Shap, can you answer this please? Redtube not following your rules...

[»Rob Content«]

- They could use 2 - 3 minute clips to promote Twistys.
- Banners and advertising in and around the clip must be for Twistys and Twistys only.
- We do NOT accept traffic from any links that have stolen content on them.

Well Shap, I just went to redtube to take a look around, because as we know people who make their money off stolen content will 100% follow the rules right? lol

So in what i'm about to post one of a few things happened..

1. You lied
2. You need to hire better people to "monitor them closely"
3. they are just fucking you
4. You own AFF, Brazzers, Sexsearch, and private feeds.

So I go to redtube and look for twistys material and look what I find.

Here is a twistys video.

To the right I find an ad for private feeds and sex search. Both violate your rules.

Under the video I find a brazzers ad, also violates your rules.

When the video is done, I can click it and go to AFF. Once again violates your rules.

To the right I can click banners that take me to AFF. Once again violates your rules.



So now Shap, I have 2 questions for you.

Question 1

What will you do about it?

Question 2

Under the twistys Vid it has related videos some of them are 20 minute long clips.. which are not yours, some are water marked.. Is this ok with you as well?



Oh wait I looked around more, found more twistys videos..

http://www.redtube.com/7647

Private feeds, AFF, Sex search, Brazzers, video ends and it takes me to AFF again if I click the video.

http://www.redtube.com/7845

Look another twistys video, AFF, Sex search, brazzers, private feeds. Video ends I click it goes to sexsearch.

I found about 20 more of them.

Can you please explain and break this down for me...

thanks..

[jollyperv]

I wish redtube would just fuck off

[NosMo]

Bump for a answer.

NosMo

[slapass]

Come on. The two big banners are twistys and the clips are under 2 minutes. You are just throwing shit. I am not a fan of this move by Shap either but you are not going to win him over with incorrect stuff.

[»Rob Content«]

Come on. The two big banners are twistys and the clips are under 2 minutes. You are just throwing shit. I am not a fan of this move by Shap either but you are not going to win him over with incorrect stuff.

From shap's own post

- Banners and advertising in and around the clip must be for Twistys and Twistys only.
- We do NOT accept traffic from any links that have stolen content on them.

Well they have this.. both of them.

What gives?

[slapass]

From shap's own post

- Banners and advertising in and around the clip must be for Twistys and Twistys only.
- We do NOT accept traffic from any links that have stolen content on them.

Well they have this.. both of them.

What gives?

Ok it is not twistys only but why would the content be considered stolen. Shap gave it to them right?

[»Rob Content«]

Ok it is not twistys only but why would the content be considered stolen. Shap gave it to them right?

- We do NOT accept traffic from any links that have stolen content on them.

But, on a page with a twistys clip, and more then one, on a number of them it says right under the clip

"Related Videos"

Under those videos I am finding 10-20 min full length scenes. Some of which have blocked out water marks.

Well he won't accept traffic from any links that have stolen content.

But, I can view twistsy material, and then go view a stolen video...

[onno]

- We do NOT accept traffic from any links that have stolen content on them.

But, on a page with a twistys clip, and more then one, on a number of them it says right under the clip

"Related Videos"

Under those videos I am finding 10-20 min full length scenes. Some of which have blocked out water marks.

Well he won't accept traffic from any links that have stolen content.

But, I can view twistsy material, and then go view a stolen video...

but when u play the video the twistys ads is not there anymore... so he is not laying

[ladida]

3...2...1... till Shap goes on Lars defense and throws "sheep" in the conversation.

:P

[IllTestYourGirls]

Submitted by
twistys

Are these submitted by twistys as samples? they are only 1 and 2 mins long

and I see twisty banners

[stever]

VG
this is just a dumb argument
every mgp/tgp/blog/freesite/etc/etc advertises more than one sponsor on the same page.

POINTLESS POST

[Max Cheese]

I think this is an idiotic thread, but that ad for sexsearch at the end of the video is pretty fucked up

[Shap]

Hi guys. The use of the video for the most part falls within our acceptable practices.

The banner ads above and next to the content are acceptable. Much like blogs i can't expect the entire page to be devoted to us. So that part is acceptable.

I do have an issue with their video player (ie the ad at the end of the scene). I'll be honest before you pointed that out I never noticed it. Thank you for letting me know. I'm contacting them now about this.

Thanks again from bringing it up.

[SpeakEasy]

Shap is no better than legendary Liar and is out to make a buck anyway he can and could care less about the industry as a whole. Shap dont bother replying to me as I consider you a scumbag and could care less what you have to say.

[Dirty F]

Can you please explain and break this down for me...

thanks..

Why would he? No offense but i don't think he has to justify his business to you? Or to anyone else?

[Shap]

Shap is no better than legendary Liar and is out to make a buck anyway he can and could care less about the industry as a whole. Shap dont bother replying to me as I consider you a scumbag and could care less what you have to say.

Just curious if you hate me so much why do it anonymously? Why not man up and post who you are and what you do? At least I don't hide from any questions or issues. I'm straight up and honest with everyone.

Tell us what sites do you own and run?

[stever]

shap i fucking hate you too! you make great sites and steal all the signups!
lol

[onno]

Just curious if you hate me so much why do it anonymously? Why not man up and post who you are and what you do? At least I don't hide from any questions or issues. I'm straight up and honest with everyone.

Tell us what sites do you own and run?

LOL you got the point shap

now a days seems to be a big trend to use fake names to post bullshit against others. Some people dont have the balls to post with their real name or tell who they represent... too many envious webmasters and programs that are not successful or they are loosing market fast because other people smartest than them are doing a much better job.

[»Rob Content«]

but when u play the video the twistys ads is not there anymore... so he is not laying

When I play the video it ends and it asks me if I want a date from AFF.

[»Rob Content«]

VG
this is just a dumb argument
every mgp/tgp/blog/freesite/etc/etc advertises more than one sponsor on the same page.

POINTLESS POST

Read what Shap said and what he said his "acceptable" deal was with them.

All of these points I made shap said are unacceptable. But, now he cannot control what they do on their own pages.

[»Rob Content«]

Why would he? No offense but i don't think he has to justify his business to you? Or to anyone else?

He made a public statement to address these issues. His statement was false, and what he said their stance was does not fall under what is going on. So when he posts openly on a forum about what he is doing with his business and justify what he is doing, but then in his justification it comes across false and not valid, it opens you up to be questioned about your original points made.

You of all people should know this as you ask people to justify things on here all the time.

[»Rob Content«]

Hi guys. The use of the video for the most part falls within our acceptable practices.

The banner ads above and next to the content are acceptable. Much like blogs i can't expect the entire page to be devoted to us. So that part is acceptable.

I do have an issue with their video player (ie the ad at the end of the scene). I'll be honest before you pointed that out I never noticed it. Thank you for letting me know. I'm contacting them now about this.

Thanks again from bringing it up.

I'm a bit confused, you are doing the Lars now. You said no links to stolen content yet on your page I can watch stolen content. You said no other ads on the page, but they are all over it.

Just say you like the money, and don't try to not answer questions to justify it.

[onno]

He made a public statement to address these issues. His statement was false, and what he said their stance was does not fall under what is going on. So when he posts openly on a forum about what he is doing with his business and justify what he is doing, but then in his justification it comes across false and not valid, it opens you up to be questioned about your original points made.

You of all people should know this as you ask people to justify things on here all the time.

**FROM SHAP A FEW MESSAGES ABOVE THAT ONE**

Hi guys. The use of the video for the most part falls within our acceptable practices.

The banner ads above and next to the content are acceptable. Much like blogs i can't expect the entire page to be devoted to us. So that part is acceptable.

I do have an issue with their video player (ie the ad at the end of the scene). I'll be honest before you pointed that out I never noticed it. Thank you for letting me know. I'm contacting them now about this.

Thanks again from bringing it up.

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[»Rob Content«]

**FROM SHAP A FEW MESSAGES ABOVE THAT ONE**

Hi guys. The use of the video for the most part falls within our acceptable practices.

The banner ads above and next to the content are acceptable. Much like blogs i can't expect the entire page to be devoted to us. So that part is acceptable.

I do have an issue with their video player (ie the ad at the end of the scene). I'll be honest before you pointed that out I never noticed it. Thank you for letting me know. I'm contacting them now about this.

Thanks again from bringing it up.

******************

LOL

I CAN USE CAPS AS WELL..

*********FROM SHAPS ORIGINAL POST*************

- They could use 2 - 3 minute clips to promote Twistys.
- Banners and advertising in and around the clip must be for Twistys and Twistys only.
- We do NOT accept traffic from any links that have stolen content on them.

There are banners all over that page that take me to other programs. Under what Shap said in their stance only Twistys can be IN AND AROUND IT.

When the video is done I can click on it and be taken to AFF.

IN AND AROUND THE VIDEO.

He says that they DO NOT accept traffic from ANY LINKS that have stolen content on them.

Under his content under RELATED VIDEOS I find vids are 15-20 mins long with the water mark blacked out.

So in his "stance" he said none of these are acceptable.

Now they are... Why say it, get caught and then change it??

[onno]

he didn't, the videos are not there...to see them, you have to go to a different page where you cant find his links... anyways, i dunno why i have to explain you that... its not my problem what you have against shap... ur arguments are useless at this point

[V_RocKs]

http://www.redtube.com/974
9 minutes of video... no Twistys ads

[V_RocKs]

http://www.redtube.com/810

this one of yours? 17 minutes

[will76]

Hi guys. The use of the video for the most part falls within our acceptable practices.

The banner ads above and next to the content are acceptable. Much like blogs i can't expect the entire page to be devoted to us. So that part is acceptable.

I do have an issue with their video player (ie the ad at the end of the scene). I'll be honest before you pointed that out I never noticed it. Thank you for letting me know. I'm contacting them now about this.

Thanks again from bringing it up.

For the most part LOLOL So the theives you are working with are *mostly* following your requirements. Big surprise. Even bigger surprise it that you trust them to listen to you in the first place.

Doesn't sound like "ideal affiliates" to me .

you said no stolen content " on the page with your video" but there is all those stolen videos under " related videos" So how do you explain that ????

[V_RocKs]

http://www.redtube.com/855
You don't care that they are fucking other big named sponsors over...

http://www.redtube.com/2446
Naughty America can have 24 minute clips of stolen content... but you are OK with that... just as long as it isn't you...

Wow.. what a fucking douche bag!

You are the adult version of a rat...

[will76]

http://www.redtube.com/974
9 minutes of video... no Twistys ads

LOLOLOL way to go shap. Great choice for people to do business with. They stealing your content still and you in bed with them.


They still look like " ideal affiliates" to you ?

[will76]

http://www.redtube.com/855
You don't care that they are fucking other big named sponsors over...

http://www.redtube.com/2446
Naughty America can have 24 minute clips of stolen content... but you are OK with that... just as long as it isn't you...

Wow.. what a fucking douche bag!

You are the adult version of a rat...

Shap doesn't care. He set a silly requirement list up for redtube that they probably said " ok " and then laughed at him. One of his silly requirements was that there was no stolen content on the page with his videos. Well that has been pointed out several times and he ignores it.

He also does cross sales with Brazzers. Obviously he has moved over to the " dark site" he thinks we should all adapt to "tube" sites. Instead of doign business with legal ones he selected the ones that steal his content.

[will76]

I'm a bit confused, you are doing the Lars now. You said no links to stolen content yet on your page I can watch stolen content. You said no other ads on the page, but they are all over it.

Just say you like the money, and don't try to not answer questions to justify it.

and dont forget he said all the money he makes from redtube will be donated to anti piracy groups or some shit like that

[»Rob Content«]

he didn't, the videos are not there...to see them, you have to go to a different page where you cant find his links... anyways, i dunno why i have to explain you that... its not my problem what you have against shap... ur arguments are useless at this point

I posted links to his videos.. How are they not there?

How can you say he didn't say that?

did you miss his entire first thread?

[»Rob Content«]

he didn't, the videos are not there...to see them, you have to go to a different page where you cant find his links... anyways, i dunno why i have to explain you that... its not my problem what you have against shap... ur arguments are useless at this point

I posted links to his videos.. How are they not there?

How can you say he didn't say that?

did you miss his entire first thread?

Shap, I thought they were being monitored closely?

[V_RocKs]

No matter how much you show Shap this is a bad idea he is going to tell you that you are wrong just so he doesn't have to concede that he was wrong and you are right.

The sign of a true idiot.

[will76]

Why would he? No offense but i don't think he has to justify his business to you? Or to anyone else?

you must have missed the book (thread) he posted trying to justify his decission. He doesnt have to justify anything to anyone but in that thread he obviously cared enough what people thought to post it. He also said he wouldnt allow these things and sure enough he is. Now he is just making excuses about it.

[will76]

LOL you got the point shap

now a days seems to be a big trend to use fake names to post bullshit against others. Some people dont have the balls to post with their real name or tell who they represent... too many envious webmasters and programs that are not successful or they are loosing market fast because other people smartest than them are doing a much better job.

yeah thats it

more like he wants to know who it is so he can sick Michael his lackey on them. I post under my real name how i think, and what so I get. Some fucking MORON who works for Shap telling people I run a pyramid scheme. Its a fucking webmaster referral program and his fucking jack ass employee makes up lies saying i am promising people riches and i am trickign them with a pyramid scheme.

Who the fuck are you btw. no sig no name poster with very little posts. You seem like a shill for shap or at very least like you want to blow him.

[J B]

Shap... you might want to check the pages with your videos from different locations and you might not find any twistys ads next to your videos at all.

If I go to the pages with your videos I get imlive.com and bet-at-home.com ads next and on top of the videos. I tried a few proxies as well and depending on the location, different ads are displayed.

[»Rob Content«]

Shap... you might want to check the pages with your videos from different locations and you might not find any twistys ads next to your videos at all.

If I go to the pages with your videos I get imlive.com and bet-at-home.com ads next and on top of the videos. I tried a few proxies as well and depending on the location, different ads are displayed.

hey nice post.

I'm checking with a proxy now from different places, and same thing.. No twistys ad at all.

Looks like they are really sticking to the deal Shap... can't you see yet they make their money fucking people, they are going to fuck you as well.

[cranki]

Shap... you might want to check the pages with your videos from different locations and you might not find any twistys ads next to your videos at all.

If I go to the pages with your videos I get imlive.com and bet-at-home.com ads next and on top of the videos. I tried a few proxies as well and depending on the location, different ads are displayed.

not a single twisty's ad for me either...

[»Rob Content«]

not a single twisty's ad for me either...

So Shap did these ideal affiliates agree to only carry your banners for some traffic?

[»Rob Content«]

It more appears that you are the ideal program for them. They can still use your content, carry full length scenes, push ads elsewhere, have the video link directly to AFF, not have your banners with their vids, and have your permission to do it. So much that you make a post praising them...

[will76]

hey nice post.

I'm checking with a proxy now from different places, and same thing.. No twistys ad at all.

Looks like they are really sticking to the deal Shap... can't you see yet they make their money fucking people, they are going to fuck you as well.

i can't believe shap expected any less from these people. HELLO SHAP! these people make money by fucking everyone else and stealing other people's content. This isn't an " we must have to adapt to tube sites" it is you choosing to do business with content theives. Actually nothing to do with tube sites at all, the content the stolen content could be on any type of site.

I am just wondering to what length Shap will make excuses for how they are fucking him and not following his " requirements" before he admits he was wrong for expecting content theives to actually be honest and keep their end of the deal.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I'm thinking Shap got himself a whole lot of new webmasters today.

[V_RocKs]

I have a feeling he will make himself feel better by saying, "Yes, of course I told them only US, CA, UK and AU!"

When in reality nothing was discussed.

[ladida]

HAHAHA. Omfg. First it was "Our strict rules", then it was "Okay, they follow them for the most part", and now they're full up sticking it to him by not even carrying the ads when the surfer is from another region. Ahaahha.

It's like when a mother finds out her daughter is doing porn, so its "She's only modeling", to "Okay, she's at least not beeing gangbanged by 3 black dudes and ass gaped".

This board can sure own people I'm taking bets now. Will he throw in the lars defense or back out of the deal?

[Shap]

Good Morning to everyone lol

Wow you guys are on fire today. I said for the most part because I was agreeing they broke our rules. I said in my post I'd be contacting them and they'll either be terminated or rectifying the situation. I guess that wasn't clear in my post.

Thanks for pointing out the differences on the videos based on ip tracking.

As I said yesterday once I hear back from RedTube i will post an update to the situation.

[Shap]

Also thank you to those that pointed out the 9 minute videos. I'm looking into that as well.

[Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE]

4. You own AFF, Brazzers, Sexsearch, and private feeds.

[BVF]

Good Morning to everyone lol

Wow you guys are on fire today. I said for the most part because I was agreeing they broke our rules. I said in my post I'd be contacting them and they'll either be terminated or rectifying the situation. I guess that wasn't clear in my post.

Thanks for pointing out the differences on the videos based on ip tracking.

As I said yesterday once I hear back from RedTube i will post an update to the situation.

It's like I have a crystal ball because I already know what the update will be....

You're not going to look into shit......NOTHING will get done...Redtube will continue to be an affiliate...Twistys will continue to make money, the GFY mob will eventually throw down their pitchforks and throw up their links and all will be just like it was before....

If you want to make money regardless, just say it...It isn't like you will lose any money..In fact, you'll probably make MORE money from the people ready to kiss your ass...

Hell, AFF has been sold for a minute now but I'll bet you that plenty of people on here would drop to their knees in a SECOND and blow him just because he's Lars.