Don't use Livejasmin/AWempire.. a big shit!

[cachondo]

I know a few AWEmpire workers are around here. I'll explain the title of my thread..

I've a website with livejasmin and I made a lot of users in the % program..
I earn around 100$ first months, and a few months later around 400-500$..

I create an user and I put money, at stats all is ok.. but other month when I put money into my account.. not appears into my webmaster account!!!

I wrote awempire support and they told me who if I delete my cookies the transactions of my users aren't into my webmaster account..

THIS IS NOT CORRECT.. BECAUSE U CAN KNOW THE TRANSACTIONS OF MY USERS WITHOUT COOKIES, AND THEY'RE MY USERS BECAUSE I'M INTO THE % PROGRAM.

PEOPLE, PLEASE NOT USE AWEMPIRE, THEY'VE GOOD GIRLS BUT YOU'LL NEVER EARN BIG MONEY.

EDIT: my account id is franbc, and I've screenshots to demostrate what I write here.

[Shaze]

Isn't there something about AWE that after a certain amount of days you aren't credited for sales from a customer even with the percentage program?? i've seen posts about this.

it's best to use PPS with AWE because the percentage isn't really a percentage for lifetime of the customer

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by Shaze

Isn't there something about AWE that after a certain amount of days you aren't credited for sales from a customer even with the percentage program?? i've seen posts about this.

it's best to use PPS with AWE because the percentage isn't really a percentage for lifetime of the customer

It has been said they pay only for the first 14 days

It has been confirmed and denied so many times I dont think anybody really knows anymore.

[cachondo]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

It has been said they pay only for the first 14 days

It has been confirmed and denied so many times I dont think anybody really knows anymore.

14 days? imposible.. I've people into my account with mre than 1 month.. but later they disappear.

it's incredible.. a % program by limited time.. I losing my money and I know this now..

I've only one word to say: scammers.

[Niktamer]

this is the reason i stopped to use them even if they convert damn good.

this policies probably cost them more than they make.

[pornguy]

Check out EpicCams.com We have amazing retention with the cam program.

Click the link in my sig.

[Shaze]

Originally Posted by cachondo

14 days? imposible.. I've people into my account with mre than 1 month.. but later they disappear.

it's incredible.. a % program by limited time.. I losing my money and I know this now..

I've only one word to say: scammers.

That is a problem then. AWE has always been accused of being shavers by alot of people. All you can do is just stop using them.

[cachondo]

Yes, they're a big shit, surely they earn a big money.. scamming webmasters.

I'm searching a cam program with spanish/english language by % who pays by epassporte.

I deleted all the banners of livejasmin into my site right now

[will76]

Originally Posted by cachondo

14 days? imposible.. I've people into my account with mre than 1 month.. but later they disappear.

it's incredible.. a % program by limited time.. I losing my money and I know this now..

I've only one word to say: scammers.

from everything i have read about them it is a FACT that they have a 14 day cookie. The only way you have people with them longer than 14 days is if the person keeps coming back to your site and the cookie keeps getting reset.

The only way I would ever consider using something as retarded as a 14 day cookie is if I had a white label site where people never made it to AWE's site. The url they knew was mine, if they were going to spend money or watch girls on cam they would go to MY url, so this way the cookie would always be updated and you wouldn't lose sales. However that isn't the way it works. People like yourself send them traffic and then those customers go to livejasmine when they go back to spend money. if they never go back to your site (they dont need to) then you lose them after 14 days.

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by cachondo

Yes, they're a big shit, surely they earn a big money.. scamming webmasters.

I'm searching a cam program with spanish/english language by % who pays by epassporte.

I deleted all the banners of livejasmin into my site right now

Lol, you fucked yourself, AWE only pays for the first 14 days on their revshare program. If you are going to promote revshare cams, at least promote a program that pays for the life of the customer, not the first two weeks.

[BradM]

Hm, easy way to steal sales methinks.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Shaze

That is a problem then. AWE has always been accused of being shavers by alot of people. All you can do is just stop using them.

who accused awe of shaving ? who are these "alot of people"

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

It has been said they pay only for the first 14 days

It has been confirmed and denied so many times I dont think anybody really knows anymore.

i like how people make up facts , where did anyone deny the 14 day cookie?

the awe crew has told people multiple times about the 14 day cookie, i have never seen them deny it

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by will76

from everything i have read about them it is a FACT that they have a 14 day cookie. The only way you have people with them longer than 14 days is if the person keeps coming back to your site and the cookie keeps getting reset.

The only way I would ever consider using something as retarded as a 14 day cookie is if I had a white label site where people never made it to AWE's site. The url they knew was mine, if they were going to spend money or watch girls on cam they would go to MY url, so this way the cookie would always be updated and you wouldn't lose sales. However that isn't the way it works. People like yourself send them traffic and then those customers go to livejasmine when they go back to spend money. if they never go back to your site (they dont need to) then you lose them after 14 days.

very good points. the 14 day cookie is stupid , tons of people don't use them just because of it.. i also dont think you can call a program revshare if its 14 days, it should be called "14day-revshare" or just switched to pps , or something different like $20 pps plus %50 of rebills for a week

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i like how people make up facts , where did anyone deny the 14 day cookie?

the awe crew has told people multiple times about the 14 day cookie, i have never seen them deny it

There are lots of threads that say the 14 day cookie dsnt exist..... I dont know if they were from AWE reps or not. My photographic memory isnt as good as it used to be

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Shaze

Isn't there something about AWE that after a certain amount of days you aren't credited for sales from a customer even with the percentage program?? i've seen posts about this.

it's best to use PPS with AWE because the percentage isn't really a percentage for lifetime of the customer

On average I think we still make more with the % option than if we would go PPS, so allthough I don't like the 2 week cookie I don't think PPS is always the way to go. I should change the links to pps for a while to be sure.

[Shaze]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

There are lots of threads that say the 14 day cookie dsnt exist..... I dont know if they were from AWE reps or not. My photographic memory isnt as good as it used to be

it says it right in their TOS or Rules or whatever you call it.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

There are lots of threads that say the 14 day cookie dsnt exist..... I dont know if they were from AWE reps or not. My photographic memory isnt as good as it used to be

i think what youre thinking is that lots of people have said " theres no way they would do that , that it stupid" obviously none of these are awe reps.

i think its important if you are putting words into people's mouths by saying " it has been confirmed and denied many times " that you do it correctly.

it has been confirmed multiple times by the awe crew and they have never denied it, thus saying they denied and confirmed it is false.

i am not bustin your chops ( ok well maybe a little ) , just want to make it clear.

I am no fan of the 14 day cookie as i pointed out above , but no need to rub salt in a wound by making false allegations right

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by QuaShe

On average I think we still make more with the % option than if we would go PPS, so allthough I don't like the 2 week cookie I don't think PPS is always the way to go. I should change the links to pps for a while to be sure.

so do i , and because they arent "hiding" the fact , i still use them , i dont like it , but they pay better than other cam sponsors pps or rev.

its sad when you get a whale and they vanish after a couple weeks and you know they are still spending but those whales are much harder to get with other cam sponsors .

"100% of zero is still zero even if its lifetime revshare"

[cachondo]

ok.. all posts are good.

but the question is.. BECAUSE?

Because they use the 14 day cookie? to help webmasters .. or to fuck webmasters and earn a lot of money without pay for traffic? (with the users who we send)

what is the reason? a sponsor what search? help webmaster to earn money or fuck webmasters and scam the money? if I get stats of my users in all the time.. probably I win a lot of money, not a shit of 300$/month

Yeah, they've good content and good system, but this method of revenue is a shit and the program never will be good..

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Well I also believe it's a well known issue that was never denied, but of course I can imagine wouldn't want to get into a position when I would send them the traffic without knowing it.

But it's up to AWE.

I believe VISIT-X should fit your needs, not sure if they pay with epass but they are good people.

On another note, I am looking for someone with a bit of knowledge of the spanish online market, you think we could get in touch and chat a bit anytime soon?

[will76]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think what youre thinking is that lots of people have said " theres no way they would do that , that it stupid" obviously none of these are awe reps.

i think its important if you are putting words into people's mouths by saying " it has been confirmed and denied many times " that you do it correctly.

it has been confirmed multiple times by the awe crew and they have never denied it, thus saying they denied and confirmed it is false.

i am not bustin your chops ( ok well maybe a little ) , just want to make it clear.

I am no fan of the 14 day cookie as i pointed out above , but no need to rub salt in a wound by making false allegations right

Damian is just a drunk. He will tell you " lots of people have said that" and there is likely none. He is the same idiot that posted repeatedly that I was being paid by clickcash to bash AFF. Something he should have been banned for since he has no proof since it is not true.

I wouldn't waste your time explaining anything to him. Once he gets something set in his mind there is no changing it no matter how wrong he is.

[will76]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

so do i , and because they arent "hiding" the fact , i still use them , i dont like it , but they pay better than other cam sponsors pps or rev.

its sad when you get a whale and they vanish after a couple weeks and you know they are still spending but those whales are much harder to get with other cam sponsors .

"100% of zero is still zero even if its lifetime revshare"

you know what is even more sad is when YOU were the person with the good traffic that got the whale to signup. YOU brought him to AWE but you only get him for 14 days. Then you have someone with millions of hits from trash traffic, your whale happens across their site, even if it is just for a couple seconds, but their cookie is put on your "ex" whale's pc. Now your ex whale goes to LiveJasmine like he does everyday but the guy with bulk trash traffic makes well from it, for 14 days at least.

There reason why I think this type of system is retarded is because it rewards the people with bulk traffic, who never have to generate an "inital" sale of their own. But people with less, quality traffic who bring new customers to the company only get the benefit of having them for 14 days. Doesn't make sense to me.

[dozey]

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

There are lots of threads that say the 14 day cookie dsnt exist..... I dont know if they were from AWE reps or not. My photographic memory isnt as good as it used to be

Simply checking the facts would never suffice of course.

[Fat Panda]

never in my life will i promote a 14 day revshare plan...basically after 14 days they are hijacking my traffic/referral....what a bunch of stale donkey shit mother fucking cocksucking bull piss shit!

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by will76

Damian is just a drunk. He will tell you " lots of people have said that" and there is likely none. He is the same idiot that posted repeatedly that I was being paid by clickcash to bash AFF. Something he should have been banned for since he has no proof since it is not true.

I wouldn't waste your time explaining anything to him. Once he gets something set in his mind there is no changing it no matter how wrong he is.

Get over it Will....

I dont agree with everything you say, sorry about that. Sometimes you fail to see the bigger picture, or perhaps you just dont want to see it.

The first post I made was my attempt at being diplomatic. I wont bother in the future.

[Damian_Maxcash]

Originally Posted by dozey

Simply checking the facts would never suffice of course......

I was trying to say that it is generaly known, but has been debated many times before.

Sorry if I failed to get that point accross..

[dozey]

ohh opera looks nice in vista!

They've posted about their 14 day cookie many many times.

The firey screen capture doesn't do it much justice... but yes, it is pleasant.

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash

I was trying to say that it is generaly known, but has been debated many times before.

Sorry if I failed to get that point accross..

Not at all, that's what I mean. Only on GFY could people manage to dispute something so obvious.

[dav3]

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[just a punk]

I'm also thinking to pull out all the AWW feeds from my blogs and paysite member's areas, because their cams don't convert for me anymore. Any good alternative instead of EpicCams (sorry Epic, bit I need the program that pays on epass)?

[Matt 26z]

AWE has posted here on GFY that affiliate webmasters do not deserve lifetime revshare. It was really one of the dumbest statements ever posted to the boards by a sponsor.

Then there was a conflicting statement made by someone else at AWE that they were trying to fix the 14 day cookie issue, but they couldn't because the backend script was far too complicated. Did anyone really believe that? I hope not because a year or two was enough time to fix it if they had really wanted to.

Snakes.

[pornask]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

AWE has posted here on GFY that affiliate webmasters do not deserve lifetime revshare. It was really one of the dumbest statements ever posted to the boards by a sponsor.

Then there was a conflicting statement made by someone else at AWE that they were trying to fix the 14 day cookie issue, but they couldn't because the backend script was far too complicated. Did anyone really believe that? I hope not because a year or two was enough time to fix it if they had really wanted to.

Snakes.

Oh boy, I have recently signed up with them. I'm not sure that's quite the sponsor I would like to promote. Someone advice of a good cam sponsor, but without spaming all of your affiliate links you currently have. Who's the best out there?

[atom]

Hey cachondo, HOTCAMS pays for life on the users you bring and we pay via epass weekly.

If you have any other questions please feel free to contact me.

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[just a punk]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Then there was a conflicting statement made by someone else at AWE that they were trying to fix the 14 day cookie issue, but they couldn't because the backend script was far too complicated.

AWW guys, hire me and I'll fix that for NO CHARGE = zero dollars a hour

[moogle]

anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie

[dav3]

Originally Posted by moogle

anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie

These are all Lifetime Revshare!

• Moo Cash - $35-$50 PPS / 30%-35% Lifetime Revs / $25 + 20% PPS-Revs Hybrid
• Money Tree - $40 PPS / 30% Lifetime Revs
• Dating Gold - $35 PPS / 20% Lifetime Revshare
• Video Secrets - 20%-35% Lifetime Revshare 50% on VIP Sales
• Camazon Cash - $40 PPS / 50% Lifetime Revshare
• Cam Sense - 20%-40% Lifetime Revshare
• Pussy Cash - $125 PPS / 20% Lifetime Revshare
• Webcams.com - $25 or $42 PPS / 25% site spending 60% subscription fees Lifetime Revshare
• Live Bucks - 25%-40% Lifetime Revshare / $35-$100 PPS

[will76]

Originally Posted by moogle

anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie

15?? why do you get 15 and everyone else gets 14. You must know someone in high places over there.

[charlie g]

I quite using awe because of their cookie policy. I have to say they converted better than anyone else I have tried so far.

[moogle]

Thanks dav!

Originally Posted by will76

15?? why do you get 15 and everyone else gets 14. You must know someone in high places over there.

Oh right, I mean 14 sorry

[dav3]

Originally Posted by moogle

Thanks dav!



Oh right, I mean 14 sorry

No problem. Hopefully there's something there you can use.

[Jago Webcams]

Originally Posted by moogle

anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie

Webcams.com has 25% site spending revshare AND 60% of membership fees for the life of the member

[AK]

catch our next period promo
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[Gary - AWP]

I guess it is too much for this program to be honest and pay the webmaster for the effort he puts in...I am happy to see that there are still a lot of honest programs...it is better than being temporarily rich :-)

[papill0n]

Alot of better programs that reward the webmaster with true lifetime revshare.

[cachondo]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

On another note, I am looking for someone with a bit of knowledge of the spanish online market, you think we could get in touch and chat a bit anytime soon?

sure, my email/msn is: [email protected]


and thanks to dav3 and atom I'll check the cam sponsors later

about the thread, I know they already tell about 14day cookie, it's in the awempire website, but I don't understand... really I can't find any reason for use it.. only scam the webmasters traffic, this is my problem, but well.. I'll search another cam sponsor.

I lost 1 year of quality traffic sending my users to livejasmin and much money because I sent people who pay a lot, but they'll lose webmasters (i'm one) and in a large time they'll lose more money.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by dav3

These are all Lifetime Revshare!

• Moo Cash - $35-$50 PPS / 30%-35% Lifetime Revs / $25 + 20% PPS-Revs Hybrid
• Money Tree - $40 PPS / 30% Lifetime Revs
• Dating Gold - $35 PPS / 20% Lifetime Revshare
• Video Secrets - 20%-35% Lifetime Revshare 50% on VIP Sales
• Camazon Cash - $40 PPS / 50% Lifetime Revshare
• Cam Sense - 20%-40% Lifetime Revshare
• Pussy Cash - $125 PPS / 20% Lifetime Revshare
• Webcams.com - $25 or $42 PPS / 25% site spending 60% subscription fees Lifetime Revshare
• Live Bucks - 25%-40% Lifetime Revshare / $35-$100 PPS

Thanks a lot!

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by moogle

anyone know of a good cam sponsor that has lifetime rev?

I'm getting tired of awe's 15 day cookie

moenytree, use AWE for PPS, converts about 3 million times better than the ones you'll be spammed with in this thread

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by cachondo

about the thread, I know they already tell about 14day cookie, it's in the awempire website, but I don't understand... really I can't find any reason for use it.. only scam the webmasters traffic, this is my problem, but well.. I'll search another cam sponsor. .

if they tell you, then it's hardly a "scam" its just not good as revshare for life..

if you send 10k hits per month to AWE and make $3k per month on 14 day cookie

or
you send 10k hits to another sponsor and make $2k per month on lifetime revshare


what is better ?

[dav3]

The AWE cookie thing has it's good points, and of course it's bad points.

The good side to the 14day cookie, is that if you are a newer webmaster, you aren't stuck with the slim pickings of the new members to the cam sites. Let's face it, there are tons of badass webmasters that make shitloads of sales. Their cookies are only 14days, so their customers get put back in to the pool of potential profits. Were as if you were on lifetime revs, you wouldn't be able to scoop up those older cam customers. The secret (if you can call it that) with AWE is to build a site that makes the user come back and reset your cookie, not just generate click-thrus.

The bad side, off course it sucks to lose a whale of a customer. But on the flip, you could get some one else's whale next time.

I see everyone recommending using the PPS option for AWE. Honestly, it's a bad idea. The PPS uses a 30day cookie, plus the customer must have never bought credits from and AWE site before. So if a previous revshare customer signs up with your PPS link, you pretty much just screwed yourself and other webmasters also, since that signup won't count for you and essentially taken out of the pool.

[woj]

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