Anyone buy any shares in camgirls.com yet?

[pstation]

www.camgirls.com

[Zorgman]

Damn, he can read really really good. And buy your share with paypal too. lol

Way too fucken funny.. Thanks for the laugh.

[Domain Diva]

He sounds australian ?

[LoveSandra]

funny shit

[okny]

O boy so much for the billion dollar theory

[teomaxxx]

well, good business plan

[okny]

Theory

And who else spent $3 million to set up a cam site?

The way I see it cam sites either make millions or next to nothing, and I can't
see camgirls.com failing by a long shot.

Business plan

If you think within 10 years I can't get 100 camgirls online that's denial.

100 camgirls X 1/3 workload X $5/min X 50% profit X 60 mins X 24 hours X 365 days
= $43 million a year

Pay per minute is where it's at.

Result only model on cam girls is the owner trying to sell shares of the company too fucking funny

[Nicky]

Loooooooool

[Raf1]

funny stuff

[lazycash]

This is the first I've actually seen him admit that he improperly estimated what it would cost to develop an operational cam site. He scoffed at most of us when we tried to tell him the amount of money it was going to take. I'm actually shocked that he's been able to get 129 people to buy shares. Sad thing is I don't ever see those people getting a return on their investment, wonder if he offers some kind of guarantee should he never end up developing anything and just sells the domain.

[lazycash]

He sounds australian ?

He is, or at least that's where he resides.

[grumpy]

hmmm...buy a few shares and start promoting tham like crazy, might be a fun investment

[lazycash]

hmmm...buy a few shares and start promoting tham like crazy, might be a fun investment

What are you going to promote? If he's gonna wait till he gets 10,000 shares before he has the resources to develop his cam site and affiliate program you might be waiting a few years before you have anything to promote.

[rowan]

What are you going to promote? If he's gonna wait till he gets 10,000 shares before he has the resources to develop his cam site and affiliate program you might be waiting a few years before you have anything to promote.

Investors would also have a reasonable belief that he knows what he's doing, and their cash isn't going to slowly flutter away due to repeated failed experiments. Hopefully he gets someone knowledgeable onboard to consult.

[greg80]

oh my god, this is getting funnier every day

[greg80]

you have to be a retard to invest with this guy. Here is another of his videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1TrfJo_UFI

[Domain Diva]

He is, or at least that's where he resides.

Thanks..thats what I thought ....

On a side note: Is it legal to just offer a million dollars worth of shares to the public like that ? or is this different .
I thought strict regulations exsisted for public offerings and shares ? ....Not looking to see the guy get in trouble...just the opposite ...would hate to see the next video of him in leg irons and a orange jumpsuit on his way to break rocks for 5 yrs .

[lagcam]

Ok so he pays "half a million" for a domain, (thought it was less than that from memory) but anyway.....he dosn't actually do anything with it, and is now selling 50% for $1 million......and using paypal.....AND 129 people have supposedly shelled out $100 on an investment where it states:

TOP OF THE PAGE

"Don't kick yourself saying if I bought a 1% share I'd be making $10 thousand a month right now."

BOTTOM OF THE PAGE

Don't forget to buy a $100 share!
If Camgirls.com is ever bigger than Livejasmin.com you would make $10K every year.

No specimen contract, no business plan, just $100 mate ripper !

I can't say I believe anyone has actually bought a share let alone 129 people, but if they have then it seems there really is one born every minute.

[Zorgman]

This guy is a retard. Anyone seriously invest with this loser and you are a loser.

I never say this but OMFG!

[rowan]

Thanks..thats what I thought ....

On a side note: Is it legal to just offer a million dollars worth of shares to the public like that ? or is this different .
I thought strict regulations exsisted for public offerings and shares ? ....Not looking to see the guy get in trouble...just the opposite ...would hate to see the next video of him in leg irons and a orange jumpsuit on his way to break rocks for 5 yrs .

I think it would be a grey area since it's not a private investment (eg privately pitching to a couple of VC's who then put in their own cash). The site doesn't seem to have any public disclosure statements, contracts etc either.

I don't want camgirls to fail or get in trouble either, but given his track record so far it's hard to be positive......

[SleazyDream]

he said promotion - what about infrastructure?

woops - forgot about that too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dirtymind]

well domain is very good, not sure what he was thinking or how he got the money to buy it, plus is it really worth the money.

[alias]

No specimen contract, no business plan, just $100 mate ripper !

[VladS]

No comment...

[quiet]

what is this guy thinking? buying shares through paypal with no contracts, no biz plan, no nothing. should just sell the domain and cut his losses. jesus.

did he really pay half a mill for that domain, with no idea how to develop it, and no money to develop it? yikes.

[will76]

www.camgirls.com

Wow..... So this is his way now to try to make money off the domain name, by selling "shares".

Hi I am " Noob" I don't know what the fuck I am doing, but if I get 10,000 people to send me $100 I will be able to make a profit off of buying this domain. AND if camgirls.com ever becomes bigger than livejasmin you will make a lot of money! How do I make it bigger than livejasmin, well i dont have a bloody clue but it could happen so send me your $100 so you don't kick yourself for missing out on this.

Hate to be harsh but it is always nice to put a face to an idiot.

Sounds like a scam more than anything, people who send money have .0001% chance of making anything. Ok I was being generous, they have a .0000001% chance of making anything.



I'f you place 1 tiny classified add in 100 newspapers..... buy my book how to place classified ads and make a lot of money.... and the only person that makes money is the guy selling the book... sound familar ???






I'm going to buy a decent tube domain and ask everyone to buy a share for $100 bucks because youtube makes millions of dollars.

[cherrylula]

I know Fletch is doing ads for him and Fletch has a share in it!

http://www.getbannersmade.com

[will76]

well domain is very good, not sure what he was thinking or how he got the money to buy it, plus is it really worth the money.

inheritance
lawsuit
lotto

those are the top 3 ways that idiots get money. It is definitly one of them. Since he is a lot older than I thought my bet is now on inheritance.

[will76]

I can see this one coming a mile away......











If he ever did get someone stupid enough to invest a $100, i would bet anything he wouldn't even spend it on his site. He would spend it to pay his bills since he is probably broke now and fucked because all of his money is in buying the domain and the domain is making him shit from type in traffic. And what would $100 do if he even spent it towards the site, buy a couple clicks so he can try to get more suckers to pay him $100 LMAO!!!
Obviously this "idea of selling shares" he thinks can make him more money then he was making from a white label site or he would have the white label up on the main page where all of his type ins are coming from and not this bullshit. that should tell you something folks. He thinks he can make more off selling an investment potential then selling cam time to the type in traffic. think about it.

[NikKay]

WOW, that is crazy ridiculous.

[JamesK]

that's just sad.

[Jdoughs]

LiveJasmine should C&D him for using their name on that page.

[Brujah]

I just bought 10 shares. No worse than a roulette bet, but it could pay off in the long run.

[JFK]

I just bought 10 shares. No worse than a roulette bet, but it could pay off in the long run.

how much are they ?

[thepiper]

Thanks..thats what I thought ....

On a side note: Is it legal to just offer a million dollars worth of shares to the public like that ? or is this different .
I thought strict regulations exsisted for public offerings and shares ? ....Not looking to see the guy get in trouble...just the opposite ...would hate to see the next video of him in leg irons and a orange jumpsuit on his way to break rocks for 5 yrs .

Definitly not legal in the US. Private placements are subject to the Securities at of 1933. He is "widely-marketing" non registered securities which certainly doesn't fall under the safe-harbor rule 144. At minimum there isn't even a private placement memorandum, just a paypal money now button.

[Pleasurepays]

thats not even legal. this guy is dumber than that i originally thought.

...i'm also pretty sure paypal would kill it the second its reported.

[Fob]

129 shares sold? lies!! those are fake numbers..hahah

[Jdoughs]

Definitly not legal in the US. Private placements are subject to the Securities at of 1933. He is "widely-marketing" non registered securities which certainly doesn't fall under the safe-harbor rule 144. At minimum there isn't even a private placement memorandum, just a paypal money now button.

I don't think he really gives a fuck what the US's stand is on the idea, since he isn't based there (and doesn't process).

[lazycash]

I can see this one coming a mile away......











If he ever did get someone stupid enough to invest a $100, i would bet anything he wouldn't even spend it on his site. He would spend it to pay his bills since he is probably broke now and fucked because all of his money is in buying the domain and the domain is making him shit from type in traffic. And what would $100 do if he even spent it towards the site, buy a couple clicks so he can try to get more suckers to pay him $100 LMAO!!!
Obviously this "idea of selling shares" he thinks can make him more money then he was making from a white label site or he would have the white label up on the main page where all of his type ins are coming from and not this bullshit. that should tell you something folks. He thinks he can make more off selling an investment potential then selling cam time to the type in traffic. think about it.

This reminds me of his threads in here during the summer where he threw out a proposal of partnership with promises of huge returns one day. It was the same problem then as it was now, he has no agreement, no stated timetable for returns, and no specific plan of action. I'm sure there isn't 129 different people investing, he most likely took 10k of his own money and called it 100 shares purchased.

I don't think he's setting out to scam anyone, but unfortunately this is probably how most will remember this venture a year from now when no one has seen any returns and there is nothing on the domain worthy of making much money. Also, I don't believe the domain is getting the amount of type ins you'd expect and he wasn't making much at all with his white label. From his posts he clearly showed that he didn't realize how much traffic he was going to have to throw out his white label to generate steady sales.

[LeRoy]

Maybe it will work and he'll get the mill.

Kinda like the million dollar pixel page

[lazycash]

...i'm also pretty sure paypal would kill it the second its reported.

Yeah, thats the first thing I thought when I saw he was using Paypal. Paypal used to immediately freeze accounts if a transaction involved an email address with an adult domain in it.

[Barefootsies]

Wow..... So this is his way now to try to make money off the domain name, by selling "shares".

Hi I am " Noob" I don't know what the fuck I am doing, but if I get 10,000 people to send me $100 I will be able to make a profit off of buying this domain. AND if camgirls.com ever becomes bigger than livejasmin you will make a lot of money! How do I make it bigger than livejasmin, well i dont have a bloody clue but it could happen so send me your $100 so you don't kick yourself for missing out on this.

Hate to be harsh but it is always nice to put a face to an idiot.

Sounds like a scam more than anything, people who send money have .0001% chance of making anything. Ok I was being generous, they have a .0000001% chance of making anything.



I'f you place 1 tiny classified add in 100 newspapers..... buy my book how to place classified ads and make a lot of money.... and the only person that makes money is the guy selling the book... sound familar ???






I'm going to buy a decent tube domain and ask everyone to buy a share for $100 bucks because youtube makes millions of dollars.

[David!]

That's illegal in the US, he needs to have a PPM

[XD2]

I love the way he wrote he's intro then filmed himself actually reading he's own website intro back. The least I would have done is memorised it. Thought the whole video is a bit pointless as it doesn't offer any additional information, just further confirms he doesn't seem to know what he is doing.

[dav3]

I bet the customers that signed up under his webcams.com white label are a little pissed that the site has that sales pitch up on it now.

But anyway...

CamGirls.com dude: You may want to consider setting up a CamSiteCash White Label. Once one of their team approves it, other CamSiteCash webmasters can push traffic to your white label and you will ALL get a piece of the Revenue Sharing.

[lazycash]

what is this guy thinking? buying shares through paypal with no contracts, no biz plan, no nothing. should just sell the domain and cut his losses. jesus.

did he really pay half a mill for that domain, with no idea how to develop it, and no money to develop it? yikes.

The domain was reported sold for 350k, but word was the original owner wanted a half a million which is what Graham is reporting in the video as what he paid for it, so who knows. If you look at his progression of posts starting from 6 months ago, its clear that originally he had absolutely no clue how much investment it was going to take to put up a cam site. 6 months ago, I and a few others told him everything that was involved and he just scoffed at us as if we were full of it.

Instead of trying to learn the cam niche from those of us who have been promoting it for years, he began spouting off his pie in the sky numbers. His stubborn pride and unwillingness to admit he greatly underestimated all thats involved in starting a cam site has cost him 6 months return on his domain.

[will76]

This is the first I've actually seen him admit that he improperly estimated what it would cost to develop an operational cam site. He scoffed at most of us when we tried to tell him the amount of money it was going to take. I'm actually shocked that he's been able to get 129 people to buy shares. Sad thing is I don't ever see those people getting a return on their investment, wonder if he offers some kind of guarantee should he never end up developing anything and just sells the domain.

come on, you know better. Do you really take his work for it and believe that 129 people really did this. He could put any number up there and can add a couple to it every couple days. I would be shocked if 1 person did it. He is obviously lieing. I wouldn't be surprised if the day the page went live he started it at 100 and then just added a couple to it every couple days. No one want's to be the first person to buy, so he is doing the typical "its too good to be true" bs = hurry and get in before it's too late, look everyone else is doing it.

No doubt if anyone does do it that it will end up getting him in trouble with the FTC (if he is in the US) or some type of lawsuit. I'm tempted to let my attorney look at this and see if there is a angle I might buy a share so I can sue his ass later and take his domain away

[will76]

I just bought 10 shares. No worse than a roulette bet, but it could pay off in the long run.

Nigga please.... with roulette you can bet black or red and have a little less than 50% chance of doubling your money. Hell, you have a better chance at spending that money on the lotto and having it pay out for you than doing anything with camgirls.

You have got to be joking.

[seeric]

better plan would be to rank the domain sell some ads, make what you need and fuck paying people for the rest of the domains life. not that there is anything legally binding that says he has to keep paying those 100 dollar investors. i know tons of seos that could rank that domain number one, so not sure why he wouldn't do that and garner that organic qualified traffic as mission number 1. how did this guy end up with this domain anyhow?

[lazycash]

I love the way he wrote he's intro then filmed himself actually reading he's own website intro back. The least I would have done is memorised it. Thought the whole video is a bit pointless as it doesn't offer any additional information, just further confirms he doesn't seem to know what he is doing.

Yeah, he's just not very good at marketing. He should have had an articulate, attractive female doing the video along with some supportive graphs for return on investment to at least be somewhat enticing.