Did Obama lie when he said he would decrimanilize marijuana? (video proof)

[notoldschool]

I know there have been a ton of threads on this subject but i just saw this vid and the president clearly states that he beleives that pot should be decriminalized. I really have never heard a real politician other than Ron Paul & Kusinich talk about a subject with such intelligence and understanding.

Did he lie or will he stand by his word?

[Malicious Biz]

Who gives a flying fuck, you stupid pothead commies. There's much more important shit going on than whether or not you can pack your bongs legally.

[notoldschool]

Who gives a flying fuck, you stupid pothead commies. There's much more important shit going on than whether or not you can pack your bongs legally.

Dont smoke myself you tin foil hat wearing retard. You fail to see the impact of such a policy. It goes far beyond what you would describe as a pothead. It would have a huge effect on our economy as well as the seriously fucked up legal system. Im sorry your too simple to see through the tired myths and stigmas that have been soaked into your peanut brain. Go ride your four wheeler and get you a rabbit bubba.

[Malicious Biz]

Dont smoke myself you tin foil hat wearing retard. You fail to see the impact of such a policy. It goes far beyond what you would describe as a pothead. It would have a huge effect on our economy as well as the seriously fucked up legal system. Im sorry your too simple to see through the tired myths and stigmas that have been soaked into your peanut brain. Go ride your four wheeler and get you a rabbit bubba.

Listen to how dumb you sound, stoner.

[Malicious Biz]

Go smoke ya another one, hippie.

[seeandsee]

he just wanted your vote god damn

[Michaelious]

Not much of a surprise really

[stev0]

Who gives a flying fuck, you stupid pothead commies. There's much more important shit going on than whether or not you can pack your bongs legally.

You don't think allowing the government to infringe on your personal freedom and tell YOU what you can put in YOUR body is a problem?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Listen to how dumb you sound, stoner.

he sounds normal to me, you don't happen to be on a 4x4 catching rabbits ? [

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Is it such an essential issue with crucial importance these days to waste a thread for it?

[SmokeyTheBear]

i didnt watch the video , but did he promise he would or did he just say he supports it ?

I support giving everyone 1 million dollars, but if i was president i wouldnt do it

[SmokeyTheBear]

Is it such an essential issue with crucial importance these days to waste a thread for it?

considering the thread alternatives ? sure, why not

There are alot of really groundbreaking claims to be made for marijuana, it would be nice to be able to see them fail or succeed , oil/paper/buildings/food

[CarlosTheGaucho]

considering the thread alternatives ? sure, why not

There are alot of really groundbreaking claims to be made for marijuana, it would be nice to be able to see them fail or succeed , oil/paper/buildings/food

I don't smoke it, I never think about it, I don't care about if it's legal or illegal, it's just less hassle that way, unfortunately I sure do hate potheads.

[tony286]

it will never happen

[StickyGreen]

Most people are so ignorant when it comes to marijuana.

Anyways, Eric Holder said the DEA is going to stop raiding cannabis clubs... a step in the right direction:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29433708/

[CarlosTheGaucho]

You don't think allowing the government to infringe on your personal freedom and tell YOU what you can put in YOUR body is a problem?

I think people are in their deepest nature complete and entire idiots without self control and without being able to handle their lives, no matter if high or sober.

The widespread of the marijuana smoking and its public popularization just confirms this and no pothead argument will ever change the basic and core nature of mankind - idiocy / incompetency and sheep mentality.

[Malicious Biz]

You don't think allowing the government to infringe on your personal freedom and tell YOU what you can put in YOUR body is a problem?

You don't think there's atleast 100 other problems more pressing than whether or not jonny jackoff can smoke dope legally? Let's solve the real problems first, then we can worry about legal weed.

There are innocent rabbits being stalked by bubbas on four-wheelers for crying out loud. Save the rabbits!

[fsudirectory]

Obama said "Federal money should not be used to circumvent state laws" when the raids in cali happened a few weeks after his inauguration.

Eric Holder just made a statement regarding the stopping of raids as posted above as well

[StickyGreen]

For those who don't get it: This is much deeper than "being able to legally smoke pot." It has to do with principles of our constitution regarding states' rights, which the federal government is constantly fucking with.

[Snake Doctor]

There's a big difference between saying "I believe marijuana should be decriminalized" and saying "as President, I WILL decriminalize marijuana"

It's the same thing with the whole 16 month plan to get out of Iraq....he always said it was a plan and was subject to change depending on the situation on the ground. (Quote "we have to be as careful getting out as we were careless going in")...but now you have all these idiots saying that he "lied" and that during the campaign he "promised" he would have the troops out in 16 months.

He promised no such thing....just like he never promised to decriminalize pot or 100 other things. Yet for some reason everything he said he'd "like to do" or "believes we should do" has somehow become a "promise that he's breaking" or a "lie that he's told"...because the media (and alot of other people) have a need for there to always be controversy to drive up ratings.

[PPC]

You don't think allowing the government to infringe on your personal freedom and tell YOU what you can put in YOUR body is a problem?

Fucking exactly.

What happened to the persuit of life, liberty and happiness.

How said happiness is attained should make no difference as long as you're not infringing upon others.. But what do I know.

[stickyfingerz]

Well hope he makes some attempts but who knows what will happen.

[notoldschool]

I think people are in their deepest nature complete and entire idiots without self control and without being able to handle their lives, no matter if high or sober.

The widespread of the marijuana smoking and its public popularization just confirms this and no pothead argument will ever change the basic and core nature of mankind - idiocy / incompetency and sheep mentality.

You sound so stupid. Your argument makes no sense. You call us sheep yet you follow along with the negative lies that the goverment feeds you about a harmless and absolutly beneficial plant. I bet you do atleast one of the following....smoke, drink alchohol, drink atleast a soda a day, or take some sort of pill. Guess what...they are all atleast as or more dangerous than being a casual smoker of mary jane. For you to say you hate smokers just shows what a complete asshole you are. How about wasting your energy hating something that has a negative effect on humans.

[SmokeyTheBear]

I think people are in their deepest nature complete and entire idiots without self control and without being able to handle their lives, no matter if high or sober.

you have a point there, although it has nothing to do with marijuana

The widespread of the marijuana smoking and its public popularization just confirms this

The widespread use of almost everything we use fits under the same category, to demonize marijuana for it would be silly

and no pothead argument will ever change the basic and core nature of mankind - idiocy / incompetency and sheep mentality.

so what you are saying is your arguments and pothead arguments at the root are exactly the same thing, idiocy , incompetence and sheep mentality. I tend to agree , but your not really making much of a point as to why your argument is really any better ? you are just saying you are both idiots.

I think you are much to negative on your assesment of humans carlos.

Lets break down your 3 major points.

#1 humans are idiots
i think that was more of a jab than a statement as overall we are pretty brilliant when compared to other animals and thats pretty well the only way to judge how smart we are .
#2 no self control
Again in comparison to other animals i would say we have lots of self control.
#3 no ability to "handle our lives"
Our fruitfull existence seems to make a strong argument against you.

[SmutHammer]

If he legalizes it he is more of an idiot than he has already shown. I really don't want to have stoned people driving cars any more than they already do, I hate people that drive slow!

[SmokeyTheBear]

If he legalizes it he is more of an idiot than he has already shown. I really don't want to have stoned people driving cars any more than they already do, I hate people that drive slow!

Any reasons besides slow driving people ?

Thats a pretty lame reason by itself, and i dont think theres any truth to that myth besides it being a funny skit on cheech n chong.


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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION

DOT HS 808 078 NOVEMBER 1993

MARIJUANA AND ACTUAL DRIVING PERFORMANCE

EFFECTS OF THC ON DRIVING PERFORMANCE

City Driving Study

The city driving study measured the subjects' ability to operate a vehicle in urban traffic. for reasons mentioned in the respective chapter the THC dose in that study was restricted to 100 ug/kg. For comparative purposes another group of subjects was treated with a modest dose of alcohol, producing a mean BAC of about 0.04g%. Results of the study showed that the modest dose of alcohol, but not THC, produced a significant impairment in driving performance, relative to placebo. Alcohol impaired driving performance but subjects did not perceive it. THC did not impair driving performance yet the subjects thought it had.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

You sound so stupid. Your argument makes no sense. You call us sheep yet you follow along with the negative lies that the goverment feeds you about a harmless and absolutly beneficial plant. I bet you do atleast one of the following....smoke, drink alchohol, drink atleast a soda a day, or take some sort of pill. Guess what...they are all atleast as or more dangerous than being a casual smoker of mary jane. For you to say you hate smokers just shows what a complete asshole you are. How about wasting your energy hating something that has a negative effect on humans.

I don't follow it at all, Ideogy is important and if I would be the government I will never let my people getting even more dumb and incompetent by taking more drugs.

And yes, I suppose I have to sound stupid as far as I'm sober and you might as well be stoned.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

so what you are saying is your arguments and pothead arguments at the root are exactly the same thing, idiocy , incompetence and sheep mentality. I tend to agree , but your not really making much of a point as to why your argument is really any better ? you are just saying you are both idiots.

I think you are much to negative on your assesment of humans carlos.

Lets break down your 3 major points.

#1 humans are idiots
i think that was more of a jab than a statement as overall we are pretty brilliant when compared to other animals and thats pretty well the only way to judge how smart we are .
#2 no self control
Again in comparison to other animals i would say we have lots of self control.
#3 no ability to "handle our lives"
Our fruitfull existence seems to make a strong argument against you.

The only difference is, I'm trying to push quality, responsibility, reliability in life and not a use of a drug.

None of the things I mentioned is connected with drug consumption.

You can talk to me all day long, but you won't persuade me that legalizing another drug has any positive effect on the future of mankind.

Do we really need more zombies in the streets? Just try to visit Amsterdam someday, that's a zombie parade.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

There's a big difference between saying "I believe marijuana should be decriminalized" and saying "as President, I WILL decriminalize marijuana"

Very smart move to add on the popularity ranks and to earn some more campaign $.

Most of the serious weed consumers feel this as a center point of their existence, so I belive many have robbed their grandmother to contribute to the campaign.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Bump for stoned loosers.

[SomeCreep]

I smoke weed with Obama everyday. It's expensive though, cuz he only smokes chronic.

[notoldschool]

The only difference is, I'm trying to push quality, responsibility, reliability in life and not a use of a drug.

None of the things I mentioned is connected with drug consumption.

You can talk to me all day long, but you won't persuade me that legalizing another drug has any positive effect on the future of mankind.

Do we really need more zombies in the streets? Just try to visit Amsterdam someday, that's a zombie parade.

Hey didnt I say you were just repeating the same tired bullshit youre tiny brain has been soaked with by mainstream media. Thousands of people WAY smarter than yourself, who have bank accounts that you will never sniff 1% of smoke everyday and besides the fact its the ONLY natural medicine that actually helps people deal with pain without a ton of pharmacutical side effects, it also helps many open their minds, improving imagination, and productivity. You really sound just like any other uneducated holier than though pricks. Go down another soda and male cum shot.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Hey didnt I say you were just repeating the same tired bullshit youre tiny brain has been soaked with by mainstream media. Thousands of people WAY smarter than yourself, who have bank accounts that you will never sniff 1% of smoke everyday and besides the fact its the ONLY natural medicine that actually helps people deal with pain without a ton of pharmacutical side effects, it also helps many open their minds, improving imagination, and productivity. You really sound just like any other uneducated holier than though pricks. Go down another soda and male cum shot.

Isn't this the same reaction as if you leave a crack addict a week without a crack?

[CarlosTheGaucho]

There's so much hate and anger in you my little boy,

Actually, I approve your marijuana use if you stop to be so bad to the rest of the world, as I've seen, you're a dangerous maniac with uncontrollable rage and a lunatic.

You should be prescribed the marijuana from the doctor, and also, they could add a couple sedatives to it.

And please don't ever try to stop using marijuana, it would be dangerous for the public.

[STAROTICA]

he will get around too it....I think hes got some other bigger things on his plate at this time!!!!

[notoldschool]

There's so much hate and anger in you my little boy,

Actually, I approve your marijuana use if you stop to be so bad to the rest of the world, as I've seen, you're a dangerous maniac with uncontrollable rage and a lunatic.

You should be prescribed the marijuana from the doctor, and also, they could add a couple sedatives to it.

And please don't ever try to stop using marijuana, it would be dangerous for the public.

LOL. Its funny how someone with no facts to stand on always resorts to switching his attack against the person instead of the argument. You were the one who came in claiming hate for pot smokers you retard. And your not lucid enough to remember who started what. Im sure you put more toxins in your body than I do but you keep thinking that only a pot smoker would see the insanity in criminalizing a plant.

[StickyGreen]

Bump for stoned loosers.

Dude, you are such a fucking faggot. Wtf is wrong with you?

[StickyGreen]

"Carlos from Prague"

[GirlBri]

You don't think allowing the government to infringe on your personal freedom and tell YOU what you can put in YOUR body is a problem?

if you people would realize something. he's not leagalizing it for you dumb ass people to smoke, its for medical reasons. for nerves, cancer patients, if you actually read up on what your going to bitch about you might sound smart.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

LOL. Its funny how someone with no facts to stand on always resorts to switching his attack against the person instead of the argument. You were the one who came in claiming hate for pot smokers you retard. And your not lucid enough to remember who started what. Im sure you put more toxins in your body than I do but you keep thinking that only a pot smoker would see the insanity in criminalizing a plant.

Please make sure to take your meds today, it was enough already, your constant attacks on open minded citizens like me are disturbing.

As I mentioned I don't have anything against marijuana use in principle.

But I do hate people advocating it as something great, and you are a prime example - this needs to be searched and destroyed, we need to fight with the idiots if we want a better society.

That's my whole and I would dare to say an extremely valid point.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Dude, you are such a fucking faggot. Wtf is wrong with you?

No I don't fuck boys, but thanks for the offer.

"Carlos from Prague"

I thought I'm capable of better jokes, glad you have a laugh.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

To further my point,

you can enjoy scat, eat shit or drink piss if you like it and it's your basic right - the right to be an idiot, not all of us were born with a self reflection .

BUT, at the point when you'll start to advocate in public that shit is healthy and piss is healthy and you're a millionaire and anyone who doesn't know shit and piss is healthy is a complete ignorant and anyone who's against you is against the freedom and against the basic human right to taste shit and piss and that everyone is uneducated about shit and piss and how good it is - that's when my radar starts to work!

I hope I made myself clear. I am available for questions and comments.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Once again so we don't have any more confusion - the point of mine is above (post number 43).

[Fletch XXX]

its coming and theres nothing you racists republicans can do about it.

i know people who buy weed legally and pay tax on it and know people who grow for patients, LEGALLY, those of you who act like pot is some evil thing just never been to a state where its sold and regulated LOL

try leaving the woods rednecks

Arnold The Terminator loves the tax on pot, now go smoke your cigs and drink your beer leave the pot to us.

[tranza]

The video is not available anymore..

[notoldschool]

To further my point,

you can enjoy scat, eat shit or drink piss if you like it and it's your basic right - the right to be an idiot, not all of us were born with a self reflection .

BUT, at the point when you'll start to advocate in public that shit is healthy and piss is healthy and you're a millionaire and anyone who doesn't know shit and piss is healthy is a complete ignorant and anyone who's against you is against the freedom and against the basic human right to taste shit and piss and that everyone is uneducated about shit and piss and how good it is - that's when my radar starts to work!

I hope I made myself clear. I am available for questions and comments.

Its so fun arguing with people who have 0 intelligence.
Shit and piss have NO medicinal value and do NOT relieve pain you fuckhead. Shit and piss is not a plant that smoking has been PROVEN to slow and even decrease tumor size.
My wife has Chrons and the plant is far more medically beneficial for her condition than the fucking death pills like prednisone steriods they try to feed her. The drugs our goverment makes the sick and dying eat are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than pot.
Again you have no substance to your ignorant argument showing your lack of ANY education.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Its so fun arguing with people who have 0 intelligence.

How do you want to prove it? so far you've only proved you're a mentally unstable pothead

Shit and piss have NO medicinal value and do NOT relieve pain you fuckhead.

LOL QUOTE OF THE THREAD!

Shit and piss is not a plant that smoking has been PROVEN to slow and even decrease tumor size.

Here we go - phase II - it's a miracle plant

My wife has Chrons and the plant is far more medically beneficial for her condition than the fucking death pills like prednisone steriods they try to feed her.

Dude, don't lie to us that you're married, someone so mentally unstable and addicted to weed shouldn't be allowed to reproduction

The drugs our goverment makes the sick and dying eat are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than pot.

Phase III - you all are killing yourself if you're not smoking pot

Again you have no substance to your ignorant argument showing your lack of ANY education.

Phase IV - uncontrollable anger, the same as if you want to take crack from a crack addict


People, please, be sensible - don't end up like this!

[CarlosTheGaucho]

its coming and theres nothing you racists republicans can do about it.

i know people who buy weed legally and pay tax on it and know people who grow for patients, LEGALLY, those of you who act like pot is some evil thing just never been to a state where its sold and regulated LOL

try leaving the woods rednecks

Arnold The Terminator loves the tax on pot, now go smoke your cigs and drink your beer leave the pot to us.

Dude, I have absolutely NOTHING against someone lighting a spliff

But I hate idiot pothead preachers who spend the most of their unproductive time by justifying their weed addiction.

This is so annoying and so in vogue these days!

[MindWaste]

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