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TheSenator · 06-11-2009, 04:16 PM

Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?

Does anybody know this?

I am currently experimenting with one of my blogs but it has only been a week. I wonder if I get penalized by Google if I re-direct. I should know in a few months.

Choker · 06-11-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic?

Does anybody know this?

I am currently experimenting with one of my blogs but it has only been a week. I wonder if I get penalized by Google if I re-direct. I should know in a few months.

Good fucking question. This could change things a lot if they do

wargames · 06-11-2009, 04:28 PM

We did a redirect of our mobile traffic about a month ago for a couple of days we went from 2nd page to 3rd page for a big keyword. We took off the redirect and it climbed back to its normal spot a couple weeks later.

TheSenator · 06-11-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wargames

We did a redirect of our mobile traffic about a month ago for a couple of days we went from 2nd page to 3rd page for a big keyword. We took off the redirect and it climbed back to its normal spot a couple weeks later.

Ugg....

There has to be a way around this

GTS Mark · 06-11-2009, 04:46 PM

We haven't seen any issues this far doing it in the manner we're currently doing it. However I have heard some horror stories from site owners that are redirecting traffic to some of our competitors.

Titan · 06-11-2009, 04:59 PM

We have been doing this for a while and I haven't seen any difference. If you have a teen tgp, blog, tube etc. I would redirect the traffic to a teen cash site.

bdld · 06-11-2009, 05:31 PM

redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.

GTS Mark · 06-11-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bdld

redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.

quoted for truth

WiredGuy · 06-11-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bdld

redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.

Bingo... these days search engines don't like many forms of redirection that its better to keep them on a mobile version of your site.
WG

TheSenator · 06-11-2009, 07:59 PM

What is a good mobile plugin for Wordpress?

TTiger · 06-11-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

What is a good mobile plugin for Wordpress?

some good stuff here

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=WordPress+mobile

Iron Fist · 06-11-2009, 10:08 PM

search engines don't like redirects to offsite locations.

TheSenator · 06-11-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TTiger

some good stuff here

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=WordPress+mobile

I'm talking about experience....

nice try

TheSenator · 06-11-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

search engines don't like redirects to offsite locations.

Basically, I don't wanna kill my traffic with Google for a few thousand dollars with mobile.

I am removing my re-directs and going with the best solution for wordpress mobile.

Also, I am look for sponsors who can carry my affiliate ID over to there mobile site for credit.

Renegade Jeff · 06-11-2009, 11:26 PM

Try using a mobile ID script (like ours) to simply render a unique banner or link for mobile surfers. You don't necessarily need to redirect them without first landing a hit on your own page. We have one affiliate who uses a modified version of our redirection script to render mobile specific banners to mobile users in his iFrames across an entire ad network.

spacedog · 06-11-2009, 11:58 PM

google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

place this in your header.

Code:

<link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />

This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.

spacedog · 06-12-2009, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade Jeff

Try using a mobile ID script (like ours) to simply render a unique banner or link for mobile surfers. You don't necessarily need to redirect them without first landing a hit on your own page. We have one affiliate who uses a modified version of our redirection script to render mobile specific banners to mobile users in his iFrames across an entire ad network.

Wow.. He's not a smart one..

Motorola mobile browser doesn?t support IFrames
OpenWave doesn?t support IFrames
BlackBerry 8700 running a 4.2.1 firmware does not support IFrames.
BlackBerry 8830 running a 4.2.2 firmware also does not support IFrames
Opera Mobile 8.5 does not support IFrames

and a shitload of others do not support iframes.

pretty much limits it to IEMobile and iPhone.

RevShare it! · 06-12-2009, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog

google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

place this in your header.

Code:

<link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />

This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.

Good info

I will also add that on our own sites we have not seen any changes using our redirect nor heard anything from any affiliates using our redirect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Also, I am look for sponsors who can carry my affiliate ID over to there mobile site for credit.

Checkout http://www.RevShareit.com

Jack Sparrow · 06-12-2009, 02:07 AM

Heard the same story more then once.
The way around would be to setup a mobile version ON your domain, redirect it there.
White.

CaptainWolfy · 06-12-2009, 02:13 AM

you should be just fine if you use this at the end of your redirect script:
if($mobile_browser)
{
header('Cache-Control: no-transform');
header('Vary: User-Agent, Accept');
header("robots:noindex,nofollow");
header('Location: '.$mobile_link);
exit;
}

Agent 488 · 06-12-2009, 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog

Google specifically tells you to do this.

link?

.

TheDoc · 06-12-2009, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog

google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website.

place this in your header.

Code:

<link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" />

This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results.

IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.

http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=35312

How does Google modify web pages for mobile viewing?
Print

Google Web Search on mobile phones allows users to search all the content in the Google index for desktop web browsers. Because this content isn't written specifically for mobile phones and devices and thus might not display properly, web search results are viewed through our transcoder, which analyzes the original HTML code and converts it to a mobile-ready format. To ensure that the highest quality and most useable web page is displayed on your mobile phone or device, Google may resize, adjust, or convert images, text formatting and/or certain aspects of web page functionality.

If you do not want Google to transcode your web page, you may request that Google redirect the user to an alternate page whenever the user attempts to view the page through the transcoder. You can do so by including the following line in the <HEAD> section of the HTML file for your page:

<link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="alternate_page.htm" />

The alternate page should be a mobile-optimized version of the original page or a message informing the user that the site is not available on the phone.

Agent 488 · 06-12-2009, 06:52 AM

ok thanks.

FrozenJag · 06-12-2009, 06:56 AM

If you do redirect i reccomend using no follow. Although I wouldnt reccomend redirecting whatsoever if your a big se baller.

Instead display ad if its mobile user, and no ad displays if its not. (Like good size ad right under the header).

Good luck.

seeandsee · 06-12-2009, 07:02 AM

finally good question to see on gfy!

Allison · 06-12-2009, 08:23 AM

TopBucks/PinkVisual has been around in the mobile game for a while (since 2007). Redirecting to another domain can be damaging if you have a good natural search engine listing. However, from keeping it on your domain or subdomain we see that there is no impact.

We offer whitelabels for mobile solutions that we handle fully on our end, that keep the traffic on your domain and don't put your natural search engine listings at risk.

TopBucks will be making some big announcements soon about mobile to webmasters, but we're already handling webmaster traffic for mobile successfully.

Contact me or any of our staff and we'll take care of creating a whitelabel of your site, customized AND optimized for mobile.

~Alli

tetsuo001100 · 06-12-2009, 08:44 AM

but what about redirecting your traffic via javascript? to my understanding google/search engines in general disregard javascript and just view your page itself. if they're not rendering the javascript then it's not redirecting for google, right?

fuzebox · 06-16-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tetsuo001100

but what about redirecting your traffic via javascript? to my understanding google/search engines in general disregard javascript and just view your page itself. if they're not rendering the javascript then it's not redirecting for google, right?

I know it's been a few days, but bump to get some more input on this. It's been my understanding that google won't penalize the javascript redirects as well.

fuzebox · 06-18-2009, 09:22 AM

bump because I liked this discussion.

daemonx · 07-05-2009, 07:35 AM

I played with it for about a month on one of my TGPs which has pretty decent traffic from Google. At first I tried redirecting directly to a sponsors site. In a few days my Google traffic was down by 80%. The traffic picked up once I removed the redirect.

Then I created a mobile landing page on a sub domain and kept redirecting to the landing page for about 2 weeks with no changes in SE traffic. Now I'm using a white label created by TopBucks on a sub domain of one of my sites and am happy with the results. Gonna get the guys create mobile white labels for all of my sites now.

06-11-2009, 04:16 PM	#1
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,332	Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic? Does Google Penalize If You Re-Direct Your Mobile Traffic? Does anybody know this? I am currently experimenting with one of my blogs but it has only been a week. I wonder if I get penalized by Google if I re-direct. I should know in a few months. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

06-11-2009, 04:28 PM	#3
wargames Kliris Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Posts: 10,423	We did a redirect of our mobile traffic about a month ago for a couple of days we went from 2nd page to 3rd page for a big keyword. We took off the redirect and it climbed back to its normal spot a couple weeks later. __________________ ICQ 212-115-582 Email Steve at Vas Media Group .com

06-11-2009, 04:59 PM	#6
Titan Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: teencash.com Posts: 994	We have been doing this for a while and I haven't seen any difference. If you have a teen tgp, blog, tube etc. I would redirect the traffic to a teen cash site. __________________ TEEN CASH - EXCLUSIVE TEEN NICHE REALITY SITES Check out our Newest Site: Teen Porno Pass - Free Hosted Galleries, Flash Galleries, Tube Content, & Great Support Sample Galleries: Movie Gallery 1 Flash Gallery 1 Pic Gallery 1

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TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,332	What is a good mobile plugin for Wordpress? __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

06-11-2009, 10:08 PM	#12
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	search engines don't like redirects to offsite locations. __________________ i like waffles

06-11-2009, 04:46 PM	#5
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	We haven't seen any issues this far doing it in the manner we're currently doing it. However I have heard some horror stories from site owners that are redirecting traffic to some of our competitors.

06-11-2009, 05:31 PM	#7
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	redirect your mobile traffic to a mobile version of your site instead of direct to a sponsor.

06-11-2009, 11:26 PM	#15
Renegade Jeff Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 60	Try using a mobile ID script (like ours) to simply render a unique banner or link for mobile surfers. You don't necessarily need to redirect them without first landing a hit on your own page. We have one affiliate who uses a modified version of our redirection script to render mobile specific banners to mobile users in his iFrames across an entire ad network. __________________ [email protected] ICQ 391084038

06-11-2009, 11:58 PM	#16
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	google does not penalize you for mobile redirects as long as you tell google that the url redirected to is the mobile version of your website. place this in your header. Code: <link rel="alternate" media="handheld" href="http://theredirectedurl.com" /> This tells google that the redirected url is the MOBILE VERSION. You will not be penalized. Google specifically tells you to do this. This also tells google that visits from their mobile search engine shall send visitors to the url specified rather than the url listed in the results. IE: yourfuckingdomain.com is in the results for "This Keyword", however, when user clicks it, google sends them to redirecturl.com because you told google to do so.

06-12-2009, 02:07 AM	#19
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Heard the same story more then once. The way around would be to setup a mobile version ON your domain, redirect it there. White.

06-12-2009, 02:13 AM	#20
CaptainWolfy Playa Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere on the Earth Posts: 8,439	you should be just fine if you use this at the end of your redirect script: if($mobile_browser) { header('Cache-Control: no-transform'); header('Vary: User-Agent, Accept'); header("robots:noindex,nofollow"); header('Location: '.$mobile_link); exit; }

06-12-2009, 06:52 AM	#23
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	ok thanks.

06-12-2009, 06:56 AM	#24
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	If you do redirect i reccomend using no follow. Although I wouldnt reccomend redirecting whatsoever if your a big se baller. Instead display ad if its mobile user, and no ad displays if its not. (Like good size ad right under the header). Good luck.

06-12-2009, 07:02 AM	#25
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06-12-2009, 08:23 AM	#26
Allison Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: http://www.topbucks.com Posts: 2,068	TopBucks/PinkVisual has been around in the mobile game for a while (since 2007). Redirecting to another domain can be damaging if you have a good natural search engine listing. However, from keeping it on your domain or subdomain we see that there is no impact. We offer whitelabels for mobile solutions that we handle fully on our end, that keep the traffic on your domain and don't put your natural search engine listings at risk. TopBucks will be making some big announcements soon about mobile to webmasters, but we're already handling webmaster traffic for mobile successfully. Contact me or any of our staff and we'll take care of creating a whitelabel of your site, customized AND optimized for mobile. ~Alli __________________ Allison President TopBucks.com\| PinkVisual.com\| [email protected] Follow Me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/PV_Alli ICQ: 120353154 Check out PVLocker.com

06-12-2009, 08:44 AM	#27
tetsuo001100 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 59	but what about redirecting your traffic via javascript? to my understanding google/search engines in general disregard javascript and just view your page itself. if they're not rendering the javascript then it's not redirecting for google, right? __________________ Booble Porn Star Directory \| Booble - The Adult Search Engine \| Booble Porn Reviews \| BoobleTube \| BoobleVideos \| Fansign Contest \| BoobleImage Search \| Sir Rodney's Porn Reviews \| Sir Randy's Gay Reviews \| Vicky Vette's: Booble Girl of the Year

06-18-2009, 09:22 AM	#29
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,066	bump because I liked this discussion.

07-05-2009, 07:35 AM	#30
daemonx Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 79	I played with it for about a month on one of my TGPs which has pretty decent traffic from Google. At first I tried redirecting directly to a sponsors site. In a few days my Google traffic was down by 80%. The traffic picked up once I removed the redirect. Then I created a mobile landing page on a sub domain and kept redirecting to the landing page for about 2 weeks with no changes in SE traffic. Now I'm using a white label created by TopBucks on a sub domain of one of my sites and am happy with the results. Gonna get the guys create mobile white labels for all of my sites now. __________________ My top mobile sponsor - TopBucksMobile