Can we get a banning on all the dumb, ignorant pieces of shit fucking up the board?
I vote for banning all the dumb fucks
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Ok Ill give you a shot to convert me over.
Name the top 5 reasons you are voting for Obama. Make sure none of them have anything to do with the other candidate. Just simply 5 of your top reasons. These can be his political accomplishments, his plan for the country, whatever just be specific.Comment
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Assuming we aren't talking about nut case possible things.. just based on what he has said.Ok Ill give you a shot to convert me over.
Name the top 5 reasons you are voting for Obama. Make sure none of them have anything to do with the other candidate. Just simply 5 of your top reasons. These can be his political accomplishments, his plan for the country, whatever just be specific.
1) Healthcare for at least children, which is cheap. A double shot in one: A huge push for preventive care, about time! Do I get 3 in one? Healthcare for people born with life problems that don't deserve to be pushed aside.
2) "IF" he was to say what he says about Gov, killing un-needed programs, reducing others, from fed to state. I like the idea of a small gov that spends as little money as possible.
3) Iraq, war is war, and I don't think we should just run. But 10b a month is way off the chart and he is correct, we should be using that oil/money to pay for this, us, them, whatever. Unlike now, where we steal parts of it through corps.
4) I own several Companies, I hate that we "might" have to pay higher Corp tax. I like the idea that the loop holes will be killed. Now, if he follows up and lowers taxes because it's now "fair"...then a double shot of good.
5) And in International news: He is correct, the previous Bush policy of fuck you, does not work. Putting the proper people in place, using other Countries, and trying to work with others, actually does work. And again, if he holds to what he said, he will deal with any war problems, if needed.
Now, I tried to select 5 different things between the two.. And I tried to give you a selection of topics. I'm not saying every idea is perfect, and no he doesn't have a full list game plan for us to view (not that anyone does), but he does have ideas and his ideas in theory would work if executed correctly.Last edited by TheDoc; 10-11-2008, 04:24 PM.
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How will that be paid for?Assuming we aren't talking about nut case possible things.. just based on what he has said.
1) Healthcare for at least children, which is cheap. A double shot in one: A huge push for preventive care, about time! Do I get 3 in one? Healthcare for people born with life problems that don't deserve to be pushed aside.
You seriously think Obama is going to reduce government? And you say this one line after saying he is going to make health care be paid by our taxes? Really??
Shouldn't shrink it should increase it till its finished. Id rather have a big burst than a slow leak.
Obama isn't going to help your companies, he will hurt them. He doesn't understand that businesses are the ones that hire people. Cutting taxes to people that barely pay any taxes won't help anything. When was the last time that you were hired by someone that makes less than 200k per year?
Are we talking about the guy that went and gave speeches in other countries before he was even the actual nominee of the democratic party? I hate presumptuous people like him. Him and Kerry are cut from the same smug cloth.5) And in International news: He is correct, the previous Bush policy of fuck you, does not work. Putting the proper people in place, using other Countries, and trying to work with others, actually does work. And again, if he holds to what he said, he will deal with any war problems, if needed.
Im not ready to vote for someone that started his Presidential campaign before he even had 1 year as a Jr. Senator. Why in the fuckin world did this guy even have a shot yet? There are thousands of better choices on the democrat side. This guy gets a shot due to some speech he gave at the dem convention? Maybe the republicans should of ran Zell Miller then?Now, I tried to select 5 different things between the two.. And I tried to give you a selection of topics. I'm not saying every idea is perfect, and no he doesn't have a full list game plan for us to view (not that anyone does), but he does have ideas and his ideas in theory would work if executed correctly.Comment
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Good Lord. How does a thread about dumb motherfuckers on this board turn into a conversation about the election? I could start a thread about mayonnaise and by the second post we'd be talking about if Obama likes mayo on his sandwiches.Comment
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Just got back from dinner... answer this one question about the Republican party. Why is your party so filled with hate and ignorance?? I'll admit... I have Republican friends and it's always interesting to hear their responses. My party (Dem) don't put up with that shit and don't thrive on fear tactics. You should be ashamed of your party and apparently Grandpa is also... you see his eyes and facial expressions this past week. It made him sick hearing the nonsense coming from those ralliesOk Ill give you a shot to convert me over.
Name the top 5 reasons you are voting for Obama. Make sure none of them have anything to do with the other candidate. Just simply 5 of your top reasons. These can be his political accomplishments, his plan for the country, whatever just be specific.
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lol Ok I figured you couldn't do it. Lets answer what I asked first, then Ill answer some questions.Just got back from dinner... answer this one question about the Republican party. Why is your party so filled with hate and ignorance?? I'll admit... I have Republican friends and it's always interesting to hear their responses. My party (Dem) don't put up with that shit and don't thrive on fear tactics. You should be ashamed of your party and apparently Grandpa is also... you see his eyes and facial expressions this past week. It made him sick hearing the nonsense coming from those rallies
BTW I've had people from your party spit on me and young children. Tear signs out of veterans hands and curse them out. Call soliders baby murderers etc. So don't preach to me about how great the Dem party is, and how Republicans are all just hate mongers.Comment
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Way to avoid the question, fanboy.Just got back from dinner... answer this one question about the Republican party. Why is your party so filled with hate and ignorance?? I'll admit... I have Republican friends and it's always interesting to hear their responses. My party (Dem) don't put up with that shit and don't thrive on fear tactics. You should be ashamed of your party and apparently Grandpa is also... you see his eyes and facial expressions this past week. It made him sick hearing the nonsense coming from those rallies
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Reduction in Gov, reduction in war spending, correction in corporate taxes, and that tax on the upper class. And whatever else he does, it all adds up.
Reduction in Gov pays for healthcare, already provided by the Gov. So we aren't setting up a new program to fund, it's already here.
Let's see, go off of what McCain has said he will do to reduce gov / lower taxes or healthcare. Or go for the man that actually gave an answer on how he could or might, be able to help.
If he doesn't do it, well then I lost nothing. But if he does.. amazing.
We shouldn't stay in, 16 months is to long. 6 weeks, and a peace keeping group and force the UN to help. That's what should really happen. Only about 1000 things in history that prove this war is wrong, and now we see the results of it. Staying, makes it worse.
Now, in our Gov terms, 16 months is prob to fast. But with Obama lovin the UN I have no doubt they will step up and take the slack.
First, the higher income tax increase is for social services, like health care.Obama isn't going to help your companies, he will hurt them. He doesn't understand that businesses are the ones that hire people. Cutting taxes to people that barely pay any taxes won't help anything. When was the last time that you were hired by someone that makes less than 200k per year?
I don't expect him to help Companies. I have been running a business for 11 years and haven't had any help from any president.
Going of his word, which is all I have and more than McCain has said. I expect him to make the playing field fair. And if that is achieved, then lowering taxes to match the rates of other Countries is understandable. Reducing the holes also reduces the error.
Reducing Company tax does not create jobs just like allowing loans to small businesses doesn't pay for jobs. Reducing the tax on Money brought into the Country, has produced Jobs.. Which is the area Obama is talking about reducing if the other areas can be corrected.
Kinda hard to tell me the man doesn't know business when he is attacking the exact real problems with solutions. And again, a lot more than McCain has suggested. Saying, "my friends" I know how to reduce your Corp taxes, he never says how much, when, how or what areas..
I have to buy the mans bullshit with the game plan over the man just calling me his friend.
Yeah, I guess... if that's how you want to see him. Not really any different than any of the others so I don't know what to say.
That's fair if you don't want to vote for experience, however we have had some great presidents with very little experience. It's actually been a big mixture all throughout history, both have done good and bad things.Im not ready to vote for someone that started his Presidential campaign before he even had 1 year as a Jr. Senator. Why in the fuckin world did this guy even have a shot yet? There are thousands of better choices on the democrat side. This guy gets a shot due to some speech he gave at the dem convention? Maybe the republicans should of ran Zell Miller then?
I don't know if the Dems have someone better or not. You asked about info on him and I provided it.
Personally, I'm not a Democrat.
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Well being nearly everything you agree with Obama on involves penalizing success Im going to have to disagree with you. Growth is what we need. By his plan those that can afford to spread wealth will not due to higher taxes. I believe in Reganomics. Yes things trickle down.Reduction in Gov, reduction in war spending, correction in corporate taxes, and that tax on the upper class. And whatever else he does, it all adds up.
Reduction in Gov pays for healthcare, already provided by the Gov. So we aren't setting up a new program to fund, it's already here.
Let's see, go off of what McCain has said he will do to reduce gov / lower taxes or healthcare. Or go for the man that actually gave an answer on how he could or might, be able to help.
If he doesn't do it, well then I lost nothing. But if he does.. amazing.
We shouldn't stay in, 16 months is to long. 6 weeks, and a peace keeping group and force the UN to help. That's what should really happen. Only about 1000 things in history that prove this war is wrong, and now we see the results of it. Staying, makes it worse.
Now, in our Gov terms, 16 months is prob to fast. But with Obama lovin the UN I have no doubt they will step up and take the slack.
First, the higher income tax increase is for social services, like health care.
I don't expect him to help Companies. I have been running a business for 11 years and haven't had any help from any president.
Going of his word, which is all I have and more than McCain has said. I expect him to make the playing field fair. And if that is achieved, then lowering taxes to match the rates of other Countries is understandable. Reducing the holes also reduces the error.
Reducing Company tax does not create jobs just like allowing loans to small businesses doesn't pay for jobs. Reducing the tax on Money brought into the Country, has produced Jobs.. Which is the area Obama is talking about reducing if the other areas can be corrected.
Kinda hard to tell me the man doesn't know business when he is attacking the exact real problems with solutions. And again, a lot more than McCain has suggested. Saying, "my friends" I know how to reduce your Corp taxes, he never says how much, when, how or what areas..
I have to buy the mans bullshit with the game plan over the man just calling me his friend.
Yeah, I guess... if that's how you want to see him. Not really any different than any of the others so I don't know what to say.
That's fair if you don't want to vote for experience, however we have had some great presidents with very little experience. It's actually been a big mixture all throughout history, both have done good and bad things.
I don't know if the Dems have someone better or not. You asked about info on him and I provided it.
Personally, I'm not a Democrat.
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Evade much?Just got back from dinner... answer this one question about the Republican party. Why is your party so filled with hate and ignorance?? I'll admit... I have Republican friends and it's always interesting to hear their responses. My party (Dem) don't put up with that shit and don't thrive on fear tactics. You should be ashamed of your party and apparently Grandpa is also... you see his eyes and facial expressions this past week. It made him sick hearing the nonsense coming from those rallies
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First off Sticky you are a perfect example how the republicans have gotten people to vote against their own best interests. Also news Flash Iraq is never going to end cleanly.Those people have fought for hundreds of years. We never should of went there. This fucked up added to the crisis we have now.Comment
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Trickle down doesnt work because the rich dont tickle down any more they tickle off shore. Also have you not been paying attention for the last 8 yrs?Well being nearly everything you agree with Obama on involves penalizing success Im going to have to disagree with you. Growth is what we need. By his plan those that can afford to spread wealth will not due to higher taxes. I believe in Reganomics. Yes things trickle down.
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1.Healthcare plan _ ( who cares how he pays for it..we're already asshole deep in debt) at least I can live longer
2. Iraq war- Need to get out, need to spend the $10billion at home
3. 80% of the world would respect and give us another try if Obama is elected
4. Giving hope to a "normal" minority with no money or born w/out silver spoon, that they have a chance in the USA
5. he's in top notch shape, I've heard people working out more, because he's so fit. It gives you a good feeling to see him. I feel he would put some much needed confidence in the the US
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Which "people" have fought for hundreds of years exactly? How is voting republican against my best interests ? Because I work in porn? We all got through the "evil Bush" administration. So are you saying McCain will be harder on this industry than Bush was? I mean Bush that evil meany supported 2257 which tried to regulate and make sure proper documentation was made to ensure the models we shoot were over 18. While a lot of it was fucked up due to the government just not understanding the situation I don't think it was a terrible law, though I am glad it is currently defunct.First off Sticky you are a perfect example how the republicans have gotten people to vote against their own best interests. Also news Flash Iraq is never going to end cleanly.Those people have fought for hundreds of years. We never should of went there. This fucked up added to the crisis we have now.Comment
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Yes who cares how he pays for it. Rah Rah for socialism.
Need to get out blah blah. We need to FINISH it not just get out.
Sorry I am from the U.S.A not France, not Italy. They don't get a vote.
Ahh to show that a minority can be President. So I am assuming that you put some campaign funds into Alan Keys pockets over the years???

Ahh so Im guessing that you were a firm Reagan support with his push for nation wide fitness then? Remember the guy he put as the spokesperson for that?

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I don't think taxing the higher income is penalizing success. I pay less tax than probably 99% of the middle class, how is that fair or penalizing my success?Well being nearly everything you agree with Obama on involves penalizing success Im going to have to disagree with you. Growth is what we need. By his plan those that can afford to spread wealth will not due to higher taxes. I believe in Reganomics. Yes things trickle down.
And correcting tax issues, then lowering taxes, isn't any kind of penalty, it's good business.
You can believe in Reagan's policies, but you are following a failed idea that straight up didn't work.
The U.S. already is a Socialist Country... Rep or Dem president, the changes have happened and will continue to happen. Or we can just continue to ignore the poor in this Country, like we have, as we step over them, ignore them in schools, and so on.. Nothing like caring for America as you build more schools in Iraq and rip down schools here....
Add to that McCain is taking about sending money to Georgia, all types of allies, to build with.. So we have enough money to "help the social interests of that country", but ignore our own.
That just doesn't make any logic.
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Correct, you are American and should demand your Gov and Country be the best, at everything. Rather than looked at, feared basically, as hate/killing machines.
What does it matter? Trade, business, taxes, policies, war, everything...
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Keep in mind perception, and reality are two entirely different animals.Comment
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In this case, the perception is the reality. We are hate killing machines that started an illegal war, did get help then ignored by most nations once they found out we lied. Our War hungry Gov lied to the people several several times. Now our political and economic levels are a joke to most nations and the people of the world look at the American Citizens and wonder why we haven't put a stop to it.
Reality just kicked perception in the balls.
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Sticky..u asked why I was voting for him and I told you, I didn't ask you for a rebuttle and you're rebuttles are stupid
Socialism is happening as we speak. the US now owns evereything
Finish in iraq..HOW DO WE "FINISH"..no one can answer that for some reasonComment
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You think Socialism is a good thing? Seriously?
How do we finish in Iraq? When that government can handle all its own shit, then we are finished.Comment
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Why does anybody give a shit about converting him? He has the right to vote for whoever the fuck he wants....
However, the difference in 2008 is that there aren't enough people left that still think like him for it to make a difference...
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Some Socialism IS a good thing. Total Socialism where the Gov controls/owns everything, isn't. Nobody wants Communism. If you don't have any Social programs from the Gov you have some serious problems with the people.
You have social programs all around you, you probably use them. Ever been to College, get a low interest federal loan or a grant like millions of others? That's a Gov Social Program.
In the Military by chance? retired, hurt on the job and can't work, lost your job, illegally fired, and the list goes on and on... yep, all Gov Social programs.
Poor, can't afford food, a new single mom - need help, milk/bs paid for? Oh that list is long... Yep, more Social programs.
Speaking of poor, want health care and are poor, just don't give up your SSN and it's paid for. Visiting our country? An Illegal? Just use our medical systems, our "states" social systems will pay for it. Something the state has proven it can't manage.
We ARE a socialist Gov... Like it or not.
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1.Healthcare plan _ ( who cares how he pays for it..we're already asshole deep in debt) at least I can live longer
2. Iraq war- Need to get out, need to spend the $10billion at home
3. 80% of the world would respect and give us another try if Obama is elected
4. Giving hope to a "normal" minority with no money or born w/out silver spoon, that they have a chance in the USA
5. he's in top notch shape, I've heard people working out more, because he's so fit. It gives you a good feeling to see him. I feel he would put some much needed confidence in the the US
Do you need any more reasons
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1. Obama is not going to break the back of the super powerful health care industry.1.Healthcare plan _ ( who cares how he pays for it..we're already asshole deep in debt) at least I can live longer
2. Iraq war- Need to get out, need to spend the $10billion at home
3. 80% of the world would respect and give us another try if Obama is elected
4. Giving hope to a "normal" minority with no money or born w/out silver spoon, that they have a chance in the USA
5. he's in top notch shape, I've heard people working out more, because he's so fit. It gives you a good feeling to see him. I feel he would put some much needed confidence in the the US
Do you need any more reasons
2. Promises promises, in reality Obama has been trying to delay the return of troops.
3. What about Israel?
4. Hope to African Americans? That was a good one.
5. Oh yes, skinny boy = good President.
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It's funny how this is always the republicans first question when it comes to healthcare and yet they don't bat an eyelash at $10b/month for a war, or $700b to bail out the rich.
They gave AIG $85b, blasted them publicly for spending $440k partying immediately afterward and then sent them another $35b a few days later.
But you're worried about a few billion a year on healthcare for children the children in your own country.
Great priorities.
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You can't ban all the dumb fucks.
That would be like getting rid of the middle class.
You *need* these people to keep the board, and the economy moving.
You have to embrace the idiots, and encourage them to work hard, just like McCain and Obama!!!Comment



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