Official TheBestPorn and RabbitsReviews Reply on Guba - GoFuckYourself.com

Aly · 02-21-2006, 01:41 PM

While we've understood for a while now that GUBA is badly perceived by many in our industry, we've been hesitant to refuse their business simply because they're a controversial site. We don't consider ourselves in a position to judge the legalities of this, and we attempt to stay impartial and not get too involved in making judgments when sites become popular or unpopular to do business with. We've operated under the understanding that GUBA provides an interface by which to find legal content, similar in a broad sense to any online directory service.

However, due to overwhelming feedback from our other business associates, and after much discussion between us about this issue, we have jointly decided to remove GUBA from our listings. While we certainly have our own views on the ethics involved in this, we want to clarify that this is strictly a business decision. Thanks.

Rick & Aly, http://www.thebestporn.com
& Mantas M., http://www.rabbitsreviews.com

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Just_Dave · 02-21-2006, 01:42 PM

interesing news

Jakke PNG · 02-21-2006, 01:43 PM

Nice move.

xNetworx · 02-21-2006, 01:43 PM

Wow.. Action it is!

Nader · 02-21-2006, 01:44 PM

Alyyyyyyyyyyyyyy sup baby!

Thanks for the news!

seeric · 02-21-2006, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aly

While we've understood for a while now that GUBA is badly perceived by many in our industry, we've been hesitant to refuse their business simply because they're a controversial site. We don't consider ourselves in a position to judge the legalities of this, and we attempt to stay impartial and not get too involved in making judgments when sites become popular or unpopular to do business with. We've operated under the understanding that GUBA provides an interface by which to find legal content, similar in a broad sense to any online directory service.

However, due to overwhelming feedback from our other business associates, and after much discussion between us about this issue, we have jointly decided to remove GUBA from our listings. While we certainly have our own views on the ethics involved in this, we want to clarify that this is strictly a business decision. Thanks.

Rick & Aly, http://www.thebestporn.com
& Mantas M., http://www.rabbitsreviews.com

.

This is the first of many to come. Guba is bad for the online adult business. period. The Best Porn and Rabbits jsut got mad more respect from content producers throughout the industry.

Major (Tom) · 02-21-2006, 01:45 PM

wow. mantas stepping up to the plate and once again showing he's a man of principals.

Duke

Relish XXX · 02-21-2006, 01:45 PM

What about other news group services that you advertise? Personally I like news groups as I enojy spamming the shit out of them each day and getting free traffic. I can fill up a news group before my morning cup of tea.

JFK · 02-21-2006, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the post Aly

FredIsMe · 02-21-2006, 01:45 PM

very interesting... to each their own

luv$ · 02-21-2006, 01:45 PM

What a delicate situation.

I think skinning GFY was one of the worst things they could have done (or the best, considering the lack of scruples in adult)

Time will only tell...

SmokeyTheBear · 02-21-2006, 01:46 PM

classy move.. good work , nothing bad about removing them , if guba fly's straight you can always put them back.. but stolen content runs guba.. if they simply complied with copyright owners in a timely fashion , they wouldnt have a product.

After Shock Media · 02-21-2006, 01:46 PM

one more domino falls.

jade12 · 02-21-2006, 01:47 PM

I think this is GREAT news and just saw it posted on another board too!

Rui · 02-21-2006, 01:49 PM

Lets see who has the balls to come up with similar statements!

MaDalton · 02-21-2006, 01:49 PM

good move

i need to find the posts from months ago when Kathleen/lesbodojo was yelling at me cause I called guba thieves. seems like the situation is a bit different now

Aly · 02-21-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX

What about other news group services that you advertise? Personally I like news groups as I enojy spamming the shit out of them each day and getting free traffic. I can fill up a news group before my morning cup of tea.

We'll remove others too, but might need help finding them since we list over 9000 sites! We don't plan on operating under double-standards. ;)

Theo · 02-21-2006, 01:54 PM

much respect from me over this action

Roald · 02-21-2006, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rui

Lets see who has the balls to come up with similar statements!

We at Freeones removed GUBA from our review section too!

Oh wait we never reviewed it

Rand · 02-21-2006, 01:55 PM

Aly has spoken!

....and apparently in a way that many here happen to agree with.

Cheers!

pornstar2pac · 02-21-2006, 01:56 PM

good to see someone has balls around here

BoyAlley · 02-21-2006, 01:56 PM

Class act Aly!

SilentKnight · 02-21-2006, 01:57 PM

I applaud your excellent business decision.

Manowar · 02-21-2006, 01:57 PM

Good Stuff!

baddog · 02-21-2006, 02:12 PM

I did not know TBP and Rabbit's worked in conjunction with each other, or is this just a mutual statement?

RyuLion · 02-21-2006, 02:15 PM

Wuho! More traffic for my, reviewed sites!

Aly · 02-21-2006, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

I did not know TBP and Rabbit's worked in conjunction with each other, or is this just a mutual statement?

It's a mutual statement. We do have a very strong level of cooperation with Rabbit's Reviews and other review sites. Given that we were both specifically mentioned in an earlier thread we felt it appropriate to jointly respond.

chase · 02-21-2006, 02:20 PM

Totally off topic, but I'd love to have Mantas alone for a few hours, heh.

wdsguy · 02-21-2006, 02:23 PM

hmm interesting.

Reak AGV · 02-21-2006, 02:24 PM

That's great news Aly!!!!!

G-Rotica · 02-21-2006, 02:25 PM

If GUBA goes away, someone else will just replace them.

RawAlex · 02-21-2006, 02:27 PM

The next question will be:

Will the major TGPs and link sites agree to not list sites promoting Guba?

Remove the traffic... remove the income... remove the reason to stay in business.

Alex

Matt Collins · 02-21-2006, 02:28 PM

Very interesting statement Aly and I certainly understand the delicate situation you guys are in. However, the bottom line is always doing what's right for business.

Business is why we all work so hard (many work very hard creating original content) and I am glad that you heard a lot of feedback and more importantly, that you made the right business decision.

Maybe after a few drinks we can have a good debate on the merits of Guba...we have our best discussions late at night at trade shows!!

Matt

ddfGandalf · 02-21-2006, 02:30 PM

Nice business decision.
Respect.

Deputy Chief Command · 02-21-2006, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

wow. mantas stepping up to the plate and once again showing he's a man of principals.

Duke

what are you talking about ? all he said was that he thought guba's money is OK and they are more than HAPPY to take guba's money BUT, appearantly many other people they do business with dont like guba and might not want to do business with them anymore because they think guba's money is more than OK

so in the end they remove guba not because they think guba is bad but because they are afraid they will lose business from other people that think guba is bad

Relish XXX · 02-21-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G-Rotica

If GUBA goes away, someone else will just replace them.

They wont go away and I bet within the next 6 month a minimum of 2 more GUBA clones will appear. It is legal and it earns a shit load of money.

HairToStay · 02-21-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

The next question will be:

Will the major TGPs and link sites agree to not list sites promoting Guba?

Remove the traffic... remove the income... remove the reason to stay in business.

Alex

I said that in another thread. Let's STOP trading with sites that promote GUBA (I always have) and show we're not all scummy webmasters without morals or self-respect.

Pete-KT · 02-21-2006, 02:34 PM

Very nice move on your end

PussyTeenies · 02-21-2006, 03:01 PM

nice.. hope it doesnt start a flamewar

jacked · 02-21-2006, 03:06 PM

good to hear... the less webmasters supporting those thieves the better

Morgan · 02-21-2006, 03:07 PM

I REALLY appreciate that.

great stuff guys!

Ramos · 02-21-2006, 03:11 PM

and that's that.

TheLegacy · 02-21-2006, 03:16 PM

I realize how difficult yet important this decision is - someone had to make a stand for webmaster rights and set a standard for others to follow. I applaud you Aly and the folks at TheBestPorn for taking the lead in not wishing to associate yourself with the character of such companies.

I can only hope others see the wisdom that more respect and eventually advertising dollars are spent on companies / boards with integrity

Zarathustra · 02-21-2006, 03:19 PM

well respected business decision

Phoenix · 02-21-2006, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chase

Totally off topic, but I'd love to have Mantas alone for a few hours, heh.

i think i can arrange that if you are female

chase · 02-21-2006, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix

i think i can arrange that if you are female

LOL, of course I am. *grin*

JFK · 02-21-2006, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

good to see someone has balls around here

Ever since I've known Aly she's always had "BALLS"

ArkansasDave · 02-21-2006, 03:27 PM

Thanks for the information Aly

You and Rick run a Top-Notch program

clickclickclick · 02-21-2006, 03:31 PM

fuck, go with the crowd...

what about programs that accepts SPAM AND SPYWARE? you've worked with them too.

we dont hear about them. this is bullshit... are what they are doing that bad?

DamageX · 02-21-2006, 03:33 PM

Yes. Crush'em.

02-21-2006, 01:41 PM	#1
Aly President, ePufferProfits Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,881	Official TheBestPorn and RabbitsReviews Reply on Guba While we've understood for a while now that GUBA is badly perceived by many in our industry, we've been hesitant to refuse their business simply because they're a controversial site. We don't consider ourselves in a position to judge the legalities of this, and we attempt to stay impartial and not get too involved in making judgments when sites become popular or unpopular to do business with. We've operated under the understanding that GUBA provides an interface by which to find legal content, similar in a broad sense to any online directory service. However, due to overwhelming feedback from our other business associates, and after much discussion between us about this issue, we have jointly decided to remove GUBA from our listings. While we certainly have our own views on the ethics involved in this, we want to clarify that this is strictly a business decision. Thanks. Rick & Aly, http://www.thebestporn.com & Mantas M., http://www.rabbitsreviews.com . __________________ . . Aly's ICQ: 51504163 . Aly's Email: [email protected]

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02-21-2006, 01:55 PM	#20
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02-21-2006, 02:28 PM	#33
Matt Collins Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,060	Very interesting statement Aly and I certainly understand the delicate situation you guys are in. However, the bottom line is always doing what's right for business. Business is why we all work so hard (many work very hard creating original content) and I am glad that you heard a lot of feedback and more importantly, that you made the right business decision. Maybe after a few drinks we can have a good debate on the merits of Guba...we have our best discussions late at night at trade shows!! Matt __________________ Check out Globally Translated!-Translate your sites and join the global economy! MattLaw -The law firm for webmasters and site owners! ICQ: 254-829-586 Who is this Matt guy? Check out the Ambush Interview

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