Domain registrar refuses to turn off transfer lock... what to do?

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  • dready
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 5247

    #1

    Domain registrar refuses to turn off transfer lock... what to do?

    A couple days ago, I decided to transfer all my domains over to namecheap. I turned off whois privacy and the lock on them all, and then initiated the transfer.

    It turns out that after I made the changes, all my whois searches were giving errors and wouldn't display. Namecheap had to manually confirm the whois data for everything and then sent the confirmation emails. The transfers were all automatically cancelled because the locks were still on in whois.

    I had put in a ticket my registrar right at the beginning just to confirm the changes went through ok and they replied "Why would we do this?"

    I replied and there was no response.

    I left two messages with them and they didn't call back.

    I made another support ticket, and then emailed cheapies.com (it's their reseller) asking if they can provide support because my registrar was unresponsive.

    I got one response back finally saying they would have their techs look at it.

    Then just now I get another response saying:

    "Well no point in answering you, considering you go to other places and incorrectly state that we are unresponsive."

    WTF IS THIS???

    Can they legally fuck with me like this just because I want to leave them? Not to mention I still have $100 in my account there that they refuse to refund.
    Last edited by dready; 03-14-2008, 12:21 PM.
    ICQ: 91139591
  • polish_aristocrat
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2002
    • 40377

    #2
    sounds like a terrible experience and it shows once again that everyone should use responsible/reliable companies for their domains

    good luck in sorting this out, looks like you'll need it
    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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    • Phoenix
      BACON BACON BACON
      • Nov 2002
      • 35475

      #3
      what registrar is doing this?
      Telegram PhoenixBrad
      https://quantads.io

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      • polish_aristocrat
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2002
        • 40377

        #4
        anyone knows the law on this, btw?

        is the registrar required to always approve the transfer request, assuming it is legit?
        or is there a loophole that would allow a registrar to simply deny legit transfer request for whatever reason?

        I assume first option is the case and the registrar has no right to act like that, in that case bodies like ICANN should be contacted, then again I have my doubts if ICANN really acts and helps in such invividual cases
        I don't use ICQ anymore.

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        • Mike Semen
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2001
          • 2924

          #5
          Which registrar is this?
          ICQ 1454 81 522 |

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          • dready
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2002
            • 5247

            #6
            domainnamesystems.com

            They used to be good and had good support. Their prices haven't kept up and their website is a buggy PoS.

            Check out their most recent email after I (politely) went off the handle:

            "Well you arent exactly a customer if you are moving your domains away, so thats not necessarily a good bargaining chip. I mean what exactly makes you think that by telling us you are moving your domains away, you are a customer?"
            ICQ: 91139591

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            • PainThing
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2003
              • 368

              #7
              I would suggest you contact a dn lawyer...

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              • Stallion
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2001
                • 6632

                #8
                that sucks, hope you get it all worked out.
                Project Manager/Program Manager/Webmaster Seeking Work

                [email protected] icq 856554

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                • dready
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 5247

                  #9
                  Now this: "Everything is done in queue, they'll be unlocked when tech gets to it."
                  ICQ: 91139591

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                  • u-Bob
                    there's no $$$ in porn
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 33063

                    #10
                    throw up a page about this on a non-adult domain... and start digg-ing it.

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                    • s9ann0
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2001
                      • 4873

                      #11
                      http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archiv.../t-621407.html
                      it seems you are no the only one thats having a hard time moving names from Cheapies

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                      • DjiXas
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1108

                        #12
                        Good luck with that dude, try contact ICANN but I think they are just resellers, lemme know any domain name you own, will check.

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                        • MaDalton
                          I am Amazing Content!
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 39861

                          #13
                          and people complain about godaddy...
                          AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003
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                          Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you!
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                          • Mike Semen
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 2924

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dready
                            "Well you arent exactly a customer if you are moving your domains away, so thats not necessarily a good bargaining chip. I mean what exactly makes you think that by telling us you are moving your domains away, you are a customer?"
                            That is fucking outrageous.
                            ICQ 1454 81 522 |

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                            • dready
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 5247

                              #15
                              After some emails back and forth, he said give it two days and when I see the lock off in whois, to retry the transfer.

                              If he had just said this in reply to my first support ticket two days ago, all this drama would have been avoided.
                              ICQ: 91139591

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                              • Naja-ram
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 639

                                #16
                                i find this all very hard to believe.
                                are these guys a support staff or a mafia squad ?????

                                how do we know you are not making all this up ?
                                Last edited by Naja-ram; 04-07-2008, 06:43 AM.
                                http://www.muslimmatrimonial.com/

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                                • dready
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 5247

                                  #17
                                  I have all this documented in emails. The guy who owns DomainNameSystems.com and Cheapies.com is just a huge asshole. I'm not the only one he's harassed for taking business elsewhere. I did eventually get my domains moved as ICANN has rules against this kind of thing, but he made it very difficult. It took me 2-3 weeks and a lot of stress.
                                  ICQ: 91139591

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                                  • Net Money
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2007
                                    • 539

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                    and people complain about godaddy...
                                    They also suck...

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                                    • GAMEFINEST
                                      Make STACK$
                                      • Nov 2006
                                      • 14478

                                      #19
                                      I dont deal with any registrars except dynadot.com, enom moniker, godaddy
                                      Compound interest.

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                                      • notoldschool
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Aug 2007
                                        • 5687

                                        #20
                                        should have went with GODADDY.
                                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                        -- Learned Hand

                                        http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                        • tranza
                                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 57559

                                          #21
                                          Wow, how fucked up is that????
                                          I'm just a newbie.

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                                          • WiredGuy
                                            Pounding Googlebot
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 34512

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MaDalton
                                            and people complain about godaddy...
                                            At least his domains are still working on the old registrar. GoDaddy will just suspend your pages.
                                            WG
                                            I play with Google.

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                                            • acctman
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 2840

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by dready
                                              A couple days ago, I decided to transfer all my domains over to namecheap. I turned off whois privacy and the lock on them all, and then initiated the transfer.

                                              It turns out that after I made the changes, all my whois searches were giving errors and wouldn't display. Namecheap had to manually confirm the whois data for everything and then sent the confirmation emails. The transfers were all automatically cancelled because the locks were still on in whois.

                                              I had put in a ticket my registrar right at the beginning just to confirm the changes went through ok and they replied "Why would we do this?"

                                              I replied and there was no response.

                                              I left two messages with them and they didn't call back.

                                              I made another support ticket, and then emailed cheapies.com (it's their reseller) asking if they can provide support because my registrar was unresponsive.

                                              I got one response back finally saying they would have their techs look at it.

                                              Then just now I get another response saying:

                                              "Well no point in answering you, considering you go to other places and incorrectly state that we are unresponsive."

                                              WTF IS THIS???

                                              Can they legally fuck with me like this just because I want to leave them? Not to mention I still have $100 in my account there that they refuse to refund.
                                              Cheapies / Domainnamesystems .... I had the exact same problem almost had to get a lawyer. It seems with the new auth code process that has been added to domains they're using that as a means to hold people and not allow them to transfer. I posted on webhostingtalk.com (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=621407) about my problems. It honestly took close too 20+ calls and emails before domainnamesystems (which is also owned by cheapies) released my domains. They ended up locking me out of my account afterwards and saying I abused there support system. I ended up filing a compliant with ICANN.

                                              all my domains are with godaddy and namecheap, never again will I use a small company like cheapies or domainnamesytems. I started out with them cause some from the old webmaster chat recommended them about 5-6yrs ago.

                                              anyway good luck, I got a pretty nasty email from them in the end and they close my account and relocked all my domains. with help from godaddy and namecheap i was still able to move all my domains in the end.

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                                              • CherryLipsRosa
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Mar 2004
                                                • 3603

                                                #24
                                                Well maybe it is time for someone to put a stop to this abuse and maybe just go after them
                                                Rosalia M.
                                                ICQ.12150439
                                                Skype. cherrylipsrosa

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                                                • DaddyHalbucks
                                                  A freakin' legend!
                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 18975

                                                  #25
                                                  But look on the bright side, you saved $0.50 at a discount registrar.
                                                  Boner Money

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                                                  • John.
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jul 2007
                                                    • 2264

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by dready
                                                    domainnamesystems.com

                                                    They used to be good and had good support. Their prices haven't kept up and their website is a buggy PoS.

                                                    Check out their most recent email after I (politely) went off the handle:

                                                    "Well you arent exactly a customer if you are moving your domains away, so thats not necessarily a good bargaining chip. I mean what exactly makes you think that by telling us you are moving your domains away, you are a customer?"
                                                    He's a customer because he has paid for a service. Simple.
                                                    Sig too old.

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                                                    • Naja-ram
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                      • 639

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                      should have went with GODADDY.
                                                      you're fucking brain dead, do you have any idea what's godaddy policy on spam complaints ? did you read WG's thread ? or any other thread for that matter that has godaddy in their title ? godaddy are capitalist shit heads that will stomp on you the first chance they have, oh but let me guess: "never had any problems with them...geeee....duhh...." THERE IS ALWAYS A FIRST TIME AND WHEN WERE ARE TALKING ABOUT GODADDY THAT FIRST TIME IS A FUCKING SCANDAL !!!!
                                                      Last edited by Naja-ram; 04-09-2008, 07:43 AM.
                                                      http://www.muslimmatrimonial.com/

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                                                      • Naja-ram
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                        • 639

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by GAMEFINEST
                                                        I dont deal with any registrars except dynadot.com, enom moniker, godaddy
                                                        godaddy ?! get ready to get fucked
                                                        http://www.muslimmatrimonial.com/

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                                                        • sandman!
                                                          Icq: 14420613
                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                          • 15431

                                                          #29
                                                          you post on boards slamming them after you get your domains out not before.

                                                          what you did was stupid.

                                                          every registrar is a bitch when you want to leave so more then others
                                                          Need WebHosting ? Email me for some great deals [email protected]

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