Someone on this board lied about making a donation...

[will76]

Im trying to be a good bro and I am giving the person 24 hours to get in touch with me and provide me proof the donation was made. I am also making sure there is no missunderstanding before I flame someone.

I won a competition a few months back and elected to have the company donate my winnings to webmaster toy run. I contacted webmaster toy run recently to follow up to make sure the donation was made. They said they have never received anything from the individual.

This person now claims to have me on ignore, but I think I have given out enouh information for someone seeing this to know who I am talking about and to contact for me since I can not. I'm not going to name names yet incase he made the donation in his moms name or something crazy like that. The most likely company name and his name was checked and unless Webmaster toy run is missing something they said they never received anything from the guy.

Lets get this taken care of or get me proof if you made the donation and there was a mistake.

[Jens Van Assterdam]

Sig spot!

[StarkReality]

Oops..certainly was a rogue competition!

[candyflip]

Did you really think JimTheFiend would follow through on something like that? Like he's the type to donate even if he could afford it.

[tony286]

a bump for will

[will76]

Did you really think JimTheFiend would follow through on something like that? Like he's the type to donate even if he could afford it.

its not JTF. It is someone that can easily afford to make this donation.

I will be offline for a few hours, hopefully when i log back on this person has contacted me and provided proof the donation has been made.

[CaptainHowdy]

Siggo scrotto...

[Violetta]

bump for some drama!

[NosMo]

And........

NosMo

[TMM_John]

Will you truly are a piece of shit.

This is regarding us and $1500 donation to WMTR. This was of course going on during a very busy time last year and Michelle was supposed to contact WMTR and let them know the donation would be made for this coming holiday season. It will still be made no matter how much of an asshole Will76 is.

Pathetic.

[Fat Panda]

Seems like a fast enough response.

[CyberHustler]

Yeah... My sig is worth more than Bill Gates can afford.

[TMM_John]

Seems like a fast enough response.

Sad that I would even need to reply to someone who would try to use a donation to create drama. But thats his M.O. it seems.

[lazycash]

Will you truly are a piece of shit.

This is regarding us and $1500 donation to WMTR. This was of course going on during a very busy time last year and Michelle was supposed to contact WMTR and let them know the donation would be made for this coming holiday season. It will still be made no matter how much of an asshole Will76 is.

Pathetic.

How is Will a piece of shit because you failed to make a promised donation? Busy or not, you made a commitment and failed to make it happen, I would think an apology would have been in order rather than calling out Will. I sincerely doubt that if Will hadn't of started this thread that you'd have ever made the promised donation.

[lazycash]

Sad that I would even need to reply to someone who would try to use a donation to create drama. But thats his M.O. it seems.

He never named names, all you had to do was email him privately and tell him the donation would be forthcoming, seems you're the one escalating the drama.

[TMM_John]

How is Will a piece of shit because you failed to make a promised donation? Busy or not, you made a commitment and failed to make it happen, I would think an apology would have been in order rather than calling out Will. I sincerely doubt that if Will hadn't of started this thread that you'd have ever made the promised donation.

Will is an asshole. He could have just as easily have called me or ICQ'd me to say "Hey, John what happened with that donation?", and he would have gotten the same answer that was posted here. But he had to make a drama thread on GFY about it.

Just like he was so interested in an update on the security issue for the past few months that as soon as we posted a thread about a special offer he had to jump in it with his drama and bring it up. If he really had an interest in knowing what was going on I am very reachable and he could have reached out to me. The truth is he doesn't have an interest in finding things out, the only thing he cares about is creating drama here and getting attention. His track record over the past year or two is that time and time again. This makes him, as I said, a piece of shit and why he landed himself on my ignore list.

[TMM_John]

He never named names, all you had to do was email him privately and tell him the donation would be forthcoming, seems you're the one escalating the drama.

So I should email him privately, but he should come here and make a thread. Odd.

[Jman]

He never named names, all you had to do was email him privately and tell him the donation would be forthcoming, seems you're the one escalating the drama.

Yup looks like John jumped the gun on this one

[TMM_John]

Yup looks like John jumped the gun on this one

So if I have business to take care of with you I should contact you or I should post a thread here threating you anonymously that I am going to call you out for something if you don't meet my demands? There's a right way to do things and a wrong way. The person who started this thread chose the wrong way.

[tony286]

John he didnt name you and so you just could of contacted him. Instead of putting on the show here.

[TMM_John]

John he didnt name you and so you just could of contacted him. Instead of putting on the show here.

Please see above replies. He could have contacted me instead of starting a show here.

[lazycash]

So I should email him privately, but he should come here and make a thread. Odd.

Yes you should have emailed him, you made the mistake, not him, he was gracious enough not to call you out by name. I always wonder why some in the industry are so hyper sensitive to using gfy to communicate especially when no details are even being discussed.

[tranza]

So you guys had 3 months to made the donation, and never made it?

But still, the asshole is Will for pointing this out?

[will76]

Will you truly are a piece of shit.

This is regarding us and $1500 donation to WMTR. This was of course going on during a very busy time last year and Michelle was supposed to contact WMTR and let them know the donation would be made for this coming holiday season. It will still be made no matter how much of an asshole Will76 is.

Pathetic.

Hey John, I would have contacted you personally but you said previously you have me on ignore.

BTW, I am not making up drama over a donation. That is why I didn't call you out, you choose to "out" yourself. You could have contacted me and said " opps we forgot and we will make the donation now." and I would have let this thread die.... hence the " 24 hours to contact me and get this settled" comments I made.

So, you didn't make the donation 2 months ago because you were " too busy", you "out yourself" in this thread, and then you call me an asshole and that I am making drama over a donation.

John, you seriously have problems man.

Keep in mind this contest was something you ran back in JULY and a winner was suppose to be announced August 1st. A winner wasn't announced till Dec because you were " too busy". Then you talk about how generious I was to donate the winnings and that it would to a good cause but you couldn't take the 10 minutes to make donation????

The donation was suppose to be for last holiday season not this upcoming one. And no need for you to wait 10 months to donate it, I am pretty sure they take donations through out the year.

And I am an asshole ? You are a piece of work John.

[Buzz]

So you guys had 3 months to made the donation, and never made it?

But still, the asshole is Will for pointing this out?

exactly my thoughts

[will76]

POSTED ON: 12-13-2007


On another board:

We're finally going to announce a winner from our long overdue thread contest.

Will76 for his thread here: http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

We have spoken with Will and he has graciously decided to donate the winnings
to the Webmaster Toy Run!

Thanks Will!

Due to our being so late in getting this taken care of and our happiness of what Will has decided to do we will be adding another $500 to the amount for a total donation of $1500!

Its long over due but in the end I think it worked out for the best as those getting the money truly need it the most!

John it took you longer to make the announcement post than it would have for you to make the donation. This was still 2 weeks before Christmas, why didn't you make the donation last year... now you saying you will do it "this upcoming holiday season" wtf, if you saying you going to do something then do it. Don't act like a piece of shit and say you going to donate money and then back out of it. If you can't afford it or don't want to spend the money then don't offer to do it in the first place.

[pornask]

another shady business that puts greed over everything else.

[will76]

Sad that I would even need to reply to someone who would try to use a donation to create drama. But thats his M.O. it seems.

YOU are using the donation (err. you didn't even make a donation yet) for DRAMA.


MY " M.O." is to cause drama about donation ? WTF are you talking about.

I said in this thread I would NOT name names if this was resolved. Instead you decided to put your name in the spot light, and you accuse me of making drama about this.

What I was hoping would have happend from this thread was YOU contacting me saying you donated the money and there was a mistake, or opps we forgot we are doing it now. AND I WOULD HAVE LET THE THREAD DIE.

You "outed" yourself, and you call me a piece of shit. What part of this don't you understand John?

[will76]

Please see above replies. He could have contacted me instead of starting a show here.

earth to John, you told me you have me on "ignore". I take that as ICQ, GFY etc...

Why should I have contacted you when I didn't name you in this thread. I didn't point fingers at anyone. I asked for the people involved to contact me, not "out " themselves in this thread and then cry like a baby because I didn't contact you directly.... when you have me on ignore.. lol ???

John, you fucked up pal. Stop trying to defend yourself and make the fucking donation already. Christ you are piece of work.

[BradM]

John has come off many times here as a REALLY REALLY REALLY angry guy.

Sort of weird behavior from him on a regular basis. I don't know him, never talked to him and have nothing against him. I just see him going COMPLETELY off the handle and deep end a lot here.

[JustDaveXxx]

I love this guy!!!! GFY police captain!!


I will hold them you punch them!! lol

[mattyboy]

John has come off many times here as a REALLY REALLY REALLY angry guy.

Sort of weird behavior from him on a regular basis. I don't know him, never talked to him and have nothing against him. I just see him going COMPLETELY off the handle and deep end a lot here.

Thats the impression i get and i'm sure many others

[will76]

Will is an asshole. He could have just as easily have called me or ICQ'd me to say "Hey, John what happened with that donation?", and he would have gotten the same answer that was posted here. But he had to make a drama thread on GFY about it.

Just like he was so interested in an update on the security issue for the past few months that as soon as we posted a thread about a special offer he had to jump in it with his drama and bring it up. If he really had an interest in knowing what was going on I am very reachable and he could have reached out to me. The truth is he doesn't have an interest in finding things out, the only thing he cares about is creating drama here and getting attention. His track record over the past year or two is that time and time again. This makes him, as I said, a piece of shit and why he landed himself on my ignore list.

John, If i didn't care about the donation, I would have given you my paypal account and asked you to send me the $1000 I won. Do you really think I said " hey John I don't need the money lets donate it to a good cause.... " but Iwas secretly hoping that you would not make the donation so I could call you out for it 3 months later. DO you really think that was my plan from the beginning. All you had to do was make the fucking donation and I wouldn't have made this thread.

Why should I have to contact you "privatly" to make sure you made a donation you were suppose to do 3 months ago. Isn't it your responsibility to make it ???? And keep in mind you have me on ignore, and you outed your self in this thread.

And oh i simply asked for an update about the NATS problems from a few months back, OMG... i asked for an update. I must be a drama whore. How dare anyone ask for an update, how the investigation is going.

I hope people are seeing your true colors John. And you want me to " trust you" that all the ex ibill people working a SEGPay are great people.... when you can't even make a fucking donation and you get pissed because I ask for a NATS update?

[pornask]

So let's see if I understand it correctly:

- too much media or some other "business" that PBucksJohn is affiliated with collects money from people uses the "donation" excuse to get as much as possible

- money collected is never donated but used for whatever other purpose

- someone notices that and asks what the fuck was going on and why the money was not donated as promised

- PBucksJohn comes and starts a name calling rampage and personal attacks to steer away from the real issue - to hide the fact that they never donated the money

This is the lowest of the low. Cheating people by making them believe they are donating the money only to collect it and keep for themselves? And need to be called out to take action and their action is personal attacks against the person who pointed out their cheat... If this is what is happening here, then all I can say is – WOW! Somebody actually does business with these people?

[ladida]

Lol. Donation that was supposed to go last Christmas is "postponed" to next one. WOA BABY. Those children will be extatic. "HAY guys, you're not gona get a present this year, but you will get it next year! BE HAPPY"

And Will is an asshole? Weird how some people's mind works.

[JustDaveXxx]

Wow!! Get em Will!!


I need to run off and degrade women on film, will be back to see how this plays out..lol


This is better than TV..lol

[TMM_John]

So let's see if I understand it correctly:

- too much media or some other "business" that PBucksJohn is affiliated with collects money from people uses the "donation" excuse to get as much as possible

- money collected is never donated but used for whatever other purpose

- someone notices that and asks what the fuck was going on and why the money was not donated as promised

- PBucksJohn comes and starts a name calling rampage and personal attacks to steer away from the real issue - to hide the fact that they never donated the money

This is the lowest of the low. Cheating people by making them believe they are donating the money only to collect it and keep for themselves? And need to be called out to take action and their action is personal attacks against the person who pointed out their cheat... If this is what is happening here, then all I can say is ? WOW! Somebody actually does business with these people?

No, thats completely off base.

Will won a contest and decided to donate his prize to the charity. No money was collected. This was roughly 10 days before the holiday the donation was for.

Charlie, who handles all of our finances was out of town at that point until after the new year and we were going through a bit of an issue that had me very tied up to say the least.

As the days ticked off and I realized it was only a few days to the holiday I asked Michelle to contact WMTR and let them know we would make the donation for the following season. Apparently that didn't happen.

No one collected money on behalf of a charity and stole it. No one ever intended not to make any donation. Things just simply couldn't happen in a few days with what was going on.

[LiveDose]

What a weird thread.

[Holly]

No, thats completely off base.

Will won a contest and decided to donate his prize to the charity. No money was collected. This was roughly 10 days before the holiday the donation was for.

Charlie, who handles all of our finances was out of town at that point until after the new year and we were going through a bit of an issue that had me very tied up to say the least.

As the days ticked off and I realized it was only a few days to the holiday I asked Michelle to contact WMTR and let them know we would make the donation for the following season. Apparently that didn't happen.

No one collected money on behalf of a charity and stole it. No one ever intended not to make any donation. Things just simply couldn't happen in a few days with what was going on.

Why didn't you just donate $1500 of your own money right then and let the biz reimburse you later? It would have taken 5 mins tops in epass.

[pornask]

No, thats completely off base.

Will won a contest and decided to donate his prize to the charity. No money was collected. This was roughly 10 days before the holiday the donation was for.

Charlie, who handles all of our finances was out of town at that point until after the new year and we were going through a bit of an issue that had me very tied up to say the least.

As the days ticked off and I realized it was only a few days to the holiday I asked Michelle to contact WMTR and let them know we would make the donation for the following season. Apparently that didn't happen.

No one collected money on behalf of a charity and stole it. No one ever intended not to make any donation. Things just simply couldn't happen in a few days with what was going on.

Appreciate your response, clearing this up. Hope you're both able to sort this out

[tony286]

John, you really should think about hiring a PR person, I ve heard people say really nice things about you. You come across awful on this board.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I Invented Donations.

[BradM]

John, you really should think about hiring a PR person, I ve heard people say really nice things about you. You come across awful on this board.

If tony404 says it, it's pretty much true.

John - why are you so angry?

[tony286]

If tony404 says it, it's pretty much true.

John - why are you so angry?

If you dont like me,then put me on ignore.I dont bust your balls please have the courtesy not to bust mine.

[papill0n]

Don't think Brad was busting your balls Tony

[tony286]

Don't think Brad was busting your balls Tony

He has already stated before he doesnt like me and thats fine. Then ignore me.

[papill0n]

I am with will on this one. No need to have to chase monies owed. That shit is not cool.

[Dollarmansteve]

as far as I can tell from observation, will76 spends the vast majority of his time either being a crusader for the lastest industry "cause" or looking for / manufacturing the next 'cause' as some weird kind of narcissistic ego masturbation.

I assume this is mixed in with various webmastery type activities, like referralmatrix. The term 'self-righteous sigwhore zealot' comes to mind but is perhaps a little harsh.

[papill0n]

He has already stated before he doesnt like me and thats fine. Then ignore me.

Oh ok my bad then. Still early for me

[BradM]

He has already stated before he doesnt like me and thats fine. Then ignore me.

What are you talking about asshole? I was giving you a compliment. Get fucked.