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  • rowan
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2002
    • 17393

    #1

    Moniker down - network unreachable

    Looks like their BGP is flapping...
  • msp
    Registered User
    • Aug 2007
    • 46

    #2
    This makes the 2nd night in a row.

    Does anyone from Moniker moniter gfy anymore? Whats the status of the recent problems?

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    • CYF
      Coupon Guru
      • Mar 2009
      • 10973

      #3
      bari from moniker is on here i think
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      • rowan
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2002
        • 17393

        #4
        It's a network issue, their BGP routes are disappearing and reappearing enough times for routers to apply penalties. Their IPs are effectively being (temporarily) blacklisted by a large portion of the net.

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        • SomeCreep
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          • Mar 2003
          • 26118

          #5
          Ya, they gone.

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          • Sly
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            • Sep 2004
            • 31376

            #6
            All is good. Bari is cool and hot. All is good.
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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #7
              maybe getting hit by a estonian cyber-attack.

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              • msp
                Registered User
                • Aug 2007
                • 46

                #8
                I can ping their dns servers now (couldn't earlier) but they are NOT responding to queries, this looks more like they took a power hit.

                I tried icq'ing Bari last night, didn't get a response till 8 this morning, tried again just now, no response.

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                • moeloubani
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 4235

                  #9
                  whats this mean if we have domains hosted with them, should we be moving them?

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                  • Agent 488
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 22511

                    #10
                    better not fuck up my domains.

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                    • msp
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 46

                      #11
                      It means they need to geographicly split their servers.

                      They had a similar problem about a year ago, all of a sudden started having a series of short term outages, and promises were made, looks like they weren't kept.

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                      • rowan
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2002
                        • 17393

                        #12
                        Originally posted by moeloubani
                        whats this mean if we have domains hosted with them, should we be moving them?
                        I personally think that DNS hosting at your registrar is a bad idea since it introduces a second point of failure. If your webhost goes down then it doesn't really matter whether the DNS works, since your sites won't... but what happens if your DNS host goes down?

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                        • msp
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 46

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rowan
                          I personally think that DNS hosting at your registrar is a bad idea since it introduces a second point of failure. If your webhost goes down then it doesn't really matter whether the DNS works, since your sites won't... but what happens if your DNS host goes down?
                          Not completely true, if your web and mail are on different unrelated servers, then a failure on your webhost (if they also do your dns) will cause a mail failure as well, not a good solution.

                          DNS is SUPPOSED to be at the top of the food chain when it comes to reliability, redundancy, and uptime. I personally would NEVER let my webhost OR mailhost do dns, and for good reason, if they get pissed for some stupid reason, your held hostage, but if your dns is independent, its a simple change to point elsewhere.

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                          • rowan
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 17393

                            #14
                            Originally posted by msp
                            Not completely true, if your web and mail are on different unrelated servers, then a failure on your webhost (if they also do your dns) will cause a mail failure as well, not a good solution.
                            Agreed, if mail is important, but for those of us that have a million little freesites with no need (or desire) for surfers to contact us it's not so high on the list of priorities.

                            Originally posted by msp
                            DNS is SUPPOSED to be at the top of the food chain when it comes to reliability, redundancy, and uptime. I personally would NEVER let my webhost OR mailhost do dns, and for good reason, if they get pissed for some stupid reason, your held hostage, but if your dns is independent, its a simple change to point elsewhere.
                            They can't really hold it hostage since you can just change the name servers at your registrar. (Which is why you should never let your webhost register domains for you)

                            Granted this may take a little longer to propagate than a quick change to your zone file.

                            It does seem strange that a major registrar uses 4 DNS IPs from within the same block, meaning same route, same D/C, possibly even same server. That's an elementary mistake.

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                            • PSD
                              PornSiteDomains.com
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 1265

                              #15
                              That always bugged me that their DNS servers were not separated geographically.
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                              • msp
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 46

                                #16
                                Originally posted by rowan
                                It does seem strange that a major registrar uses 4 DNS IPs from within the same block, meaning same route, same D/C, possibly even same server. That's an elementary mistake.
                                And one that was identified, has broken before, and was promised to be fixed more than a year ago.

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                                • rowan
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 17393

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JCK
                                  That always bugged me that their DNS servers were not separated geographically.
                                  I started a small ISP in 1996 and even back then we had reciprocal arrangements to run each other's secondary name servers. For a major registrar in 2009 it's a no brainer.

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                                  • HandballJim
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2008
                                    • 4024

                                    #18
                                    hmmm all my domains with moniker...the websites are all down.
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                                    • PSD
                                      PornSiteDomains.com
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 1265

                                      #19
                                      Just tried to call them but they apparently only offer support till 12 EST. The message states one can create a support ticket online but their site uses the same DNS servers so one can't do that.
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                                      • AaliyahLove
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2008
                                        • 2722

                                        #20
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                                        • Net Money
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2007
                                          • 539

                                          #21
                                          Anyone that keeps their business domains at some small registar ran by some girl that occassionally hangs on a board called GFY needs their head examined.

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                                          • CYF
                                            Coupon Guru
                                            • Mar 2009
                                            • 10973

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Net Money
                                            Anyone that keeps their business domains at some small registar ran by some girl that occassionally hangs on a board called GFY needs their head examined.
                                            moniker is not a small registrar

                                            Bari does not run it, she is a customer account manager or something.
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                                            • Trend
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2008
                                              • 612

                                              #23
                                              Moniker is not some "small registrar"

                                              Remember back in 2008 " Oversee.net acquired domain registration and auction powerhouse Moniker for what is believed to be $65 million."

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                                              • germ
                                                ( o Y o )
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 3108

                                                #24
                                                So...any recommendations for a new registrar?

                                                Moniker has now officially cost me money.

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                                                • rowan
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Mar 2002
                                                  • 17393

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by germ
                                                  So...any recommendations for a new registrar?

                                                  Moniker has now officially cost me money.
                                                  Do you switch hosts when they're down for 2 hours? Just take it easy for a while.

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                                                  • rowan
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 17393

                                                    #26
                                                    The site is reachable but it looks like they're having application related problems... or maybe their DNS servers are still not working... I'm trying to reg a new domain and it's getting stuck at step 1, checking the status of the domain requested.

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                                                    • V_RocKs
                                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 32449

                                                      #27
                                                      I am with Rowan on this one. You really should separate that shit out so if the company goes bankrupt or any host of problems like fire in the server building, etc, you can always move certain shit to other providers...

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                                                      • SeizeTheDomain
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                                                        • Aug 2008
                                                        • 753

                                                        #28
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                                                        • seoguy
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                          • 381

                                                          #29
                                                          Hmm that's bad

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                                                          • rowan
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                            • 17393

                                                            #30
                                                            Managed to register the domain now... been waiting since this thread started nearly 7 hours ago. :D

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                                                            • rowan
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 17393

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                                              Managed to register the domain now... been waiting since this thread started nearly 7 hours ago. :D
                                                              Spoke too soon, I've been billed and the registration has been processed, but 2 hours later it's still not showing up globally. I guess Moniker are still recovering.

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                                                              • jrzeygirl
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                • 819

                                                                #32
                                                                Sorry for any inconvenience everyone. Moniker WAS down for about an hour or so during the night due to a network outage however we are back up/running.

                                                                Thanks
                                                                ~Bari
                                                                [email protected]
                                                                Skype: jrzeygirl

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                                                                • Sin_Vraal
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 465

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Frankly, due to the obscene amount of abuse moniker can handle, and the professional support they have. I will never be moving from them.

                                                                  Yes, their web interface blows.
                                                                  Yes, they had downtime.

                                                                  but also

                                                                  Yes they are cheap
                                                                  no they WILL NOT shut you off when some bitch calls to complain about your domain
                                                                  yes, they ALWAYS take care of my problems.

                                                                  a couple hours of downtime does suck, but again I can live with that... everyone has issues once in a while.

                                                                  For those of you that complain and cry... let me put this in perspective...
                                                                  if you did 1 MILLION dollars in sales a month (a few of you here crush that number, but most of you are posers) 2 hours of downtime is $2800. I dont know about you, but if a different domain registrar just yanked your domains even once for 1 day in 5 years , say like direct nic) because it was teen related, or spam related or something random that bitchy web surfer came up with. you made out ahead with moniker.

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                                                                  • rowan
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                    • 17393

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jrzeygirl
                                                                    Sorry for any inconvenience everyone. Moniker WAS down for about an hour or so during the night due to a network outage however we are back up/running.

                                                                    Thanks
                                                                    Been down much longer than an hour (see this thread for a more accurate timeframe), and the domain I registered 4 hours ago still isn't showing up in WHOIS... it's still available to register elsewhere...

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                                                                    • jrzeygirl
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 819

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by rowan
                                                                      Been down much longer than an hour (see this thread for a more accurate timeframe), and the domain I registered 4 hours ago still isn't showing up in WHOIS... it's still available to register elsewhere...
                                                                      They are working on the issues due to the network outage. Email me directly with the info including your account #, domain name etc and I'll be sure to follow up.

                                                                      Once again, I am sorry for the inconvenience.
                                                                      ~Bari
                                                                      [email protected]
                                                                      Skype: jrzeygirl

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                                                                      • Domain Diva
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Oct 2007
                                                                        • 10180

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by SeizeTheDomain
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                                                                        If Moniker ever impliments this vital feature...id be the first to switch over a bulk of domains to try them.

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                                                                        • Agent 488
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                          • 22511

                                                                          #37
                                                                          please change the title to:

                                                                          "Moniker down - support unreachable"

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                                                                          • SEO Expert
                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                            • Oct 2009
                                                                            • 428

                                                                            #38
                                                                            time to move away from Moniker

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                                                                            • SEO Expert
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Oct 2009
                                                                              • 428

                                                                              #39
                                                                              btw, never had any problems with GoDaddy

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                                                                              • jrzeygirl
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                                • 819

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Once again my apologies for any inconvenience. The issues have been resolved and Moniker is back up/running. If anyone is till experiencing any issues, please contact me directly.
                                                                                ~Bari
                                                                                [email protected]
                                                                                Skype: jrzeygirl

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                                                                                • bobby666
                                                                                  boots are my religion
                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                  • 21765

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  well she's a female

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                                                                                  • DaddyHalbucks
                                                                                    A freakin' legend!
                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                    • 18975

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Outages happen, but...

                                                                                    Moniker is the only company I trust with my domain assets.
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                                                                                    • justsexxx
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                      • 13723

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      When you have the DNS set to your own host a downtime doesn't matter does it?

                                                                                      Just curious, if your domains with registrar A and that company goes down, what happens with your domains?(assuming you are using the DNS/NS of your host)
                                                                                      Questions?

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                                                                                      • HandballJim
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Sep 2008
                                                                                        • 4024

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                        When you have the DNS set to your own host a downtime doesn't matter does it?

                                                                                        Just curious, if your domains with registrar A and that company goes down, what happens with your domains?(assuming you are using the DNS/NS of your host)
                                                                                        Sure it matters, you would be down. Moniker does not offer hosting...so if you want a website up you need to have an outside host. Most domainers use moniker since they are very good with security...and need an account if you plan on participating in Moniker/snapname auctions. The best domains go through Moniker/snapnames, Sedo, namejet, and Rick Latona.
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                                                                                        • rowan
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 17393

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                          When you have the DNS set to your own host a downtime doesn't matter does it?

                                                                                          Just curious, if your domains with registrar A and that company goes down, what happens with your domains?(assuming you are using the DNS/NS of your host)
                                                                                          Nothing should happen since the TLD root servers are independent of a particular registrar. If you're hosting your DNS at a third party then the registrar has nothing to do with DNS queries for your domain. If for some reason you need to CHANGE your name servers while your registrar is down then you're going to have problems...

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                                                                                          • Nikki_Licks
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • May 2005
                                                                                            • 6323

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by CYF
                                                                                            moniker is not a small registrar

                                                                                            Bari does not run it, she is a customer account manager or something.
                                                                                            I can one thing, if it wasn't for Bari, nothing would get done or at least this is my feeling. I have always contacted her with issues and she promptly gets the job accomplished, kind of like MIchaelO with epass...same scenario.
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