Adult processor GTBill shut down by feds

[whatif_3]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture "because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/APNews...-15481559.html


Allied Systems sells in Adult under GTbill.com, they lost their mastercard privileges some months ago

gtbill site is down. RIP

[count of monte cristo]

GTBill is an IPSP which offers credit card processing solutions for eCommerce websites. We provide payment processing, merchant accounts, and third party billing with low rates, 24 hour setup, reliability and security.

their site is up

[CyberHustler]

[SBJ]

wow going to read that now

[dready]

Damn. Is ePass still doing this? I hope not.

[JFK]

SAD........... Really SAD

[Honez]

The link to the story isn't working for me.

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

Damn. Is ePass still doing this? I hope not.

what?

[HorseShit]

boom shakalaka

[pornguy]

YEah and they think they are safe because they are NOT in the US.

[whatif_3]

The link to the story isn't working for me.

works for me, try this google search for allied systems + poker, to get a list of news aggregators

http://www.google.com/search?q=Allie...e7&rlz=1I7GGQD

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Who wants to bet that there are a lot of pissed off poker players out there...

That's more money than the iBill debacle.



That's why I stick to strip poker - even if I lose my shirt, I still have money.

ADG

[Manowar]

wow, i wonder if anyone will get their cash

[Webmaster Army]

Who wants to bet that there are a lot of pissed off poker players out there...

That's more money than the iBill debacle.



That's why I stick to strip poker - even if I lose my shirt, I still have money.

ADG

The poker sites just eat these losses for now. These were payments scheduled to go out to poker players, they will be reimbursed.

[ScottAtGTBill]

Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.

[Phoenix]

Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.

you should work on your pr skills

keeping an eye on this thread for sure

[TheAmericanCannibal]

May I offer my PR services to GT Bill?
I think some good spin will be needed here for sure.


Andy u should really call me.

[TheDoc]

Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.

iBill said the same thing..

[Oracle Porn]

Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.

[whatif_3]

Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that.

i was pretty careful to do that

the only "Allied Systems" payment processor on google is:

http://www.alliedsystems.net/

GTBill actually is part of a larger company, Allied Systems, which has been in the payment processing business for more than five years, processing for standard e-commerce companies, as well as some adult merchants.
http://www.xbiz.com/articles/93283

Same IP for both GTbill.com and Alliedsystems.net

[ScottAtGTBill]

i was pretty careful to do that

the only "Allied Systems" payment processor on google is:

http://www.alliedsystems.net/

GTBill actually is part of a larger company, Allied Systems, which has been in the payment processing business for more than five years, processing for standard e-commerce companies, as well as some adult merchants.
http://www.xbiz.com/articles/93283

Same IP for both GTbill.com and Alliedsystems.net

I was referring to the GTBill being shutdown. As you can notice, none of our sites are down. The only thing that was affected was our ACH services, and that was only for a few days.

[FilthyRob]

Hope my pokerstars money is still good

[whatif_3]

I was referring to the GTBill being shutdown. As you can notice, none of our sites are down.

when i checked your site out this morning it was down, its now back up, my bad

The only thing that was affected was our ACH services, and that was only for a few days.

thats good to hear, the media always makes it sound more ominous

[jakethedog]

Ok .. I need someone from GTBill or Allied wallet to contact me immediately .. please ..

[JFK]

you should work on your pr skills

keeping an eye on this thread for sure

[jakethedog]

Talking with them right now .. We'll get to the bottom of this sillyness .. ;)

[jakethedog]

Ok .. they just lost ach processing .. does NOT effect CC processing ..

[jakethedog]

Ok .. they just lost ach processing .. does NOT effect CC processing .. done move along ..

weird double post .. sorry

[Sosa]

you should work on your pr skills

keeping an eye on this thread for sure

I thought the same thing when I read the reply. wow

[atom]

I don't use GTbill and most likley never will, however, by the thread title and the fact that its not true I would be pissed if I was Scott.

Did he handle it wrong? Yeah. Pretty damaging thread title though to say a company is shut down when its not. Especially when people already have a bad taste in their mouth from previous processors.

I dont think he needs to be crucified for his response. Once again people making mountains out of a molehill.

[derek_gtbill]

Jake is correct, as I was just speaking with him.

We have only lost our ACH processing right now, which is totally seperate from CC Processing. GTBill and Alliedwallet is up and running, and we are now totally focused on our credit card processing. If anyone has any questions, you can contact me at anytime.

Derek Baehr

1.888.889.0788 - Office
1.480.302.9959 – Direct
1.602.373.3300 - Cell
1.480.304.3434 - Fax
[email protected]
[email protected] - msn
derekatsurreal – AIM
484887383 - ICQ
derek.baehr - Skype

[Iron Fist]

Derek Baehr

1.888.889.0788 - Office
1.480.302.9959 ? Direct
1.602.373.3300 - Cell
1.480.304.3434 - Fax
[email protected]
[email protected] - msn
derekatsurreal ? AIM
484887383 - ICQ
derek.baehr - Skype

I've seen sigs in my day.. but I think you've got more ways than god to contact you right there....

[buck30]

Expect more of this from the control your life, do as I say, not as I do Obama Admin.

[JimmiDean]

Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.

I hope that is not the official company reply.

[Barefootsies]

First Jettis, now these guys.

[ScottAtGTBill]

I hope that is not the official company reply.

Hah, no it definitely is not. Total PR fail and I do apologize for the inappropriate and rash response.

[JimmiDean]

Hah, no it definitely is not. Total PR fail and I do apologize for the inappropriate and rash response.

No worries,
If it was my company I am sure I would have gone off far worse.

[ReGGs]

Yeah just another case of not having all the facts before putting up the inflammatory thread. No biggie though it sparks conversation and usually the real story makes it's way out. That being said the whole no online poker thing is just stupid. It's not clogging the series of tubes. The only thing being clogged is the politicians pockets with that special money which makes them think online gambling is a bad idea for almost no good reason. For example: Betting on horses online is legal but poker is not. It is still gambling. Doesn't make any sense.

[jcsike]

I don't use GTbill and most likley never will, however, by the thread title and the fact that its not true I would be pissed if I was Scott.

Pretty damaging thread title though to say a company is shut down when its not. Especially when people already have a bad taste in their mouth from previous processors.

in this industry, with processors, you have to police them yourselves. No processor is going to admit they are having trouble, because when that happens, their incentive is to save their own business and they tend to use their clients funds for that purpose and/or their own income.

by the time they admit and apologize that there are payment issues, nobody is going to get anything.

however, if your one of the early ones that demands their money, they will give it to you in order for you not to make a stink about it

some people got all their money from ibill, others that believed their sales reps, waited a few months and got nothing

Once again people making mountains out of a molehill.

name 1 processor in adult that would survive 30mil of their money being frozen indefinitely

[MrHits]

boom shakalaka

<The Hoff Voice> I can't fight this feeling... Deep inside of me</The Hoff Voice>

[Qbert]

...name 1 processor in adult that would survive 30mil of their money being frozen indefinitely

That was the first thought I had when I read the article.

[atom]

in this industry, with processors, you have to police them yourselves. No processor is going to admit they are having trouble, because when that happens, their incentive is to save their own business and they tend to use their clients funds for that purpose and/or their own income.

by the time they admit and apologize that there are payment issues, nobody is going to get anything.

however, if your one of the early ones that demands their money, they will give it to you in order for you not to make a stink about it

some people got all their money from ibill, others that believed their sales reps, waited a few months and got nothing




name 1 processor in adult that would survive 30mil of their money being frozen indefinitely

Please re-read my post. I am not against policing processors or anyone else for that matter in this biz. What i do have a problem with is somebody posting a thread saying a company is out of business when they are still up and running.

As far as the molehill comment, I was referring to the fact that people were jumping all over this guy because he lost his cool for a moment. People seem to be more concerned with his one sentance than the fact that their ACH went down and have all this money frozen.

Personally i would be pissed to if someone started a thread saying HotCams shut down by Feds when we were not.

Oh well, just another day on GFY....

[webmasterchecks]

when processors have issues, this doesnt help anyone, i hope they get through this

[lagcam]

Given the thread title and the sensationalist allegations in the first post, I dont think the response from GTBill was out of order, and I am pretty sure that virtually everybody here would have reacted in the same way if it was their own business being (wrongly it appears) accused of having been shut down....especially as failed payment processors is a very very sensitive area.

So he used the word "bullshit". If something is not true, that is what it is.

Would you have preferred him to come out with carefully chosen words by their lawyers like "these allegations are completely without foundation"?

It's the same thing.

[2MuchMark]

I was referring to the GTBill being shutdown. As you can notice, none of our sites are down. The only thing that was affected was our ACH services, and that was only for a few days.

Glad to see that GTBill is alive and well - you guys are cool People really do need to get their facts straight before posting. Chance are we all know owners of companies who take things very hard when misinformation is put out.

[Jimbo66]

Also happy to hear you guys are ok. Cheers!

[jakethedog]

GTBill are rockstars .. they bend over backwards for me all the time with my crazy demands and bizarre set up stuff .. lol .. thanks guys ;)

[baddog]

No worries,
If it was my company I am sure I would have gone off far worse.

Yeah, can't really hold that response against him.

[BIGTYMER]

So GTBill lost ACH? Not good. I guess this is why my latest wire from them is late.. again.

[jcsike]

So GTBill lost ACH? Not good. I guess this is why my latest wire from them is late.. again.

did you get paid yet?