An XMAS present for the GFY Top Sponsors!!! But all should read!

[TexasDreams]

I've been doing some automated looking at some of the contest threads of late, and I see some "most interesting" patterns in the IP's and refcodes in the sigs. And also running searches against the multiple apache web server logs of GFY.

Every time in the past, when I have shut down contest threads that were breaking the rules in just about every single way, there were some sponsors that got REALLY pissed off and complained to those above me. Now, I can understand top sponsors wanting views and mentions. But is it really worth it when the VERY few are leaching thousands out their pockets per month???

I don't want to start killing off contests run by GFY's top sponsors, but I really think it's time to start shit-canning the contest whores, and start publishing exactly just how often they are stealing money from the sponsors from the "legitimate" webmasters here on GFY. And if it comes right down to it, I don't have ANY problem with publicly posting the actual IP's and email addy's of those that are only making any money in adult as post whores.

If you are a GFY top sponsor and running contests, don't hesitate in hitting me up (my contact info is in my sig). I don't have ANY problem in auditing any contest thread for the GFY Top Sponsors, that will weed out those that are cheating, using multiple nicks, using automated (bot) software, not following the rules, or ANY violation of GFY's rules. And I don't have any problem banning the offender's, their IP's, or their domains for life.

Mark (aka TexasDreams)
[email protected]
icq : 168914369

[BoyAlley]

TexasDreams you make my prolapse tingle in that oooh so special kind of way.

[RevSand]

HARDCORE.. But a great idea and hope to see it put to use.

[sharp]

looks like woj may be out of here. :D

[WiredGuy]

I think most sponsors see it as a way to buy a sticky thread and they depend on the post whores to keep the thread on the first page.
WG

[TexasDreams]

I think most sponsors see it as a way to buy a sticky thread and they depend on the post whores to keep the thread on the first page.
WG

I've seen a lot of sponsors lose more money in a contest whoring thread than it would cost them to skin the board for a week. You might be shocked to see the actual number of contest whores (those that have NEVER posted outside of a contest thread).

[SomeCreep]

Those contest threads attract a lot of surfers. Like good ole' "firehorse" and "born4porn."

14,000 of their 15,000 postcount are from posting in contest threads.

Other than that, it's pretty obvious the one's winning those contests are people using multiple nicks and bots. They're easy to spot too, because you'll see 3 or 4 nicks all registered on the same day like 1 year ago, using the same exact sig, and never see those nicks in threads other than contests.

[BoyAlley]

I've said it many times before, and I'll say it many times again:

Sponsors need to get more creative with their marketing efforts.

When will we see some fresh new marketing ideas?
Hrmmmmmmmmmmmm?

These rinse and repeat contest threads are ooooooooooold.

[BV]

I think most sponsors see it as a way to buy a sticky thread and they depend on the post whores to keep the thread on the first page.
WG

What he said.

They might be losing a few bucks to the post whores but they are gaining much more exposure to attract new affilaites.

[xclusive]

Great news, way to much obvious bullshit going on. I only post in the pussycash contests as they have been good to me. I thought I might be getting banned from the contest threads for actually sending them traffic The way things were going lol

[martinsc]

great move, TD

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

It should only be affiliates that can take part in contests, not surfers or sig whores.

[TexasDreams]

It should only be affiliates that can take part in contests, not surfers or sig whores.

Or those that wear pink hats?!?!?!

[SteveLightspeed]

See Sig!!!!

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

Or those that wear pink hats?!?!?!

[TexasDreams]

And the contest whores who send no traffic are already bitching and crying to my icq.

[00:22] xxxxxxxx: no worries time to pull whatever adult.com links i might have up
the fake nick comment was funny tho half the board is fake nicks
LOL
gnite
[00:23] texasdreams: We will miss those 3 sales per month. Lensman will have to auction off one of his 20 vehicles.

[TexasDreams]

See Sig!!!!

You may be an attention whore, but you are WAY too sexy to be banned!

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

See Sig!!!!

And what a fine looking sig it is.

[pocketkangaroo]

It's a good idea, but I think that you should have to be an active affiliate to be in a contest. I've never participated in one, nor have the urge to, but I don't think it's too much to ask to have the participants be an affiliate of the program and sent one sale in the lifetime of the program.

Better yet, why not just give top sponsors stickies at a better rate instead of having them be forced to run contest threads all month? The sponsor gets the exposure without having to track a contest, the board makes a few more bucks, and the actual adult webmasters on the site don't have to dig through 8 contest threads on the homepage at all times.

Lets face it, contest threads have very few adult webmasters in them these days.

[JFK]

See Sig!!!!

Ok, what did I win ??

[sicone]

you mean I might stand a chance at winning a contest?

[notabook]

When will we see some fresh new marketing ideas?
Hrmmmmmmmmmmmm?

July 3rd, 2007.

[ThumbLord]

so next time an actual webmaster might win a contest?

[abz]

so next time an actual webmaster might win a contest?

that will be the day

[madawgz]

i was just thinking about this the other day, i wonder what these professional contest posters bring in a month, it must be over a grand....hmmm

[Bas]

I've seen a lot of sponsors lose more money in a contest whoring thread than it would cost them to skin the board for a week. You might be shocked to see the actual number of contest whores (those that have NEVER posted outside of a contest thread).

Now THAT is interesting info!

[Bas]

It's a good idea, but I think that you should have to be an active affiliate to be in a contest. I've never participated in one, nor have the urge to, but I don't think it's too much to ask to have the participants be an affiliate of the program and sent one sale in the lifetime of the program.

Better yet, why not just give top sponsors stickies at a better rate instead of having them be forced to run contest threads all month? The sponsor gets the exposure without having to track a contest, the board makes a few more bucks, and the actual adult webmasters on the site don't have to dig through 8 contest threads on the homepage at all times.

Lets face it, contest threads have very few adult webmasters in them these days.

That is probably interesting, but if the need for keeping a thread alive becomes less, then GFY could face fewer page views... Correct me if I am wrong.

[Brujah]

Can't you just shoot them in the head, or stab them in the neck? What's all this IP talk? Just have them executed.

[DarkJedi]

Contests are bullshit anyway. There is no way for you to catch all whores.

Better is to ban the contests and make sticky threads more availiable.

[Jace]

sponsors that do contest should have two types of payouts in their program, sales and contest winnings...when a contest is won on a board it goes into their contest winnings pile in their affiliate account...and until that money is released they must send 3 actual sales to the program

[darksoul]

I'd be surprised if a lot of webmasters even open contest threads anyway.

[Jace]

hey texasdreams, while you are here

did you notice the glitch on the front page? it is basically freezing everything, no threads move and no replies get counted, along with views

[DarkJedi]

oh yeah and sponsors don't give a shit about who wins - bots, surfers or webmasters.

they just want to have the their thread on top for a few weeks.

[Machete_]

I think you should ban the contests that only involves posting. I liked the Lovedollars contest where you you should place a banner on a page with AlexA rating and would get paid according to the rank.

[Jace]

I think you should ban the contests that only involves posting. I liked the Lovedollars contest where you you should place a banner on a page with AlexA rating and would get paid according to the rank.

ha, never saw that one, sounds cool

[sacX]

sponsors who repeatedly run the contests know what's happening imo.

[Klen]

There should be contest which require knowledge,not just blind posting.For example i was notice on one other board there is contest affiliate which will be first with one specific keyword on google will get 150$ into his account and other similar things.

[12clicks]

It's a good idea, but I think that you should have to be an active affiliate to be in a contest. I've never participated in one, nor have the urge to, but I don't think it's too much to ask to have the participants be an affiliate of the program and sent one sale in the lifetime of the program.

yeah, nothing worse than looking at contest winners accounts and see that they never sent a single click to your program. While at some level you expect it, on another level you wish the people you were sending the prizes to were actual webmasters.

[starpimps]

I've said it many times before, and I'll say it many times again:

Sponsors need to get more creative with their marketing efforts.

When will we see some fresh new marketing ideas?
Hrmmmmmmmmmmmm?

These rinse and repeat contest threads are ooooooooooold.

i agree with teh boyalley on this one

[12clicks]

I've said it many times before, and I'll say it many times again:

Sponsors need to get more creative with their marketing efforts.

When will we see some fresh new marketing ideas?
Hrmmmmmmmmmmmm?

These rinse and repeat contest threads are ooooooooooold.

I want peace on earth for christmas too.

[Star 69]

oh yeah and sponsors don't give a shit about who wins - bots, surfers or webmasters.

they just want to have the their thread on top for a few weeks.

I am agree with you

[Wiggles]

hhaha that is awesome, do it man!

[selena]

so next time an actual webmaster might win a contest?

That would be amazing, wouldn't it?

[Brujah]

A good contest idea might be to create your contest around actual affiliate marketing efforts. Have them designate a page as their contest entry and at the end of the contest period, the one that ranks the highest for your designated keyword phrase wins something. Maybe everyone who can get top 20 rankings wins something.

Of course .. GFY should offer a Sticky thread to it's top advertisers when they want to run a contest to help with exposure.

Instead of automatic winners for getting a certain post #.. use the post # for some other kind of incentive. It could be used for a higher revshare percentage or payout maybe.. for a set period. A bonus payout.

Attract real affiliates who want to participate and will do something for you.

[Chris]

Those contest threads attract a lot of surfers. Like good ole' "firehorse" and "born4porn."

14,000 of their 15,000 postcount are from posting in contest threads.

Other than that, it's pretty obvious the one's winning those contests are people using multiple nicks and bots. They're easy to spot too, because you'll see 3 or 4 nicks all registered on the same day like 1 year ago, using the same exact sig, and never see those nicks in threads other than contests.

they are "partners" in the same office

[CDSmith]

Those contest threads attract a lot of surfers. Like good ole' "firehorse" and "born4porn."

14,000 of their 15,000 postcount are from posting in contest threads.

Other than that, it's pretty obvious the one's winning those contests are people using multiple nicks and bots. They're easy to spot too, because you'll see 3 or 4 nicks all registered on the same day like 1 year ago, using the same exact sig, and never see those nicks in threads other than contests.

Exactly.

Except for the inclusion of Firehorse, who I know is an actual webmaster (and a pretty good person to boot).


As for the "bots", I am quite sure many of them if not all are using that xrumer software to spam contest threads. These people must think everyone is stupid or something. What, you bot-users didn't think anyone could figure you out??

And look at the programs they have in their sigs.

I've often wondered if... ah nevermind. Of course the program itself and it's owners aren't responsible for botting a rival's contest. Right? :D

[milambur]

Ban post contests and start to sell sticky threads.

[scottybuzz]

sweet as, i may actully post in contest threads if this happens.

[Dirty F]

TD, great thread! Its time something is done to stop these surfers. I have no problem with sponsors running contests and stuff but i hate to see how theyre giving 1000's and 1000's away to non webmasters. If they really want to get rid of their money in a stupid way then give me 100pps and i'll glady send them traffic.

[Dirty F]

sweet as, i may actully post in contest threads if this happens.

Try reading the thread retard. They are actually trying to get rid of surfers.