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Old 08-18-2007, 01:19 PM   #1
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What sponors have RSS Feeds that use content morphing?

I see the list on thesponsorfeeds website, but I am looking for more RSS feed sponsors that change the text with each new affiliate code.

What sponsors are using this with the RSS feeds?
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:21 PM   #2
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what is content morphing? Maybe I need it.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:51 PM   #4
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Old 08-18-2007, 02:04 PM   #5
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what is content morphing? Maybe I need it.
changing the text so the blog is unique and the search engines will not think its duplicate content.

I would rather pull feeds from sponsors that give me unique text.
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www.feedpushers.com

our feeds change on EVERY pull

http://rss.breabennett.com/
http://rss.rightofftheboat.com/

hit refresh on those a few times

if any sponsors are interested in this hit me up 102893553
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Why not just "morph" it on your end?
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The world fist affiliate program that offered morphing feeds was Real-Bucks.com. By now, morphing feeds is not a rare thing because may programs do offer them. You may find a list of some good ones here: http://www.thesponsorfeeds.com/ - just scroll the page down to the The Sponsor Feeds in Action section.

Those affiliate programs that have no morphing feeds yet may like to check our solution:


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Why not just "morph" it on your end?
That is possible as well, but not all the blog owners know how to do that
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cyberseo doesnt work with autobloggerpro so Its hard to morph alot of the content.
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Old 08-19-2007, 04:15 AM   #14
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cyberseo doesnt work with autobloggerpro so Its hard to morph alot of the content.
A bit wrong info there CyberSEO does work with WordPress because it's a WordPress plugin

Actually there are 2 versions of CyberSEO:

1) A stand-alone plugin which morphs your blog posts on the fly every time when your blog is opened in browser. It doesn't matter how exactly your posts were added to blog (e.g. if they were syndicated by feedwordpress, wp-o-matic, autobloggerpro or they even were created manually). This version of CyberSEO will morph everything regardless the ways your content came to your blog. But it has some serious disadvantage - as far as it works on the fly, your blog's loading speed will be decreased.

2) Another version of CyberSEO is delivered as an add-on to popular freeware feed-pulling plugins: feedwordpress and wp-o-matic (yes, autobloggerpro IS NOT supported). This version of CyberSEO won't modify your existing blog posts, but all the new ones that syndicated by feedwordpress or wp-o-matic plugins will be morphed. There is no problems with speed etc - your blog will run as fast as it run without CyberSEO. The only "disadvantage" there is that you have to use it with feedwordpress or wp-o-matic plugins only.

You can test/use the 2nd version of CyberSEO for FREE at http://www.rbbloggers.com/ - there you will see how it easy in use, fast and powerful.
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:05 AM   #16
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A bit wrong info there CyberSEO does work with WordPress because it's a WordPress plugin
I said cyberseo didnt work with autobloggerpro. I wish it did. I know that it can be morphed on the fly, but the site would be snails pace.
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I said cyberseo didnt work with autobloggerpro. I wish it did. I know that it can be morphed on the fly, but the site would be snails pace.
Yep, is was a bit wrong statement, because you said the exactly following: "cyberseo doesnt work with autobloggerpro so Its hard to morph alot of the content."

1) "cyberseo doesnt work with autobloggerpro" - not really correct because CyberSEO is a WordPress plugin, but not an add-on for autobloggerpro. It doesn't matter which feed-pulling script you were using - autobloggerpro, feedwordpress or anything else. The stand-alone version of CyberSEO will work with a blog that uses autobloggerpro. The only problem is that on-the-fly version consumes some additional server resources and makes your blog load slower.
2) "so Its hard to morph alot of the content" - also a bit wrong. It's not hard to morph a lot of content, it just will slow down your blog loading time (say for about 0.5-1sec). However this comment can be applied to a stand-alone version only. There is another version of CyberSEO which is integrated with popular freeware feedwordpress and wp-o-matic plugins and it doesn't affect your blog's loading speed at all. So is absolutely NOT hard to morph a lot of the content with with CyberSEO feedwordpress or wp-o-matic editions
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cyberxxx, what are the technical reasons why it wouldn't work with autoblogger? Can't feeds be morphed when they are sent via xml-rpc? I mean, sure the post wouldn't get updated every time you update the synonyms but that would be better than nothing.

Also, with a plug-in like wp-cache wouldn't that alleviate the load times if you had the cache set to expire every 4-6 hours?
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cyberxxx, what are the technical reasons why it wouldn't work with autoblogger?
As I said above there are NO technical reasons for that. The stand-alone version of CyberSEO works with ANY feed-pulling scripts INCLUDING autobloggerpro. The only problem is that stand-alone version of CyberSEO plugin works on-the-fly and slows down the blog loading speed, so it's not a great solution for blogs with huge traffic on them.

However we also offer another version of CyberSEO plugin which doesn't work on the fly. It is integrated into freeware wp-o-matic and feedwordpress plugins. It morphs the feeds only then they are being pulled, so it doesn't affect your blog's loading speed at all. But there is no integrated version for autoblogger, because it's a commercial software that belong to another company. autoblogger is not a GPL product like feedwordpress so we can't modify it w/o its author's permission. That could be clear IMHO.

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Also, with a plug-in like wp-cache wouldn't that alleviate the load times if you had the cache set to expire every 4-6 hours?
As far as I know the plugins like wp-cache do not affect on WP cntent fitering functions which are used in a stand-alone version of CyberSEO. So the best way to use our plugin is to use it with wp-o-matic or feedwordpress.
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I'm not suggesting you modify autoblogger. I am talking about making the wordpress plugin replace words ONLY when a post is made. It doesn't need to happen every time you update the synonyms IMO.
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I'm not suggesting you modify autoblogger.
I said I can't do that due to legal reasons. However what's a prob with freeware feed-pulling plugins? Any problems with feedwordpress of wp-o-matic?

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I am talking about making the wordpress plugin replace words ONLY when a post is made. It doesn't need to happen every time you update the synonyms IMO.
So that's what the wp-o-matic and feedwordpress versions of CyberSEO actually do
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I said I can't do that due to legal reasons. However what's a prob with freeware feed-pulling plugins? Any problems with feedwordpress of wp-o-matic?



So that's what the wp-o-matic and feedwordpress versions of CyberSEO actually do
Nevermind. You clearly don't understand English.
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Nevermind. You clearly don't understand English.
Ah, sorry I've really read your 1st sentence as "I'm suggesting you modify autoblogger." - my bad.

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My problem is that I already use rss2blog and am about to start using ABP. I don't need another script submitting feeds for me. What I would love to see is a WP plugin that would morph the content before the post is entered into mysql.

So:
1. Post is sent to WP via autoblogger or whatever.
2. WP plugin modifies content of the post
3. Post is saved into the site's WP MySQL database.

Would something like that be possible?
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My problem is that I already use rss2blog and am about to start using ABP. I don't need another script submitting feeds for me. What I would love to see is a WP plugin that would morph the content before the post is entered into mysql.

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1. Post is sent to WP via autoblogger or whatever.
2. WP plugin modifies content of the post
3. Post is saved into the site's WP MySQL database.

Would something like that be possible?
I got your though, but as far as I know it isn't possible to be dome by regular WP plugin because there are no WP API hooks for that. Of course it could be easily implemented by means of some changes in WordPress code, but it will be a hack. This is not a good way to go for sure, because it will cause a lot of compatibility problems...
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wp-o-matic is lacking features. Maybe I havent seen them. But it seems to me that the relink, header footer, is not available in the wp-o-matic plugin. ABPro has all these features.

I like the cyberseo program, but why use wp-o-matic when you cant even add header and footer deatils. ABP does that, but ABP takes to much time to create all the "change text" options in the campaign.

Babaganoosh, and I are on the same page. We are either asking ABP to integrate cyberseo or get wp-o-matic to get all the same features as ABP.

We want to morph the content using the Synonym Table using ABPro, but not the morph on the fly. Morph the one time the post is added and then its done.
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SNL, this is a question for ABP team. I can't do that w/o their permission. If they'll agree - why not?
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I've been dicking with the WP code today and I have something sort of working. The regex I am using isn't really the best but I can clean that up later. The feed is morphed before it gets inserted into mysql so the posts unfortunately won't be updated if you change your synonyms list.

I was thinking of making the script only morph posts that contain special characters. It's no problem to make ABP append a special string to a post like &#37;%MORPH%% to trigger the scripts morph function. That way if you're using something like feedpusher your feeds won't get morphed twice resulting in gibberish and unnecessary server load.
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It's for lazy affiliates that want the sponsor/program owner to do all the work for them.
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We want to morph the content using the Synonym Table using ABPro, but not the morph on the fly. Morph the one time the post is added and then its done.
I agree that morphing on the fly is kind of a silly way to do things. A couple of thoughts:

1) You're constantly changing the text, by the time Google-bot grabs it and indexes it, it's already changed. I had a conversation with them at the AdTech conference in NYC regarding this, and they said they're planning to specifically penalize sites that work this way -- that's why we haven't done it "on the fly" in Autoblogger Pro. We don't want to harm our user base, and we take the time to investigate features before putting them out willy-nilly.

2) Sponsors morphing "on the fly" using WordPress is a little ... I dunno, cobbled together with super glue and bubble gum, wouldn't you say? I personally wouldn't pull those feeds. That's why we created Feed Pushers. Now that Reality Cash and other sponsors have begun to use it, Feed Pushers is ideally paired with a tool like Autoblogger Pro to provide "once-morphed" feeds and then post them out. If you need a specific sponsor to have Feed Pushers feeds, drop them and myself an ICQ, and we'll work something out.


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I was thinking of making the script only morph posts that contain special characters. It's no problem to make ABP append a special string to a post like %%MORPH%% to trigger the scripts morph function. That way if you're using something like feedpusher your feeds won't get morphed twice resulting in gibberish and unnecessary server load.
Great idea. To me, nothing beats a hand-written morph akin to Feed Pushers. It makes sense every time you read it, and Google eats it up (look at the results on pages 1 and 2 for the feeds affiliates have already pulled).

ICQ me if you want to collaborate on something along these lines. I'd be happy to work with the existing ABP code-base to accommodate better morphing integration, and I can already see from our previous ICQ conversations that your ideas will be valuable in this area. And you understand English -- big plus!
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It's for lazy affiliates that want the sponsor/program owner to do all the work for them.
I disagree with you categorizing them as lazy. If tools like Feed Pushers and Autoblogger Pro can give you a unique post automatically sent to your blog every update, are you "lazy" for using them or simply inefficient for NOT using them? I guess I'm just not a fan of doing work for the sake of doing work, especially if the results are the same or better.
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It's for lazy affiliates that want the sponsor/program owner to do all the work for them.
actually, that isn't really true at all

while I think morphing feeds are great, I also use a morphing plugin in my blog also....so, the morphing the sponsor does is just an added bonus
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1) You're constantly changing the text, by the time Google-bot grabs it and indexes it, it's already changed. had a conversation with them at the AdTech conference in NYC regarding this, and they said they're planning to specifically penalize sites that work this way -- that's why we haven't done it "on the fly" in Autoblogger Pro.
That's actually not correct The stand-alone version of CyberSEO morphs the blog's content on-the-fly but the changed text REMAINES THE SAME every time you load the blog. The changes apply according to an unique blog's ID. So they are different for various blogs, but they are the same for a same blog and it doesn't matter how many times you (or Google) open it. The same applies to TheSponsorFeeds plugin - where morphed feeds are the same for a fixed webmaster ID. So there will be no penalty for that.

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I We don't want to harm our user base, and we take the time to investigate features before putting them out willy-nilly.
The same thing here. We have implemented a fixed morphing model in the CyberSEO and the TheSponsorFeeds plugins in the first releases

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2) Sponsors morphing "on the fly" using WordPress is a little ... I dunno, cobbled together with super glue and bubble gum, wouldn't you say? I personally wouldn't pull those feeds. That's why we created Feed Pushers. Now that Reality Cash and other sponsors have begun to use it, Feed Pushers is ideally paired with a tool like Autoblogger Pro to provide "once-morphed" feeds and then post them out. If you need a specific sponsor to have Feed Pushers feeds, drop them and myself an ICQ, and we'll work something out.
As far as I know, the feedpushers has a problem with that because it changes the feeds every time you are pulling them. Just reload this link a few time to see what I mean: http://rss.breabennett.com/feed.php?feed_id=6

I personally wouldn't pull those feeds

The CyberSEO and TheSponsorFeeds plugins have no such a problem. Look at this: http://demo.thesponsorfeeds.com/?wm=252 - you may reload/pull this feed as many times as you want and it won't change The same related to any other webmaster ID's:
http://demo.thesponsorfeeds.com/?wm=3621
http://demo.thesponsorfeeds.com/?wm=bla-bla-bla
http://demo.thesponsorfeeds.com/?wm=another_id

All these feeds are unique for according to the given webmaster ID's, but they do not change on the each reload. So webmasters can use them not only on blogs but on "static" HTML pages as well and don't worry about possible SE penalty for changing content

We are selling our plugins for a long time and have many customers, so of course we are worried about our product's quality and sure we'd never release any RSS solution which morphs every time when you pull it using the same webmaster id. Our customers are not enemies to Google, and we are not enemies to our customers
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As far as I know, the feedpushers has a problem with that because it changes the feeds every time you are pulling them. Just reload this link a few time to see what I mean: http://rss.breabennett.com/feed.php?feed_id=6

I personally wouldn't pull those feeds
Why is that a problem? You should only be pulling the particular post once at which time it would become static within your blog.
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Why is that a problem? You should only be pulling the particular post once at which time it would become static within your blog.
it isn't a problem, he is just trying to make it one

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Why is that a problem? You should only be pulling the particular post once at which time it would become static within your blog.
Not exactly.
1) Feedwordpress updates the feeds every time then they are pulled. So if they change, they will be changed on the blog. Such a blog will be penaltized by Google as edgeprod said above.
2) Some affiliate use the RSS feeds on blog's sidebars and even on HRM pages using on-the-fly pulling scripts like RSS2HTML etc. These pages will be also penalized.

edgeprod, I hope you'll implement our idea and fix http://rss.breabennett.com/feed.php?feed_id=6 to make it work like http://demo.thesponsorfeeds.com to produce THE SAME content for a particular webmaster id. You are welcome in case if you decide to say "thanks" for the idea
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:21 PM   #37
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1) Feedwordpress updates the feeds every time then they are pulled. So if they change, they will be changed on the blog. Such a blog will be penaltized by Google as edgeprod said above.
feedwordpress is a horrible solution for pulling feeds, anyone using it isn't serious about their work
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:21 PM   #38
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it isn't a problem, he is just trying to make it one

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Who is "he"? edgeprod? Read his post please:
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1) You're constantly changing the text, by the time Google-bot grabs it and indexes it, it's already changed. I had a conversation with them at the AdTech conference in NYC regarding this, and they said they're planning to specifically penalize sites that work this way -- that's why we haven't done it "on the fly" in Autoblogger Pro.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:23 PM   #39
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Anything that can give you a unique feed is fantastic.

Feed Pushers definitely helps sponsors do that. There may be other methods as well.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:24 PM   #40
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What's wrong with feedwordpress? I'm using it almost on ALL my blogs (I just a few ones that use wp-o-matic) and haven't got any problem with that. Perhaps you could tell me about those "issues" with feedwordpress.
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Not exactly.
1) Feedwordpress updates the feeds every time then they are pulled. So if they change, they will be changed on the blog. Such a blog will be penaltized by Google as edgeprod said above.
2) Some affiliate use the RSS feeds on blog's sidebars and even on HRM pages using on-the-fly pulling scripts like RSS2HTML etc. These pages will be also penalized.
I don't use those scripts. I use ABP and rss2b on some older projects.
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:28 PM   #42
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you may reload/pull this feed as many times as you want and it won't change All these feeds are unique for according to the given webmaster ID's, but they do not change on the each reload.
Ouch!

Unfortunately, try as you might to spread disinformation (and you've been, laughably, called on it so many times in this thread), you fail.

I feel bad for you that the content doesn't change on every reload. If I'm a webmaster, building 10 sites, this'd suck for me -- I'd get screwed with duplicate content on my blogs 2-10.

Sorry if you wish you ripped off Feed Pushers the "right" way ... but clearly your cheap rip-off just isn't getting it done.

I'm not going to get into a back-and-forth, sorry, just needed to clear up your misinformation.

It's funny, though, how you play "dumb" (see your post to Jace, asking who he was talking to, when he's clearly quoting you, rofl .. but it's kind of sad, I'm beginning to think it isn't an "act" ...

I'd be careful calling out Reality Cash and saying that their solution is somehow inferior, though. Tsk, tsk!
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What's wrong with feedwordpress? I'm using it almost on ALL my blogs (I just a few ones that use wp-o-matic) and haven't got any problem with that. Perhaps you could tell me about those "issues" with feedwordpress.
rofl, go figure, a "programmer" that doesn't know about the issues feedwordpress has, NO! hahahah

that most common issue is that it strips out affiliate id's on various feeds
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Feed Pushers definitely helps sponsors do that. There may be other methods as well.
I can't contend that something is better or not, because I respect the competitors (even giving them a free tips ), but the alternative solutions were available for a long time - many affiliate programs do use them already. As I said above, the Real-Bucks.com has started offering the morphing feeds to their webmasters many months ago (check rbblog.com)
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edgeprod, I hope you'll implement our idea and fix http://rss.breabennett.com/feed.php?feed_id=6 to make it work like http://demo.thesponsorfeeds.com to produce THE SAME content for a particular webmaster id. You are welcome in case if you decide to say "thanks" for the idea
Sorry, not interested in fucking over our webmasters by "breaking" Feed Pushers to "downgrade" it to your rip-off product.

Many of our webmasters have multiple blogs, and want the content to change every pull. Your ideas, shitty as they are, confuse and misinform people ... if you just stop spouting off, I think more people will have a clue as to what to do with feeds.

You should come with a warning label.
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rofl, go figure, a "programmer" that doesn't know about the issues feedwordpress has, NO! hahahah
Do you really think a programmer should know about/learn someone's else code? What's a difference between a programmer and a hacker btw, should I suggest you to use wikipedia?

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that most common issue is that it strips out affiliate id's on various feeds
I don't know about that problem. Perhaps you're doing something wrong, but all my ref codes are on the blogs and they aren't missing - believe me BTW, show me some sponsored feed URL which is being stripped by feedwordpress. I'm really interested to see such one
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Sorry, not interested in fucking over our webmasters by "breaking" Feed Pushers to "downgrade" it to your rip-off product.

Many of our webmasters have multiple blogs, and want the content to change every pull. Your ideas, shitty as they are, confuse and misinform people ... if you just stop spouting off, I think more people will have a clue as to what to do with feeds.

You should come with a warning label.
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Do you really think a programmer should know about/learn someone's else code? What's a difference between a programmer and a hacker btw, should I suggest you to use wikipedia?

I don't know about that problem. Perhaps you're doing something wrong, but all my ref codes are on the blogs and they aren't missing - believe me BTW, show me some sponsored feed URL which is being stripped by feedwordpress. I'm really interested to see such one
I don't use feedwordpress, but I deal with ACTUAL bloggers that tell me about issues and pay me to help them...the MOST common problem with feedwordpress is it stripping affiliate codes, period

you are an idiot russian scammer that constantly spreads misinformation
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Do you really think a programmer should know about/learn someone's else code?
You seem to try to make people think YOU know about someone else's code. In fact, I think most of us in this thread are beginning to wonder if you even know your OWN code! When you were ripping off Feed Pushers, you certainly could have done a much better job at it.

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I don't know about that problem.
ROFL -- you're beginning to make me think you've never even USED a feed! Jace is the feed MASTER, and if you just stop being lazy and search GFY or Google, you'll see this problem crop up again and again.
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Sorry, not interested in fucking over our webmasters by "breaking" Feed Pushers to "downgrade" it to your rip-off product.
Sorry but it was you who tld as about possible problems with your feeds:
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Am I wrong or isn't that was your post? You've ripped our product already so why don't you rip that idea as well?
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