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  • Damian_Maxcash
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 12745

    #1

    Australia ISPs will have to filter porn ....

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/7165987.stm

    Australia is planning tough new rules to protect children from online pornography and violence.

    The new Labor government wants internet service providers to filter content to ensure households and schools do not receive "inappropriate" material.

    Civil libertarians have condemned the plan as unnecessary, and say it will erode the freedom of the internet.

    But telecommunications minister Stephen Conroy said more needed to be done to protect children.

    Family-friendly

    The Australian government's aim is to ensure that children only have access to family-friendly websites.

    Service providers will be expected to stop the flow of pornography and other X-rated or violent content.

    The government is set to compile a list of unsuitable sites, although at this stage it is unclear what will be deemed unsuitable.

    Australians wanting unfettered access to the web will have to contact their supplier to opt out of the new regime.

    Critics of the proposals have insisted they have no place in a liberal democracy, and have accused Canberra of being oppressive.

    But Mr Conroy has been unmoved by their arguments.

    The minister stressed that if people equated freedom of speech with watching child pornography then he would always disagree with them.

    Concerns have also been raised that the government's filters could slow down access to the net, in a country where connection speeds are often below international standards.
    Thats fucked up......

    Curious wont be able to look at his own sites!! (JK He can opt out)
  • FredIsMe
    So Fucking Banned
    • Dec 2004
    • 2406

    #2
    Omg We Need To Protect Teh Children!!!!

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    • notoldschool
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2007
      • 5687

      #3
      "The minister stressed that if people equated freedom of speech with watching child pornography then he would always disagree with them."

      Are they talking about filtering porn or just child porn. Is he is equating child porn with regular porn?
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      • Socks
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 8475

        #4
        He is, and he did.

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        • NewbieNudes
          Confirmed User
          • Jan 2003
          • 940

          #5
          This is TOTALLY fucked.

          http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...31/2129471.htm

          Happy new year fellow aussies - we now join the ranks of china and the middle eastern block.

          Here we were bitching about 2257!!!

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          • papill0n
            Unregistered Abuser
            • Oct 2007
            • 15547

            #6
            OH SHITT!!!

            what a way to hit 2008!

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            • papill0n
              Unregistered Abuser
              • Oct 2007
              • 15547

              #7
              Damian does the UK have something similar to this already in place?

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              • Sarah_Jayne
                Now with more Jayne
                • Dec 2002
                • 40077

                #8
                Originally posted by RageCash-Ben
                Damian does the UK have something similar to this already in place?
                no it doesn't

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                • borked
                  Totally Borked
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 6284

                  #9
                  The minister stressed that if people equated freedom of speech with watching child pornography then he would always disagree with them.
                  I'm lost here - I think this minister is using CP for his own cruisade and mixing words as he goes

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                  • L-Pink
                    working on my tan
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 39151

                    #10
                    It's all in the name of "children"

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                    • papill0n
                      Unregistered Abuser
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 15547

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                      no it doesn't
                      Just curious because he says this....

                      "The internet hasn't ground to a halt in the UK, it hasn't ground to a halt in Scandinavian countries and it's not grinding the internet to a halt in Europe.
                      To me that implies such a scheme already exists in parts of Europe.

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                      • rowan
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        There's already legislation for opt-in filtering that came in around the end of the 1990s, but it was so technically nonviable that it didn't seem to go anywhere.

                        Filtering is a fine balance between outraged parents and excessive collateral damage. A computer program is not a replacement for proper parental supervision.

                        It is still a difficult technical issue. This will fail just like the other law did, but it will still be yahoo'd about at every opportunity so that Australians think the govt is taking care of them.

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                        • NewbieNudes
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                          • Jan 2003
                          • 940

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rowan
                          It is still a difficult technical issue. This will fail just like the other law did, but it will still be yahoo'd about at every opportunity so that Australians think the govt is taking care of them.
                          I think you might misunderstand. It isn't a technical issue to build a blacklist of sites and mandate the ISPs don't allow traffic on those domains. This is the type of thing they are suggesting, ISP level filtering! Not the client side software solution that was a complete joke.

                          This development is wrong on so many levels it is staggering! Where is our constitution embodying free speech when we need it!!
                          Last edited by NewbieNudes; 12-31-2007, 02:40 PM.
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                          • papill0n
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                            • Oct 2007
                            • 15547

                            #14
                            Originally posted by NewbieNudes
                            I think you might misunderstand. It isn't a technical issue to build a blacklist of sites and mandate the ISPs don't allow traffic on those domains. This is the type of thing they are suggesting, ISP level filtering! Not the client side software solution that was a complete joke.

                            This development is wrong on so many levels it is staggering! Where is our constitution embodying free speech when we need it!!
                            It sure seems like a ridiculous knee jerk reaction to me.

                            I thought howard was ultra conservative but this is just so over the top its embarrassing.
                            Last edited by papill0n; 12-31-2007, 02:45 PM.

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #15
                              ouch...
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                              • NewbieNudes
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 940

                                #16
                                This effects everyone with English speaking traffic, you will roughly lose 2-8% of your traffic (australian surfers - numbers guessed based on our traffic)

                                Some maybe lots more!
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                                • Steve Awesome
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                                  • Jan 2007
                                  • 1575

                                  #17
                                  I'm sure the voters will eat it up.

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                                  • NewbieNudes
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                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 940

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Steve Awesome
                                    I'm sure the voters will eat it up.
                                    The election is over. This is the new elected government announcing policy - not pre-election banter.
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                                    • aico
                                      Moo Moo Cow
                                      • Mar 2004
                                      • 14748

                                      #19
                                      yay! more responsibility taken away from the parents.

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                                      • notoldschool
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2007
                                        • 5687

                                        #20
                                        sucks to be australian. Im sure huckabee or romney will accomplish alot more in a short time.
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                                        • Diligent
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                                          • Aug 2003
                                          • 1594

                                          #21
                                          That's just retarded... but it's how politicians choose to tackle the issue - it's not like they've seen their "moral" voters be against such "solutions".
                                          Seems rather typical of "better-than-thou"/"higher moral valuing" people to be clueless on how the internet works, and who's to blame...
                                          like the internet is broadcasted/"push content" as opposed to "pull content", pff!

                                          What's gotta happen is; both politicians and people need education around these matters, or all-&-ANY adult goes into a mandatory,web-coexisting, opt-in protocol
                                          (like http://XXX.porn.com ).

                                          The first method just isn't happening, we've all learnt that the past.. what, 5 years?
                                          The second method... I think the industry really needs to both propose, back & push it! Or else we'll be stuck with stupid decisions like this worldwide soon.
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                                          • tony299
                                            lurker
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 57021

                                            #22
                                            This is only the start, the more tube sites showing full pornos to anyone with the click of a mouse. Plan on more and more countries doing this. Now to me I think instead of doing this they should make it law you got kids you have to have a filter on your system.

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