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  • Voodoo
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    • Sep 2002
    • 10600

    #1

    I am Officially Lowering all Talent Rates Industry Wide (See Inside)...

    Due to the neverending saturation of the Adult Marketplace, to help companies realize ROI a little sooner from their investments, I am officially reducing all talent rates as indicated by the pricing structure below...

    The following is the Official Talent Rate Chart for the Adult Industry:
    Female Rates:
    B/G = $100
    Anal = $120
    G/G = $20
    Solo = $5
    Oral = $20
    Toys = $5

    Male Rates:
    B/G = $100
    B/B = Inquire
    Solo = $5
    Oral = N/A
    Anal = N/A

    Do not overpay anymore. These are the Official Rates.

    Regards,
    Voodoo

    "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."
  • MeganS
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2004
    • 1487

    #2
    Wow! ... i have been waiting for someone to do this.

    Looks like i can eat chicken this week at SW LOL

    xoxo,
    Megan
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    • Tanker
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      • Nov 2000
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      #3
      Nice! hahha

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      • B O B
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        • Dec 2002
        • 2664

        #4
        nice work Voo

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        • tony299
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          • Aug 2002
          • 57021

          #5
          bravo good rates lol

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          • tranza
            ICQ: 197-556-237
            • Jun 2003
            • 57559

            #6
            Lol, $5 for solo??
            I'm just a newbie.

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            • BOSS1
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              • Sep 2005
              • 4331

              #7
              what baout combinations like GGGB/ anal ?

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              • Redmanthatcould
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                • Dec 2006
                • 2771

                #8
                Can we pay in beer instead?

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                • Barefootsies
                  Choice is an Illusion
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 42635

                  #9
                  Should You Email Your Members?

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                  Enough Said.

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                  • Barefootsies
                    Choice is an Illusion
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 42635

                    #10
                    Originally posted by VS_Jeff
                    Can we pay in beer instead?
                    They were paid in cocaine back in the 70's, so give it a whirl. Although you'd probably have to pay them in ice now a days.

                    Should You Email Your Members?

                    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                    Enough Said.

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                    • Voodoo
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                      • Sep 2002
                      • 10600

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BOSS1
                      what baout combinations like GGGB/ anal ?
                      GGGB = He pays you $300
                      Anal = N/A (Male)

                      "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                      • RayBonga
                        too cool for highschool
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 12164

                        #12
                        The unions will kill you

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                        • OldJeff
                          Big Fucking hahahaha
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 2504

                          #13
                          Even at those rate, 90% of the yo-yos would not be able to finance themselves a POV blowjob
                          "As pornographers we must act responsibly! ;))"- Nickatilynx

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                          • TeenCat
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                            • Jan 2007
                            • 16131

                            #14
                            i am officially drunked, do not ovedrunk me!

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                            • CB_Voyta
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 92

                              #15
                              NOTICE: Those prices are of course how much the performer pays YOU in order to be allowed to appear in your feature. I hope nobody thought we would be paying some schmucks to have sex on camera these days...

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                              • Redmanthatcould
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 2771

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                They were paid in cocaine back in the 70's, so give it a whirl. Although you'd probably have to pay them in ice now a days.

                                I may offer my Walker, Texas Ranger DVDs (to borrow, of course), as a bartering option.

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                                • Gregory Black
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                                  • Apr 2007
                                  • 282

                                  #17
                                  Low rates just means more jackoffs picking up cameras and calling themselves "directors".

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                                  • Jace
                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 35562

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Gregory Black
                                    Low rates just means more jackoffs picking up cameras and calling themselves "directors".
                                    ha, no shit, with rates like that a bum could become a porn producer...oh wait, there already are bums as porn producers

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                                    • D
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                                      • Jan 2006
                                      • 7412

                                      #19
                                      Do we still have to supply the toys?
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                                      • Rochard
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                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 75733

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                        They were paid in cocaine back in the 70's, so give it a whirl. Although you'd probably have to pay them in ice now a days.

                                        We should bring this back!
                                        Herschel Savage
                                        Brooklyn, NY

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                                        • JohnnyPearl
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                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 425

                                          #21
                                          100$ for Male Rates for a B/G is crazy. Should be like 10$.

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                                          • Mutt
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Sep 2002
                                            • 34431

                                            #22
                                            ha you wish - the power is now in the talent's corner - there are so many websites and DVD companies now and the talent pool is small - there are girls who could jack up their rates to 3K a shoot and they would make no less - they'd work less shoots but make the same amount of money.

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                                            • Fap
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                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 12094

                                              #23
                                              Well now that it's official ill go out and buy some shots

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                                              • dodger21
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                                                #24
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                                                • g$$$
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                                                  #25
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                                                  • Jim_Gunn
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                                                    • Feb 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                                    ha you wish - the power is now in the talent's corner - there are so many websites and DVD companies now and the talent pool is small -
                                                    Mutt, the talent pool is bigger than ever in every region across the board and new girls are flooding the industry more than ever. Which makes it especially backwards and foolish the way that so many studios, and producers have been bidding up the talent rates for no reason at all the last few years. It's just so unnecessary and it only comes out of the independent producers or the studios pockets.
                                                    Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 04-17-2007, 04:25 PM.

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                                                    • stickyfingerz
                                                      Doin fine
                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                      • 24984

                                                      #27
                                                      We pay our talent with Walmart Giftcards......

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                                                      • Mutt
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 34431

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                                        Mutt, the talent pool is bigger than ever in every region across the board and new girls are flooding the industry more than ever. Which makes it especially backwards and foolish the way that so many studios, and producers have been bidding up the talent rates for no reason at all the last few years. It's just so unnecessary and it only comes out of the independent producers or the studios pockets.
                                                        i agree that the numbers in the talent pool are bigger these days BUT the ratio of girls to shooters/studios has widened. the number of people shooting porn has by far increased faster than the numbers of new talent.
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                                                        • Gregory Black
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                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                          • 282

                                                          #29
                                                          Fresh halfway decent looking girls are getting over a grand without any problem.

                                                          Several of more established girls are getting $1200.

                                                          Yeah, the pickings are pretty slim when you get an order for 20 scenes in a very specific niche. Lets say you get an order for teen hardcore scenes. I challenge any of you guys to find even 5 cute teen looking girls on the agency sites. I am talking CUTE and without white trash tats all over her. (obviously I am talking about LA and not europe)

                                                          Recruit your own you say? Ha ha, yeah sure if you fucking pay me to do it. Recruiting is a full time job and even the agents who have people on payroll recuriting all day long hardly manage to get any new girls.

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                                                          • Gregory Black
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                                                            • Apr 2007
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Mutt
                                                            i agree that the numbers in the talent pool are bigger these days BUT the ratio of girls to shooters/studios has widened. the number of people shooting porn has by far increased faster than the numbers of new talent.
                                                            Yes, yes, yes. Perfectly stated.

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                                                            • Jim_Gunn
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                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 5702

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                              i agree that the numbers in the talent pool are bigger these days BUT the ratio of girls to shooters/studios has widened. the number of people shooting porn has by far increased faster than the numbers of new talent.
                                                              Yes, but so what? This is exactly the attitude that makes these companies think- incorrectly in my opinion- that they need to compete with one another and desperately film some specific new girl of the week, today, right this minute. And therefore they pay a premium for the privilege of doing so and drive the talent rate up for everyone across the board for every girl including even the b roster and girls that have been shot 100 times and around for months.

                                                              In reality, except for rare exceptions, all these girls are essentially interchangeable within broad categories anyway, eg, teens, MILFs, ethnic types. It amazes me that others are so willing to throw their money away spending big money for every model in every scene across the board.

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                                                              • tony299
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                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 57021

                                                                #32
                                                                brother jim gunn has some good points

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                                                                • Jace
                                                                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 35562

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i would like to say that talent wised up and realized the potential of selling for each scene and the money that can be made from that one scene, but it unfortunately doesn't have to do with that at all...LOL

                                                                  if talent doesn't realize the money that can be made on each scene they are idiots, and if producers don't see the money that can be made from each scene beyond the standard means of income from that scene, then they are idiots too

                                                                  I can think of at least 7 sources of income off the top of my head from one single scene, if you are a content producer that can create high quality content on a consistent basis, you can make some pretty serious cash, and if talent ever realized this they would jack up their rates even higher

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                                                                  • Mutt
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                                                                    • Sep 2002
                                                                    • 34431

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Jim_Gunn

                                                                    In reality, except for rare exceptions, all these girls are essentially interchangeable within broad categories anyway, eg, teens, MILFs, ethnic types. It amazes me that others are so willing to throw their money away spending big money for every model in every scene across the board.
                                                                    that's where you are wrong though - the girls aren't interchangeable. the great girls, the ones who make surfers go 'Holy shit! How can a girl this cute be doing porno?!?!' sell like crazy.

                                                                    you're right in that the vast majority of girls are interchangeable and the way the biz has always been set up is that they all get the same amount for the same job (solo,b/g,g/g,anal, etc) - like in any other entertainment field the stars should make more and the journeymen should make alot less.
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                                                                    • MandyBlake
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                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 17761

                                                                      #35
                                                                      $20 for a girl/girl! oh yes! i'm rich!
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                                                                      • tony299
                                                                        lurker
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 57021

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Jace
                                                                        i would like to say that talent wised up and realized the potential of selling for each scene and the money that can be made from that one scene, but it unfortunately doesn't have to do with that at all...LOL

                                                                        if talent doesn't realize the money that can be made on each scene they are idiots, and if producers don't see the money that can be made from each scene beyond the standard means of income from that scene, then they are idiots too

                                                                        I can think of at least 7 sources of income off the top of my head from one single scene, if you are a content producer that can create high quality content on a consistent basis, you can make some pretty serious cash, and if talent ever realized this they would jack up their rates even higher
                                                                        I think you feel this way because you dont pay talent lol

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                                                                        • Jace
                                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 35562

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                          I think you feel this way because you dont pay talent lol
                                                                          you are right, all girls need to charge $100

                                                                          I have paid for talent before and have been on a budget before, and I never minded paying top dollar for certain girls that have the "it" factor

                                                                          fact remains, if a content producer doesn't know how to properly distribute his content to all channels available and make all available money that is to be made, that isn't the talents fault, it is the producers

                                                                          for instance, a web site owner that has all exclusive content should be researching ways to have his content started into a dvd line, then after that vod/pay per view...after that cable (if possible)...the money stream is endless, there are people still making money off my wife and i and we have not shot new material for dvd in 4 years, but new dvd's are always out with us in them and we are still constantly on cable....

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                                                                          • Nadia's Lair
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                                                                            • Apr 2007
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            LoL!! pretty funny
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                                                                            • ElConquistador
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                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                              • 520

                                                                              #39
                                                                              What is the going LA rate right now for a hot girl with good body, not all tatted up and fugly? What can she get for solo, girl girl, boy girl, etc.

                                                                              Last I knew it was about $500 for a 1 girl-girl scene, and maybe $7-800 for a boy-girl, and up to $1,000 or more if you wanted her to do anal or something.

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                                                                              • GigoloJustin
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                                                                                • Jan 2005
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Why even pay them! Sex is fun right?

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                                                                                • bausch
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                                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                                  • 3017

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I hears Amy Reid gets 2x the average rate. Over 2k for a scene.

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                                                                                  • davecummings
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                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                    • 2922

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    He's Right!!

                                                                                    Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                                                                    Mutt, the talent pool is bigger than ever in every region across the board and new girls are flooding the industry more than ever. Which makes it especially backwards and foolish the way that so many studios, and producers have been bidding up the talent rates for no reason at all the last few years. It's just so unnecessary and it only comes out of the independent producers or the studios pockets.

                                                                                    Jim's 100% correct.

                                                                                    Maybe agents/managers need to back off a bit, lest they raise rates of their contractees so high (thus making THEIR percentage higher) that the Industry crumbles under the weight of talent fees???


                                                                                    Dave
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                                                                                    • GhengisBong
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                                                                                      • Feb 2007
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Voodoo

                                                                                      Do not overpay anymore. These are the Official Rates.

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                                                                                      • Sebastian Sands
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                                                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                                                        • 5223

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by davecummings
                                                                                        Jim's 100% correct.

                                                                                        Maybe agents/managers need to back off a bit, lest they raise rates of their contractees so high (thus making THEIR percentage higher) that the Industry crumbles under the weight of talent fees???


                                                                                        Dave
                                                                                        Not just the agencies.some of the bigger companies over pay girls as well, they create situations where the model thinks everyone will pay this.

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                                                                                        • Red Ezra
                                                                                          redezra.com
                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                          • 4678

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          i think coupon day might be a good way to go too or double coupon day

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                                                                                          • BobG
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                                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                                            • 4274

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by davecummings
                                                                                            Jim's 100% correct.

                                                                                            Maybe agents/managers need to back off a bit, lest they raise rates of their contractees so high (thus making THEIR percentage higher) that the Industry crumbles under the weight of talent fees???


                                                                                            Dave
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                                                                                            • SleazyDream
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              are you in prague now?
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                                                                                              • Voodoo
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                                                are you in prague now?
                                                                                                Mentally, yes.

                                                                                                "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                                                                                • The Ghost
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Good discussion in this thread.
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