Pink Visual Files $6.75M Suit Against Brazzers

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  • TheDoc
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    • Jul 2001
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    Pink Visual Files $6.75M Suit Against Brazzers

    "NEW YORK — Pink Visual’s holding company has filed suit against the owners of Brazzers, alleging that four company-owned tube sites poached content from 45 copyrighted movies and have streamed them “tens of millions of times.”

    he websites at issue in Pink Visual’s $6.75 million complaint include KeezMovies.com, PornHub.com, Extremetube.com and Tube8.com, all owned by Canadian companies Mansef Inc. and Interhub, whose officers operate both companies. "

    Read it here at Xbiz!

    Wow.... all I can say.
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  • TMM_John
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    • cosis
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      #3
      Is this another lawsuit or the same ?
      http://www.xbiz.com/news/117517

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      • FreeHugeMovies
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        #4
        Aren't they protected by DMAC like everyone else? I see nothing diff. here.

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          • WiredGuy
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            Representing Pind Visual’s holding company (Ventura Content) in the case is the law firm Jenner and Block LLP, the same firm that represented copyright owners in their successful actions against Grokster, TorrentSpy and Usenet.com, among others.
            Wow. Impressive lawyers ;)
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            • TheDoc
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              #7
              Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
              Aren't they protected by DMAC like everyone else? I see nothing diff. here.
              When you don't comply... it becomes vastly different.
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              • seeandsee
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                #8
                Originally posted by TheDoc
                "NEW YORK ? Pink Visual?s holding company has filed suit against the owners of Brazzers, alleging that four company-owned tube sites poached content from 45 copyrighted movies and have streamed them ?tens of millions of times.?

                he websites at issue in Pink Visual?s $6.75 million complaint include KeezMovies.com, PornHub.com, Extremetube.com and Tube8.com, all owned by Canadian companies Mansef Inc. and Interhub, whose officers operate both companies. "

                Read it here at Xbiz!

                Wow.... all I can say.
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                • TheDoc
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by seeandsee
                  only 7 mil, small
                  That should be a sign as to how tough it is... it isn't as easy and cheap as 'we' like to think things like this are.


                  This truly the time to celebrate... if it was $1 or $10 billion, this is exactly what our Industry has been begging for and TopBucks and crew just stood up and took that fight on!


                  Oh, and don't forget... Brazzers Parent Fighting $6.4 Million Forfeiture Suit - Source Xbiz it's coming from all sides!
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                  • SomeCreep
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                    #10
                    That case is going to drag out a while. In the end, both companies will settle. The lawyers will make out like bandits.

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                    • Roald
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                      Lets see how this works out. I predict a settlement.


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                      • CIVMatt
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                        #12
                        Yeah congrats to the lawyers
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                        • Sosa
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by CIVMatt
                          Yeah congrats to the lawyers
                          Was thinking the same thing. Lots of money going their way no matter what happens.

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                          • Chris
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                            #14
                            kinda glad i stuck to saying no to the tubes
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                              • fris
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                                this should be interesting
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                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                  #17
                                  It was all a matter of time. Hope they all go down one by one and someone puts a new law in place and we can go back to making money like it's 1999.
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                                  • Roald
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Chris
                                    kinda glad i stuck to saying no to the tubes
                                    Nothing wrong with a tube when done properly

                                    2cents


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                                    • Nautilus
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                                      Finally some great news! Finally the war on tubes has began, finally using well thought and plausible legal theory (not some obscure "loss leader" etc charges which were tried before).

                                      Topbucks you have our full support on this. If there's anything other producers can help you, just let us know. I'm pretty sure many other affected companies/individual producers will be willing to support your cause and your fight which is very important to all of us, to all of our industry.
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                                      • Fat Panda
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                                        #20
                                        I hope these lawyers cover Brazzers in so much fucking paper work it will take then decades to crawl out!

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                                        • Daddy Big Nuts
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sosa
                                          Was thinking the same thing. Lots of money going their way no matter what happens.
                                          You got that right........

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                                          • grumpy
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                                            #22
                                            finally someone is doing something, might be a great example for others, lets hope they win
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                                            • Chris
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Roald
                                              Nothing wrong with a tube when done properly

                                              2cents
                                              never really seen a highly successful LEGAL tube site.... but i havnt really looked either ... you know of one???
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                                              • Axeman
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                Wow. Impressive lawyers ;)
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                                                • hypedough
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                                                  About fucking time

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                                                  • TheDoc
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Chris
                                                    never really seen a highly successful LEGAL tube site.... but i havnt really looked either ... you know of one???
                                                    The illegal tube came first, it takes time for the tide to shift and YouPorn is legal.
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                                                    • Roald
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Chris
                                                      never really seen a highly successful LEGAL tube site.... but i havnt really looked either ... you know of one???
                                                      highly successfull as in traffic numbers like the "iligal" ones nope not really. But that doens;t take away the fact that there is nothing wrong with the tube model itself ;)


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                                                      • Agent 488
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                                                        #28
                                                        adapt or die.

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                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                          #29
                                                          2 lawsuits for a total of 13 million in one week - that must hurt a little
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                                                          • lazycash
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                                                            #30
                                                            Maybe Brazzers can get the US government to hand over the 6.5 million to Pink Visual they are holding.
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                                                            • Mutt
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                                                              #31
                                                              i salute TopBucks - about time somebody with deep pockets went after these thieves and they are going to win and win big. This ain't Viacom vs YouTube - we all know how the tube sites are run in porn, they won't be able to hide behind the DMCA, I'm sure that law firm will find plenty of evidence that blows them out of the water.

                                                              I just hope TopBucks sees the case through trial and doesn't take a settlement.

                                                              Direct download forums and blogs are worse than tubes. Unfortunately I do think that Rapidshare is set up in such a way that there is no legal case against them.
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                                                              • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                2 lawsuits for a total of 13 million in one week - that must hurt a little
                                                                Rough week for sure. Must be friends with Joe Francis.
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                                                                • Agent 488
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                                                                  • kristin
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Nautilus
                                                                    Finally some great news! Finally the war on tubes has began, finally using well thought and plausible legal theory (not some obscure "loss leader" etc charges which were tried before).

                                                                    Topbucks you have our full support on this. If there's anything other producers can help you, just let us know. I'm pretty sure many other affected companies/individual producers will be willing to support your cause and your fight which is very important to all of us, to all of our industry.
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                                                                    • alan-l
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by kristin
                                                                      For anyone who would like information on how to help, or has additional info, please contact our in-house counsel.
                                                                      I'll tell our lawyers to get in touch with you since we're going after several tube sites in European courts. Won't say anything else on a public board, but I'm sure we'll be able to exchange ideas or join efforts.

                                                                      Either way, it was about time for someone to do something

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                                                                      • frank7799
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Roald
                                                                        Nothing wrong with a tube when done properly

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                                                                        • MaDalton
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          it is an open secret that bogus user profiles are created inhouse and content is uploaded through them. but i doubt that something that was said after 5 beer at a bar is usable at any court
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                                                                          • Nautilus
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by kristin
                                                                            For anyone who would like information on how to help, or has additional info, please contact our in-house counsel.
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                              It was all a matter of time. Hope they all go down one by one and someone puts a new law in place and we can go back to making money like it's 1999.
                                                                              Lets try 1995, or 1996.. oh the days of the wild west.
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                                                                              • MoreMagic
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Shit I liked there videos on the brazzers tubes

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                                                                                • baddog
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Well, she did say to put your money where your mouth is. Guess she is following her own advice.

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                                                                                  • Nautilus
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by alan-l
                                                                                    I'll tell our lawyers to get in touch with you since we're going after several tube sites in European courts.
                                                                                    Excellent news too. European tubes must be an even easier target than those US based since there's no DMCA in Europe, so good luck hunting.
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                                                                                    • Bman
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Congrats! I love Topbucks even more. Doing the right thing is always good!
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                                                                                      • marketsmart
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                        it is an open secret that bogus user profiles are created inhouse and content is uploaded through them. but i doubt that something that was said after 5 beer at a bar is usable at any court
                                                                                        no, but log files do and trying to explain why you have no log files to a judge doesnt help out your fight...


                                                                                        plus like i stated over a year ago, if these companies can pay people to sift through uploaded content and shitcan files with watermarks then they can surely check for pirated content..
                                                                                        Last edited by marketsmart; 02-16-2010, 11:39 AM.

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                                                                                        • Klen
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Hope this will work without any settlement.
                                                                                          Also about DMCA thing-that thing about "if they remove content when requested,they are not guilty"does'nt have much sense beacuse when you notice your content on sites and send request to remove it can be viewed million times.
                                                                                          Also,does anyone remember case RIAA versus napster?
                                                                                          I mean it's basicly same shit but little different delivery type,they managed to force napster to filter all ilegall content and to show only legal files.

                                                                                          So what someone should do,is to force biggest tube sites to either remove upload function,or filter all content which doesnt have proper documentation,same as they did with napster and mininova.
                                                                                          Also,there is absolutely no need to steal content,after all they earn enough money to buy shitload of content or even to produce exclusive content for tube site.
                                                                                          And so far biggest legal tube is 4tube.com,not youporn.com which still accept uploads and i see docs requiments only for Usa public.
                                                                                          Last edited by Klen; 02-16-2010, 11:44 AM.

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                                                                                          • Dirty D
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Mad respect for Top Bucks and Titan Media stepping up to legally prosecute theft by certain tube sites.

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                                                                                            • just a punk
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                              That case is going to drag out a while. In the end, both companies will settle. The lawyers will make out like bandits.
                                                                                              Sad but true
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                                                                                              • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Way to go, respect for Top Bucks!
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                                                                                                • Half man, Half Amazing
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  bump for great news!!!!
                                                                                                  Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                                                                                  • Bman
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    A couple more big lawsuits and I would assume they are done...
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