I was just in there and saw a lot of what appeared to be Oral Amber content with the URL not on the images. *shrug*

If you go through the forums, there is a post that says if there is no watermark on the image, it is not considered stolen or a copyright violation.

Unkool in so many ways.....

[Peacemaker]

no worries,im sending them a DMCA, funny thing we even have access to that datacenter for our servers with security card if i recall well. Maybe unplug them myself? :D

a funny idea, but i guess that would be illegal too ;)
but contacting the webhost to shot down the site would be a possibility to get rid of such a site

[jscott]

when it comes to money, people are funny

i totally agree (sadly)

[Xenophage]

We are already on this specific case. Again if you find an affiliate spamming spimming or in general doing shady creepy stuff, please feel free to contact our legal staff, we have full time in house counsel that deals with this specific issue. How many other companies do this ? send your complaints and concerns to legal (at) friendfinderinc.com and they will get attention and be dealt with as action warrants.

[hive]

We are already on this specific case. Again if you find an affiliate spamming spimming or in general doing shady creepy stuff, please feel free to contact our legal staff, we have full time in house counsel that deals with this specific issue. How many other companies do this ? send your complaints and concerns to legal (at) friendfinderinc.com and they will get attention and be dealt with as action warrants.

Give your tech staff more redbull, I need those xml feeds!

[BV]

I think this is him:

[Rui]

wow, check this out

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr....imagecash.net

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[SiMpLe]

I'm in full post / battle mode now - feel free to jump in
http://62.212.84.202/board/viewtopic.php?p=73418

(mods sorry about the post to the other board, this is important to make people aware)

[RawAlex]

I just love the idea of paying surfers to go out and find unprotected sites and rip their content. A business model that obviously appeals to the surfers... but is 100% dependant on stealing from others and indirectly defrauding the sponsors.

I like it.

Alex