If you were trapped in a well, could your finger nails leave visible marks on the wal

[ProjectNaked]

If someone was scratching for their life on the concrete wall of a well, would there be visible marks as in the movie the ring?

I am remodeling a room and when I ripped up the floor, I found a trap door with a large concrete room under it. The room is circular, about 10ft across and 10ft deep. On the wall there appear to be scratch marks. I was able to fish out some small animal bones and can still see some larger bones. I have believed the house to be haunted for multiple reasons and this is confirming it. I also found a very old medical necklace still clasped near the opening. The room was added onto the house in 1914 - as that date and a name was written inside one of the walls in the above room.

[IllTestYourGirls]

um call the police?

[ProjectNaked]

um call the police?

not until I am sure I have something -

[papill0n]

yes there could

[Jayvis]

wow thats something that would get TV footage... definitely look into it.

[IllTestYourGirls]

The answer to the first question is yes.. they could. If the owner of the house made the room it could be poor quality cement.

not until I am sure I have something -

[CC]

Well that's creepy.

[sysk]

man that's crazy. would you mind posting some pics !!?

[aico]

seven days

[tony286]

it sounds very scary.

[ProjectNaked]

[qxm]

Call on this guy to exorcise your house >>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=JjTd-hypnYI

[aico]

call the police before you totally muck up the crime scene.

[ProjectNaked]

Call on this guy to exorcise your house >>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=JjTd-hypnYI

I'm not afraid, I have had so much strange shit happen in the house I had to quit telling people about it - they were starting to think I was crazy But if I do come to the conclusion that there was something foul going on, I will be calling the fuzz.

[Loki]

AHEM..... this thread is useless without pics ;)

yeah, really post some pics

-Loki-

[Spunky]

Geez..I would be out of that house..freaky shit

[CC]

Yeah I agree, you should be calling the cops.

[ProjectNaked]

AHEM..... this thread is useless without pics ;)

yeah, really post some pics

-Loki-

pics are posted

[Jayvis]

post more pics!!!

[ProjectNaked]

gonna grab my D70 - see if I can get some cleaner pics

[Loki]

pics are posted

Yeah, noticed that when I refreshed

I was typing WAY too slow lol, when I started to type that there were no pics lol

-Loki-

[spacedog]

That's fucking awesome... I'd love to have that in my house.. I'd make it my gun safe

[spacedog]

by the way, those aren't scratches from no fingernails.. fucking impossible.

[ProjectNaked]

That's fucking awesome... I'd love to have that in my house.. I'd make it my gun safe

that beats the grow room and hooker storage suggestions I was icq'd

[ProjectNaked]

by the way, those aren't scratches from no fingernails.. fucking impossible.

the concrete is over 100 years old - I can't reach the wall but concrete does become brittle over time, especially the stuff they made back then.

[Loki]

Get out the video camera......

have some girl down there.....

Have a man up top saying.....

IT RUBS THE LOTION ON IT'S SKIN OR ELSE IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN

Just a thought.

PS, says Tampa/Detroit under your nick, which one is that house in? (Northern Michigan here )

-Loki-

[Iron Fist]

Get out the video camera......

have some girl down there.....

Have a man up top saying.....

IT RUBS THE LOTION ON IT'S SKIN OR ELSE IT GETS THE HOSE AGAIN

Just a thought.

PS, says Tampa/Detroit under your nick, which one is that house in? (Northern Michigan here )

-Loki-

Awesome...

[Loki]

Awesome...

Could also take it a step farther and have a lil dog up top fall into the basket...

Then have the girl scream.....

I GOT YOUR FUCKING DOG!

-Loki-

[Scootermuze]

It might be interesting to have an investigator have a look at it..

Could have been for cold storage back then..

No doubt it can create all sorts of wonderment...

Maybe a local historian may have some insight..

and as mentioned... Calling the Ghost Busters is always an option...

[Evil E]

Do you have pictures of the bones?

[ProjectNaked]

It might be interesting to have an investigator have a look at it..

Could have been for cold storage back then..

No doubt it can create all sorts of wonderment...

Maybe a local historian may have some insight..

and as mentioned... Calling the Ghost Busters is always an option...

had someone suggest it could have been for alcohol storage during prohibition -

[ProjectNaked]

PS, says Tampa/Detroit under your nick, which one is that house in? (Northern Michigan here )

-Loki-

this is my place in Michigan, closer to AA than Detroit - here for the big game Saturday

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

definitely grow room material...

[ProjectNaked]

Do you have pictures of the bones?

had to mess with the contrast a bit -

[sysk]

Shoot some pics of the bones! What city is this house located ?

Edit: ooops, you did post the pics while I was writing this.

[crockett]

Well if it's animal bones maybe they had some sort of animal stuck down there. It's more likely a dog or something that would scratch the walls like that.

Regardless it's kinda freaky. Is that the only trap door? It doesn't seem to be positioned very well, in regards to the hole.

remember.. "It puts the lotion on it's skin or it gets the hose again"

[ProjectNaked]

Well if it's animal bones maybe they had some sort of animal stuck down there. It's more likely a dog or something that would scratch the walls like that.

Regardless it's kinda freaky. Is that the only trap door? It doesn't seem to be positioned very well, in regards to the hole.

the room was built on top of it but I can't figure out why the hole wasn't filled in or at least covered. Also, why cut a trap door unless you are planning to use the hole for something. As for the scratch marks, they appear to be too far apart to be a small animal. I was able to pull out a small skull that appeared to be a cat or something similar, but the other bones are too large to be from it.

[minusonebit]

Nice. Does GFY now have its very own Dahmer?

[ProjectNaked]

Nice. Does GFY now have its very own Dahmer?

what exactly does that mean? maybe you would like to stop by and have a look...



please come alone

[crockett]

Is the ground solid or is it just dirt in the bottom of the hole? Yea never know, maybe it was an old well years ago and was partially filled in before they built the room.

As far as the bones, I assume there is a crawl space under the house? Maybe cats and other animals were under your house and fell in. No way to get out so they died.

[ProjectNaked]

Is the ground solid or is it just dirt in the bottom of the hole? Yea never know, maybe it was an old well years ago and was partially filled in before they built the room.

As far as the bones, I assume there is a crawl space under the house? Maybe cats and other animals were under your house and fell in. No way to get out so they died.

I can't tell if the floor is solid or not. It does look like a water tank, but I've never seen one this wide, this kind of a location (relative to the house) or this kind of set-up. The pipe in the pictures is not connected to anything and when I lift it a few inches and drop it the floor almost sounds hollow. I am now thinking there could be another opening under the pile of dirt. As for the bones, I pulled a small skull out by joining 2 push broom handles and taping a hook on the end but the bones in the picture appear too large to be from the same animal. I just shot some video, let me take a look and see if it shows anything new.

[rowan]

Are you game to go down there? Bring a friend or family member over so they can help.

[ProjectNaked]

this whole thing doesn't make sence - not a septic, not shaped or sized like a well, strange opening, stranger trapdoor above opening that was floored over to conceal.

gonna find me a lucky volunteer tomorrow to go into the abyss....

[halfpint]

Wow thats just mad how long have you lived in the house, before you realized that you had a trap door there , Is it shown in the any of the plans for the house

[ProjectNaked]

Wow just mad how long have you lived in the house, before you realized that you had a trap door there , Is it shown in the any of the plans for the house

We have owned the house for about 10 years. My brother and I use it as a cottage when we are in Michigan. I have spent about 4 or 5 years total in it. As for plans, the house was built around 1900 - when I gutted the walls of the room with the trapdoor, I found where someone had written their name, the city, and Oct 28, 1914. This is one of the last rooms to be remodeled. It would figure this would happen as I was planning to knock this out quick. The room was added onto the side of the house I would assume to cover the "well" as I'm gonna call it. The strange part is that there is no cover to the "well" and why put a trap door in unless you are gonna use it. My mind is flying all over the place now. Gonna be a spooky night for sure

[Evil E]

Maybe you could rent the "well" to silent knight.

[halfpint]

Does sound strange and as you said they would normally fill the tanks in before buiding on top of it, Unless who ever knew it was there decided that it would make a good storage room or something, and the people who moved in after couldent be bothered to fill it in and just hid the door. Rather you than me going down there though..goodluck.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

i would have totally dove down in there by now already. i wish i had a cool as spot like that in my house...

[Loki]

AA is a nice place, I'm about an hour or so from T.C in the "Golf Mecca" city lol

anyway, been staring at the first batch of photos and tons of questions fill my mind..... (yours to i'm sure heh)


In this photo (or at least at this angle) it seems this is NOT the full opening of the "well" as you only see a small portion of the 'entry', have you check around the surrounding tiles to see if more cover?


(1)how deep would you say this thing is? just going by scratch marks (seem to be 3 scratches per marking) it would have to be shallow if they were made by an animal.

(2) What is the small white looking thing at the bottom center? (I read mention of a pipe somewhere is that it?) and if so is that plastic? if so that tells me it was 'added' in the last 50 years or so (wonder why???)

(3) In the dead center I assume that is dirt, you said you tapped down there and it sounded hollow? thats a bit odd seeing as there seems to be stonework (cement) all around it, this now reminds me of that movie..... ehh nevermind lol

DEFF Keep us all updated!

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-Loki-

[Loki]

One more thing, and call it a dumbass hunch lol

the very bottom cement it looks black in the photos, can you notice any SOOT or ASH anywhere around that area (mainly on the bottom)

and if so, check the "dirt" is it instead ash?

-Loki-