Im bored - who thinks Will is being paid by CC to bad mouth AFF?

[Damian_Maxcash]

Im asking people who know the real history behind this.......

Not just the fake drama we have been seeing him pushing the last few months.

ClickCash have been accused of stealing 100's of times here on GFY - do a search if you dont believe me.

They stole about $700 from me - Will told me I lied - I am a lot of things but I am not a lier.

Will needs a large dose of reality......

[cones]

Not me. He seems like a decent guy and click cash rocks!

Nuf said.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Not me. He seems like a decent guy and click cash rocks!

Nuf said.

Just so you know - most of the sites on http://www.pimpresources.com/trades.htm trade to 404s.....

Nuf said.

[Brujah]

I don't think they would pay anyone to do that. I don't think you really do either.

[Damian_Maxcash]

I don't think they would pay anyone to do that. I don't think you really do either.

Stop spoiling my fun

and seriously I do think that CC are paying Will to do this.....

Why wouldnt they?

[will76]

Stop spoiling my fun

and seriously I do think that CC are paying Will to do this.....

Why wouldnt they?

You said " I have been in clickcash's pocket since day one " you piece of shit and you asked how much did they pay me. Here you accuse me again.

Show us the link, or whatever you claim to back that up. Show the proof where i have been paid 1 penny by anyone, clickcash, who the fuck ever to post about zango and AFF. On the contrary the time I have spent posting and do research about this has cost me money since it was less time i spent working.

So come on mother fucker, show me proof, don't be a pussy and try to twist this around into something else. You said i was in clickcash's pocket and they were paying me to post about AFF / Zango. Where is your proof ?

[kilotoons]

All I know is he gets rich off of CC...

[will76]

Unless you have proof otherwise, i would suggest not making that accusation. Prove me wrong, show me where I am getting paid by anyone to post about AFF and zango.

I know it is hard for you to believe that the shear fact that when I was clicking on my clickcash links my traffic was going to AFF was enough for me to be pissed off about this and cause me to make it public. No, now way, AFF hijacking my traffic via zango wouldn't make me mad It's all a big conspiracy for me to smear AFF, yeah thats it. I must have made AFF use zango, and force Lars to post like a jack ass so I could smear him. The truth is out, will76 made AFF use zango so he could be paid by clickcash to smear AFF. Damn Damian, nothing gets by you, you one smart cat

[will76]

Damian, I can keep 2 threads going, hell I can keep more than that, you have more you would like to start. I am sure your buddy Lars is loving all this attention. After laying low for 4 months here you are making both of these threads practically a sticky.

[Damian_Maxcash]

........ Where is your proof ?

If you can put 2 + 2 together you know the answer.

I cant believe you are still fighting it.

[will76]

If you can put 2 + 2 together you know the answer.

I cant believe you are still fighting it.

nope, i can't put 2 + 2 together, so show us.

Come on, show us.... it is so simple as 2 + 2 then show us.

[will76]

Incase anyone missed it, since Damian wants to bring all of this up again:

AFF/CAMS = uses Zango
ClickCash = does not use zango and will ban affiliates who do.

First of all I am just an affiliate for their company. I do not own clickcash, I do not work there. This is not an "offical" ClickCash press release or anything of the sorts, just my own words on the issue.

When this problem came about they were the first ones I talked to. I have had a GREAT relationship with them over the last 5 years. It has been a very profitable relationship for both of us and we value each other on a business and personal level.

When they told me they were working on it I believed them. I know they were working on this from several different ways. I didn't not expect Lars and AFF to understand this or anyone else here that does not do business with them to understand this. Even those of you who do not do business with clickcash or do not like them for that matter knows they take complaints seriously and will invistigate and shut down account using shaddy tactics. Obviously there was a reason why the scumware accounts weren't shut down day one. This wasn't like someone was doing email spam and they just yank the plug, this was something new to them. Instead of just terminating the account, they were investigating this and looking for a long term solution to a new problem for them.

With that said, .... All clickcash accounts using zango/scumware have been terminated. If you find anyone using ifriends/clickcash on zango etc.. please clickcash the screen shots and copy the info in the cookie and send it to them. This is not going to be open season for bogus complaints, so don't even try to make complaints about the guy who is out biding you on adwards because you want him out of your way. They will investigate every complaint inside and out to determine if it is legit or not and I think it will be easy to tell which is legit and which is bogus.




Also take notice on the browser on the TOS page. Even though Clickcash is doing everything it can to stop scumware and help all of us (name another sponsor who has shut down accounts for doing this?) On the browser of the damn TOS page, AFF is still advertisering there. This pathetic. Clickcash shuts down the person, and AFF is still doing their part.

BTW. Once the clickcash account is TOS'ed, their cookie will not be set. For those of you who promote clickcash, if the idiot using clickcash on zango doesn't notice this right away, it wont hurt you. It isn't like his cookie is still being set and going over you yours and his account is still getting the sale. That wouldn't be cool either, then his account would get the sale, which in that case he doesn't get paid for being TOS'ed and ClickCash keeps your money. I am sure ClickCash could have set the programming up this way, but they did not. They make sure when a person is TOS'ed his cookie is not set. In this case your sufer would close the TOS window and continue on to yoursite and only your cookie would have been set, therefore you still make the sale.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to contact me.

This was never about Will76 vs Lars. This has always been about me vs Scumware. ClickCash has been working with me since day 1 on this, they have been very responsive and understanding to my concerns and the damage this could do to all of us. However I could not always post the details of what they were working on and what they were doing. Unfortunetly some of you jumped on the Lars bandwagon that I was a hypocrite. Thats fine, call me what you want. At the end of the day I want scumware gone, i don't care if i am leading the charge or not involved at all, end result, I want it to stop taking money from me.

thanks for the opportunity to remind people Damian, I am sure you make your buddy Lars proud!

[tenderobject]

hmmm i don't think this is a good thread

[Damian_Maxcash]

hmmm i don't think this is a good thread

I can look after myself

[Evil Doer]

If you can put 2 + 2 together you know the answer.

I cant believe you are still fighting it.

Great job proving your accusations

BTW, thanks Will for contributing on your OWN time.

[Aussie Rebel]

Unless you have proof of this, post it or shut the fuck up, bottom line is AFF is using Zango and fucking there affiliates, And that has been proven.

[jasonir]

I can look after myself

yeah you're really proving it

[will76]

Great job proving your accusations

BTW, thanks Will for contributing on your OWN time.

No problem. I have given at least 40+ hours over this whole zango spyware aff shit. Not only has it cost me money like everyone else but I am sure my own sales suffered from the time I put trying to bring this issue to everyone's attention.

That is why it burns my ass when someone is going to make up a baseless accusation WITH NO PROOF, that I was paid to do this. That totally underminds everything I have done if I would have done it for money. Like I said it fucking cost me money to do this. I have never been paid a penny by anyone to do this. If someone has proof then show it, if not shut the fuck up with your 2 +2 shit and your "everyone knows this comments ".

My reputation is impeckable, find one person who can say I cheated them scammed them, stole from them etc.. I have never and will never be bought off by anyone. Unlike some people here I don't have a price. I know I am going to get the " you think your shit don't stink, and the holier than thou " comments for making these statements. whatever, if doing the right thing is such a big deal and gets you criticized then i welcome the criticism.

However I will not accept false accusations.

[Damian_Maxcash]

yeah you're really proving it

What one of Will's whores are you?

The thing is that ClickCash stole from most of us here - and Will has been sent to convince us otherwise.

Its not some fantacy that Will has dreamt up - its a fact that has been proven again and again here on GFY.

ClickCash will not come on here and defend themselves - and this is going back 5 or more years.

So they got "Will" to do it for them. He can deny anything to do with them yet still gets paid a small fortune by them.

You do the math.

[will76]

What one of Will's whores are you?

The thing is that ClickCash stole from most of us here - and Will has been sent to convince us otherwise.

Its not some fantacy that Will has dreamt up - its a fact that has been proven again and again here on GFY.

ClickCash will not come on here and defend themselves - and this is going back 5 or more years.

So they got "Will" to do it for them. He can deny anything to do with them yet still gets paid a small fortune by them.

You do the math.

most of us here ? considering there is probably 10K+++ people on GFY, i would assume most of us = more than 5K people, How about you name 20 ?


Why you trying to spin this thread?????


This thread is about you thinking Clickcash paid me to bash AFF, not that you think clickcash screwed you or anyone else.

FYI, Clickcash has never posted on a message board. Considering GFY was up and running for 3 years before I started posting here, i guess they were a little late sending me ?


Damain, any saine person whould have dropped this thread by now, it back fired in your face. With the exception of a fake nick or some AFF supporter droping in I doubt any future posters will agree with you either.

you are digging your hole deeper and deeper with this accusations about me and making yourself look more and more like an ass (not that is any different then usual).

most people go away when a thread backfires on them you give new meaning to the word stupidity.

[will76]

BTW... this message is sponsored by Damian:


ADULTFRIENDFINDER USES ZANGO!!!


thank Daimian for keeping us informed

[will76]

Damian's proof:

You do the math.

Use the search here.

[Damian_Maxcash]

most of us here ? considering there is probably 10K+++ people on GFY, i would assume most of us = more than 5K people, How about you name 20 ?


Why you trying to spin this thread?????


This thread is about you thinking Clickcash paid me to bash AFF, not that you think clickcash screwed you or anyone else.

FYI, Clickcash has never posted on a message board. Considering GFY was up and running for 3 years before I started posting here, i guess they were a little late sending me ?


Damain, any saine person whould have dropped this thread by now, it back fired in your face. With the exception of a fake nick or some AFF supporter droping in I doubt any future posters will agree with you either.

you are digging your hole deeper and deeper with this accusations about me and making yourself look more and more like an ass (not that is any different then usual).

most people go away when a thread backfires on them you give new meaning to the word stupidity.

It "backfires" when you have it all your own way - I wont let that happen.

You need someone to keep you in check. You will bump this thread if I am here or not - its what you are being paid for.

Clickcash will keep paying you for it.

[will76]

It "backfires" when you have it all your own way - I wont let that happen.

You need someone to keep you in check. You will bump this thread if I am here or not - its what you are being paid for.

Clickcash will keep paying you for it.

I can't wait to see you get banned.


Where is your proof ?

[will76]

damian do you agree or not agree that you are lose sales because of AFF using zango ?

[Damian_Maxcash]

damian do you agree or not agree that you are lose sales because of AFF using zango ?

Come on Will - I know I have a pro team that wont term my account because my sales dont perform as well as they would like - they take the rough with the smooth.

You on the other hand cant say the same with a str8 face.

[will76]

Come on Will - I know I have a pro team that wont term my account because my sales dont perform as well as they would like - they take the rough with the smooth.

You on the other hand cant say the same with a str8 face.

wtf are you talking about?


You said i was paid off by clickcash to post on GFY and to bash AFF... everythign else is just clutter.

is your own thread confusing you ?

I am just waiting for a mod to wake up so you will be banned. I am sure it will be soon enough.

[will76]

damian do you agree or not agree that you are lose sales because of AFF using zango ?

oh wait you did answer is in ICQ:

Will76 (02:09 AM) :
hey do you think you lose sales because of zango when you promote AFF ?
damian2001 (02:11 AM) :
Maybe I do - but I get a check every month from AFF - CC on the other hand lied point blank to my face and wouldnt pay me a cent..... You cant argue with that Will.


WOW, so you use a company that you know is zango and is costing people money including yourself, and you come on here to bash me for pointing this out to people .... you have to be the most stupid person on the earth.

[will76]

What a retard.

Damian knows zango is bad, he knows AFF uses them, he knows everyone, including himself loses sales because of this, but he wants to attack me and make up lies about me for pointing out what him and everyone else already knows.

[Damian_Maxcash]

wtf are you talking about?


You said i was paid off by clickcash to post on GFY and to bash AFF... everythign else is just clutter.

is your own thread confusing you ?

I am just waiting for a mod to wake up so you will be banned. I am sure it will be soon enough.

So CC didnt steal from me?

The 100's of posts that say they steal are in my favour.


Sorry Will - you lose.

[will76]

So CC didnt steal from me?

The 100's of posts that say they steal are in my favour.


Sorry Will - you lose.

WTF ? do i look like i own clickcash, have access to your file, or I am jesus christ.

how in the hell with 100% certainty can i tell you yes or no when I don't have access to that information.


you on the other hand have jack shit for proof but yet you want to post lies that Clickcash is paying me to post on GFY and to bash AFF.

You can say what you want about clickcash. make up lies about them, they can sue you if they choose but don;t make up fucking lies about me because you are mad at them.

[wyldworx]

who fucking cares, we are all getting rich from some poor fuckers misery, and if will is getting paid, then well done mate, where do I sign up!

[Damian_Maxcash]

WTF ? do i look like i own clickcash, have access to your file, or I am jesus christ.

how in the hell with 100% certainty can i tell you yes or no when I don't have access to that information.


you on the other hand have jack shit for proof but yet you want to post lies that Clickcash is paying me to post on GFY and to bash AFF.

You can say what you want about clickcash. make up lies about them, they can sue you if they choose but don;t make up fucking lies about me because you are mad at them.

I have all the proof I need you fucking idiot. They didnt pay me the money they owed me - the only prog that has ever ripped me off.

My word is my proof - can you say the same? - I doubt it, you are tied up too far with those liers........

[wyldworx]

who fucking cares everyone has a price, i can't wait to see yours you dick.

[will76]

I have all the proof I need you fucking idiot. They didnt pay me the money they owed me - the only prog that has ever ripped me off.

My word is my proof - can you say the same? - I doubt it, you are tied up too far with those liers........

PROOF that they paid me off JESUS CHRIST, you can't be that stupid.

Everytime i mention the lies you are making about me being paid off you reply back about how clickcash closed your account.


What proof do you have that CLickcash paid me to post on GFY and to bash AFF ?

[wyldworx]

PROOF that they paid me off JESUS CHRIST, you can't be that stupid.

Everytime i mention the lies you are making about me being paid off you reply back about how clickcash closed your account.


What proof do you have that CLickcash paid me to post on GFY and to bash AFF ?

I am waiting with baited breath...

[will76]

I am waiting with baited breath...

waiting for ? proof from daimian.... his proof is : " 2 + 2 " and " go do a search"

you going to be waiting a looooong time for damian to provide proof, eternity....

[will76]

the same with a str8 face.

what are we 7th grade school girls now ? 4real, uBcool!

str8 face?

omg, where is your proof that clickcash pays me to post on GFY and to bash AFF ???

[wyldworx]

I have eternity to hold my judgements of others when it is most likely I only see it because I do it. Wheres the proof you fucking knob, and by the way, I don't know will, I am one who beleives in standing by your convictions and accepting reality. The proof, or shut the fuck up. Once again, I have nothing to do with this guy.

[jonpotz]

I've never had a problem with AFF. See SIG.

[CDSmith]

Damian, you know I do like a lot of what you have to say, but on this thread I'm sorry but you're being ridiculous, and I'm pretty sure you know it. The better and bigger question here is, how can you not see that AFF's involvement with Zango is utterly and completely self-serving and detrimental to the rest of us?

How?

The only reason I can see for supporting such behavior is that you are recieving paychecks from them and don't want your source of income damaged... understandible, but it's a stance that I simply don't agree with.

Will has his moments of going a bit overboard on certain threads as well, but on this issue for the most part he is dead nuts on the money and in the right. The zango business model is a detriment to everyone's business (even yours), thus any company who supports it is subborning that detriment. I don't see where there's room to argue that point.

Anyway, carry on, and good night. (3:25 am here)

:D

[will76]

yeah that and how can this mother fucker get away with making baseless accusations about me????

I am really pissed off that someone can make up shit like this and get away with it. I hope the mods here haven't seen this yet and when they do they will do something about it.

Damian has lot of issues here. If he doesn't like Clickcash fine. But that gives him no right to make up lies about me. Or perhaps he is trying to pull a Lars tactic, discredit the messenger to discredit the message.

Whatever his reasons for making up these lies about me, he should be demanded to provide proof or be banned.

I don't care if you call my mother a whore, say i have a small dick, or my wife is ugly, but don't make up lies about me to try to damange my business and reputation.

[Antonio]

Damian, you know I do like a lot of what you have to say, but on this thread I'm sorry but you're being ridiculous, and I'm pretty sure you know it. The better and bigger question here is, how can you not see that AFF's involvement with Zango is utterly and completely self-serving and detrimental to the rest of us?

How?

The only reason I can see for supporting such behavior is that you are recieving paychecks from them and don't want your source of income damaged... understandible, but it's a stance that I simply don't agree with.

Will has his moments of going a bit overboard on certain threads as well, but on this issue for the most part he is dead nuts on the money and in the right. The zango business model is a detriment to everyone's business (even yours), thus any company who supports it is subborning that detriment. I don't see where there's room to argue that point.

Anyway, carry on, and good night. (3:25 am here)

:D

just out of curiousity - lets say you get about 3k a month from AFF in rebills, you know their TOS states that if you stop sending traffic you'll lose your rebills

Would you drop them? I mean that's at least $50 000.00 you're going to lose?
would you still drop them?

[wyldworx]

Damian, you know I do like a lot of what you have to say, but on this thread I'm sorry but you're being ridiculous, and I'm pretty sure you know it. The better and bigger question here is, how can you not see that AFF's involvement with Zango is utterly and completely self-serving and detrimental to the rest of us?

How?

The only reason I can see for supporting such behavior is that you are recieving paychecks from them and don't want your source of income damaged... understandible, but it's a stance that I simply don't agree with.

Will has his moments of going a bit overboard on certain threads as well, but on this issue for the most part he is dead nuts on the money and in the right. The zango business model is a detriment to everyone's business (even yours), thus any company who supports it is subborning that detriment. I don't see where there's room to argue that point.

Anyway, carry on, and good night. (3:25 am here)

:D

as always, you seem to crack wide open that can of grubby worms. The door truly does swing both ways.

[CDSmith]

just out of curiousity - lets say you get about 3k a month from AFF in rebills, you know their TOS states that if you stop sending traffic you'll lose your rebills

Would you drop them? I mean that's at least $50 000.00 you're going to lose?
would you still drop them?

Well... does their TOS say they'll take away your rebills if you stop sending them traffic?

If so, I doubt I'd have started promoting a company like that in the first place. My traffic is mine to do with as I please. So too are my rebills, or at least the sponsors I do promote think so. (I don't promote AFF, never have)

But for the sake of argument it's the way you're saying. Then I suppose I would gradually decrease my traffic to them, NOT sacrifice my rebills, and begin sending more and more of that traffic to a program that I know doesn't knowingly and willfully support the Zangos of the world.

But what I would NOT do is go on the boards defending actions I know are obviously wrong and not worth defending, income or no income.

[Antonio]

and as for will69 - kudos to him for exposing the whole Zango shit, but there's no doubt that he's biased

a few years ago there were gazillion of threads from guys that got their accounts at clickcash closed, of course a shitload of them were mailing/running chat bots etc, but a lot of them were straight shooters, so what clickash did then is questionable to say the least

[Antonio]

Well... does their TOS say they'll take away your rebills if you stop sending them traffic?

If so, I doubt I'd have started promoting a company like that in the first place. My traffic is mine to do with as I please. So too are my rebills, or at least the sponsors I do promote think so. (I don't promote AFF, never have)

But for the sake of argument it's the way you're saying. Then I suppose I would gradually decrease my traffic to them, NOT sacrifice my rebills, and begin sending more and more of that traffic to a program that I know doesn't knowingly and willfully support the Zangos of the world.

But what I would NOT do is go on the boards defending actions I know are obviously wrong and not worth defending, income or no income.

the TOS don't say exaclty - "no traffic, no rebills" but there's something like " we reserve the right and so on". Also, I've never heard of them enforcing it either but I personally wouldn't take the chance.

well, thanks for the honest answer

[will76]

You need someone to keep you in check. You will bump this thread if I am here or not - its what you are being paid for.

Clickcash will keep paying you for it.

Someone needs to keep me in check ?

AFF is using zango, and you are here posting that someone needs to keep me in check


Just wanted to point out again, that you said ClickCash is paying me to post on GFY. and you have proof of this right ?

[will76]

just out of curiousity - lets say you get about 3k a month from AFF in rebills, you know their TOS states that if you stop sending traffic you'll lose your rebills

Would you drop them? I mean that's at least $50 000.00 you're going to lose?
would you still drop them?

WTF? if you stop sending traffic you lose your rebills ?

[Jace]

i don't think he is being paid by CC, no way

he is just like me, when he gets going on a tangent or topic he feels strongly about, he sees it through and doesn't let up...I am the same way, when i feel strongly about something I raise my voice and make sure everyone hears me no matter how annoying I get