A big FUCK YOU to Brad from Lion Dollars

[Zorgman]

WTF is it with this webmaster. I meet this guy Brad in LA at the Webmaster Access back in 2004 (at the time he was working for Adult Lounge, now I think he's working for Lion Dollars). We had some drinks and talked biz. Kept in tounch for over 3 years now untill 5 minutes ago.

I don't usually post ICQ logs but this is insane.

Brad : dude
Brad : youhave epass?
Brad : want to make 80 bones
Brad : for 10 minutes work
ME : i have epass. whats the work?
Brad : just have to deposit 20 usd into a casino...with your cc
Brad : when you do tha i give yu 100
Brad : on epass
ME : i never use my cc over the net.
Brad : lol..okie hen
Brad : no worries if you dont want it
ME : cant dude. $80 is not worth the rish of getting $5000 or $10000 bucks stolen from my account. why not use epass virtual ?
Brad : you can try that
Brad : if it works let me kno i send youthe money
Brad : you are the only webmaster in the world afriad to use their cc online
Brad : lol
Brad : but to each their own
ME : you dont have a cc?
Brad : yeah i do have several
Brad : and i ran them all
Brad : http://casino777royal.com/
Brad : this is not for me...this is helping someone else reach a lage bonus payout
Brad : so if you depsoit 20...i give you 100
Brad : dont do it if it causes some kind of moral dilemna for you
Brad : or you are worried
ME : sorry dude. i need all my epassporte money for bills and server costs.
Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont giveyu 80 bucks then
Brad : lol
Brad : goodbye
ME : cya
Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you
ME : you joking right?

Please tell me someone just fucked away their life savings on the online casino. Because that would really do this guy justice.

Sorry, this thread has nothing to do with Adult Lounge or Lion Dollars, both great programs.

A big FUCK YOU to Brad!

[mb]

really shady...

[ronaldo]

Well, it is kind of funny that you won't use your credit card online, but why he'd block you over that conversation is a little puzzling.

[Phoenix]

no more like useless zorgman is w hiny bitch

who constantly every fuckin day for about 4 years asks me to give him tips on hhis websites

what do i th in of this idea or that idea...every fucking day for years


you know how much business i get from him


ZERO

go die zorgman and stop your lies

[C-Bass]

its a conspiracy

[Phoenix]

the only reason i ever spoke to you was to calm y ou down causeyou were bitching about someone else

then you latched on like a leech

[KimJI]

This cant be a Liondollars guy

[picaso]

is this icq chatlog for real ?

[Phoenix]

no its not for real

i did erase him from icq..and his history i wish i hadnt

all he ever did was beg for tips and what to do online

well...ive had enough of it

you want advice...fuckin send 1 click

dont take up someones time for 4 years and do nothing

you be real careful now zorgie

you already threw down the gauntlet
all gloves are off in my mind

[stev0]

no more like useless zorgman is w hiny bitch

who constantly every fuckin day for about 4 years asks me to give him tips on hhis websites

Newsflash buddy... you're a program rep, it's your job

[stev0]

you want advice...fuckin send 1 click

dont take up someones time for 4 years and do nothing

I retract my previous post. Program reps are there to help affiliates, if he's not sending traffic and generating $$$ for the program he's not an affiliate.

[scottybuzz]

Newsflash buddy... you're a program rep, it's your job

[scottybuzz]

I retract my last two laughs

[KimJI]

did you, or did you not ask him to sign up for that pokersite?
If you did you should be fired as a program rep.

You are trying to fraud a pokersite

[Phoenix]

Newsflash buddy... you're a program rep, it's your job

newsflash i helped him for four years..and then he went psycho today

he doesnt send a single click

im happy to help someone from bottom up

and offer advice where i can

[Zorgman]

I promote both programs and yes, Phoenix is Brad.

I asked for help, thats what webmasters do for each other. Im not giving you fucken money so you can go play the casino.

[Phoenix]

did you, or did you not ask him to sign up for that pokersite?
If you did you should be fired as a program rep.

You are trying to fraud a pokersite

hes full of lies

and hot air

[wdsguy]

this shit is too funny.

[Phoenix]

I promote both programs and yes, Phoenix is Brad.

I asked for help, thats what webmasters do for each other. Im not giving you fucken money so you can go play the casino.

lol..i got my own money dude

you are out in left field


enjoy your changing business plans every five days


as i said to you on icq...mental help is free in australia


go seek it out

[KimJI]

hes full of lies

and hot air

So you did NOT ask him to sign up for that poker site in return for money?

[Ravage]

You are trying to fraud a pokersite

I don't think Brad is trying to fraud a poker site. What this looks like to me, is a CPA campaign media buy with the site, with a min $20 deposit. Its nothing more than incentivized traffic being sent to the site to complete the buy.

All I gotta say is, $20 min deposits now? Wow, they must really be hurting.

[Zorgman]

Screenshot of my last post and the original icq.

Also, now he wants me to settle.. settle what Brad?

Get some gaming help. If your begging webmasters for money so you can go play the casino, you really do need help.

[KimJI]

I don't think Brad is trying to fraud a poker site. What this looks like to me, is a CPA campaign media buy with the site, with a min $20 deposit. Its nothing more than incentivized traffic being sent to the site to complete the buy.

All I gotta say is, $20 min deposits now? Wow, they must really be hurting.

Its fraud, but you would of course defend those practices, since its the same thing Madawgs do to get signups from hos warez sites to your program.

[OMG Jim]

Remember that everything you write, post or send on the internet will be there for anyone to do anything they want to with.

If you DO NOT represent a company then you can basically act any way your choose. But if you DO represent a company within a certain industry then common courtesy should be the rule.

Sounds like someone did not know how to respect someone's wishes to be involved in something that they chose not to. If that person did not want to be involved then it is their choice.

If someone wants to block someone then it is also their choice.

I have chatted with Zorgman on a number of occasions for about a year now and have offered comments and critiques on projects that he is working on. Whenever I was busy or unable to help I would just say so and that was the end of it. This is part of doing business in hopes that one day we may indeed do some business.

For someone that is not able to respect someones private financial dealings all I have to say is.... NOT COOL! If in fact that person does represent an established company within our industry then it definitely sheds a NEGATIVE light on the employer.
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My worth

[dav3]

I'm curious as to what's in the rest of the scroll?

[ronaldo]

I'd like to add a big fuck you to Brad as well for not offering me a free $80.

[fluffygrrl]

Top notch drama.

[Platinum Dave]

Brad is doing a favour for someone else.

Deposit $20 get $100 in return.

I don't see why a conversation like that needs to be posted on GFY for everyone to see.

Is everyone still in highschool on this chat board? grow up will ya.

[JFK]

I'd like to add a big fuck you to Brad as well for not offering me a free $80.

well make that a double

[emichele20]

This shit is funny. Zorgman I'm glad that you didn't think twice about offering...

[KimJI]

Brad is doing a favour for someone else.

Deposit $20 get $100 in return.

I don't see why a conversation like that needs to be posted on GFY for everyone to see.

Is everyone still in highschool on this chat board? grow up will ya.

So I can sign up for your program, and pay pornsurfers $20 to sign up for your $$4.87/ Popup membership, you wont have a problem with that?

[Platinum Dave]

So I can sign up for your program, and pay pornsurfers $20 to sign up for your $$4.87/ Popup membership, you wont have a problem with that?

No wouldn't accept that.

The casino is offering up big bonuses if a client refers other people.

So Brad is referring other people. If your not interested then simply say no thanks not interested. Life it to short to stress over small things.

[Tom_PM]

He said sorry dude I need my epass money for other things.

[Zorgman]

Dave (remember me), I said NO and he ended our friendship.

[Phoenix]

go take some meds zorg

you are a tool

dont ask me every day for help on a project you will give up on in five minutes

[baddog]

Screenshot of my last post and the original icq.

Also, now he wants me to settle.. settle what Brad?

Get some gaming help. If your begging webmasters for money so you can go play the casino, you really do need help.

Wow.

I am having a problem seeing how Brad's actions/comments are somehow defendable. He isn't doing anyone any favors and I hate being put in a position where I side with KimJI.

[dodger21]

What a retard

[Platinum Dave]

Dave (remember me), I said NO and he ended our friendship.

I remember your name yes.

You said no and Brad said...


Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont give you $80 bucks then
Brad : lol
Brad : goodbye

That's not ending a friendship.

[Zorgman]

Dave, you must have missed this line hey.

Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you

I think that's a pretty big "FUCK YOU CUNT" for not giving me $20.

[baddog]

I remember your name yes.

You said no and Brad said...


Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont give you $80 bucks then
Brad : lol
Brad : goodbye

That's not ending a friendship.

Convenient that you skipped the next couple of lines:


Brad : okie dude...dont worry i wont giveyu 80 bucks then
Brad : lol
Brad : goodbye
ME : cya
Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you

[Peaches]

The casino is offering up big bonuses if a client refers other people.

If you were offering $200 per referral would you be OK with affiliates bringing in referrals whom they knew had no intention of ever sending any clicks/sales?

So Brad is referring other people. If your not interested then simply say no thanks not interested. Life it to short to stress over small things.

Zorg did tell him he wasn't interested and wasn't at all rude about it IMO. It was Brad who got snippy.

"Brad : dont be asking me for any bullshit tips for your sites anymore..im blocking you"

[TDF]

lol..how anyone can defend brad in this position is beyond me...i mean broclub

[Jman]

No wouldn't accept that.

The casino is offering up big bonuses if a client refers other people.

So Brad is referring other people. If your not interested then simply say no thanks not interested. Life it to short to stress over small things.

"Life it to short to stress over small things"

Ah!!! this quote belongs in many threads

[spunkmister]

No wouldn't accept that.

The casino is offering up big bonuses if a client refers other people.

So Brad is referring other people. If your not interested then simply say no thanks not interested. Life it to short to stress over small things.

The casino pays out money to refer other gamblers to sign up to their service, in this case the person Brad is asking to signup isnt interested in actually gambling, he's only interested in getting his "friend" the bonus payout.

How is this different from what KimJI suggested? You pay webmasters to refer surfers to your sites....so if I start a new project that gives an incentive for surfers to sign up to your trials then you would be ok with it right? Since you are defending what Brad did.

[esnem]

Not sure what the big deal is here...

Had he scammed you it would have been a different story. Brad, hit me up, i'll deposit 20 to make 100. And I know you'll pay me.

Idiots.

[Profits of Doom]

Not sure what the big deal is here...

Had he scammed you it would have been a different story. Brad, hit me up, i'll deposit 20 to make 100. And I know you'll pay me.

Idiots.

And you wonder why people justify stealing content? Idiot...

[spunkmister]

Also wouldn't this be the same as me asking 10 of my friends to sign up for trials at a sponsor I promote and then cancel so I can get my payouts?

[esnem]

The casino pays out money to refer other gamblers to sign up to their service, in this case the person Brad is asking to signup isnt interested in actually gambling, he's only interested in getting his "friend" the bonus payout.

How is this different from what KimJI suggested? You pay webmasters to refer surfers to your sites....so if I start a new project that gives an incentive for surfers to sign up to your trials then you would be ok with it right? Since you are defending what Brad did.

casinos are different than adult sites. if i deposit that 20, i am definitely playing it. if i ever want to gamble online again, there's a good chance i'll use a casino that i've used before, even more likely to use a casino that i used last.

that is the value and that's why it's worth it for a casino to pay on those leads. adult sites are an entirely different ballgame.

[esnem]

And you wonder why people justify stealing content? Idiot...

who are you? you make no sense.

[esnem]

Also wouldn't this be the same as me asking 10 of my friends to sign up for trials at a sponsor I promote and then cancel so I can get my payouts?

CASINOS AND ADULT SITES ARE NOT THE SAME