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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
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    #1

    FACT: No One Was Called a Scammer

    Enough already.

    No matter how many times you repeat it, or how you try and bend it to what you want it to mean, or bridge two distant points no one was called a scammer. At best, based on the series of events THAT DAY the original post may have inferred he was a fake nick.

    Under the logic being used in these threads, if some one like tony parra (sorry tony), who has said he works at Subway (or fast food in general) had a thread started about him with his name in the title, and someone posted a picture of the Batts at McDonalds pictures to imply he was a fast food worker he could say you are trying to call him Batts and a scammer.

    Based on the events that day in regards to BigDeanEvans, Splenderous_Male banning, the Batts ICQ's an hour after being banned, the remarks BDE made towards me that day (without proof mind you), and a nick with no sig nor contact information it most people could take those series of coincidences and inferred the same. A fake nick.

    Even if you look at the subject header, what does it imply? A fake nick. Not that anyone is a scammer, nor anything else. The circumstance again, ON THE DAY, were a whole hell of a lot more convincing then THIS THREAD where people were accusing me of being a fake nick, and saying shit without any proof. Should they all be banned? No one was.

    Let me repeat, NO ONE WAS CALLED A SCAMMER
    .

    Just because you want to go that extra mile in word association games and saying "Batts" is, or his name in any reference on GFY, means "scam" does not make it so. That's your own personal business and opinion. Not everyone knows who Batts is, nor his history here.

    Additionally, I explained that based on the circumstances that day, and time line, how the opinion on the fake nick came to be. I apologized to him. Yet he, and a handful of others, keep beating this war drum saying these things that frankly are not true in regards to scammer references, and what not. None of that was ever inferred from that post, or any remarks I have ever said in regards to BigDeanEvans. Maybe if I had a history of saying things in that regard to him or about his business, someone could make that association. But there isn't.

    Lastly, there are many who do not like me. That's fine. There are plenty of people I do not like on the boards myself. Nor will they ever do business with me, or I with them. You have the option to put me on ignore, or use that F.F. plug in so you do not see myself or my posts on GFY.

    Have things gotten out of hand at times? Sure. Have I messed up at times? Everyone has. However, I apologized publicly for my mistakes, and meant it. If someone does not want to accept that apology, fine. However, this twisting of the issue is really getting out of hand. People, myself included, are getting tired of seeing my name daily on the front of GFY.

    Carry on.
    Last edited by Barefootsies; 04-28-2010, 06:25 AM.
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      • candyflip
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        • CDSmith
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          #5
          I never saw where you actually called anyone a scammer, using those exact words.

          All I saw was you saying you think he is Batts. Not really the same thing as calling someone a scammer.


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              • CunningStunt
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                It's due fella.

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                • dyna mo
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                  #9
                  i didn't realize things had escalated to such a serious issue as to need a point/counter-point thread.

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                  • candyflip
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                    i didn't realize things had escalated to such a serious issue as to need a point/counter-point thread.
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                    • Barefootsies
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                      • Feb 2005
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by CDSmith
                      All I saw was you saying you think he is Batts. Not really the same thing as calling someone a scammer.
                      Exactly. Which is the same thing the mods, or anyone without an agenda or axe to grind, would see. They would see that I was implying/inferring/hinting he was a fake nick.

                      Until that day, and this posts toward me I had no idea who this nickname even was. If you look in the post history of him and myself, I have no running battle with this dude. He has not sig or contact information. So how would you know what he even does in this industry in the first place?

                      As I said in the O.P., based on events that day, the threads, the IM's, the ban, it is a bit more clear. Not a week and a half later when someone bumps that thread, and THEN wants to get huffy and say all these things that were not meant.

                      I apologized for the inferring he was a fake nick. Which was a lot more than I received when I was called a fake nick by Sleazy a few months back, and trolled for a week about it.

                      Whether you like me or not, the facts remain. No one was called a scammer.
                      Last edited by Barefootsies; 04-28-2010, 06:42 AM.
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                      • Barefootsies
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        i didn't realize things had escalated to such a serious issue as to need a point/counter-point thread.
                        Actually if you look at all these 'Barefootsies' threads and who are in them, and keep fanning the flames it becomes a bit more clear. Are there a few new names in there getting pissed off, and rightfully so? Sure.

                        It really came out of that other thread and my post, which I apologized for being inconsiderate and not thinking. I deserved my lumps for that one, and it's fine. I am more than willing to take them for that. I fucked up.

                        However, this SCAMMER bullshit and all these threads, and special rules crap really is nonsense at this point. The facts taken as a whole on the day reinforce the fake nick assumption. There is nothing else to infer anything about me calling someone a scammer since I know nothing about this guy or his business.
                        Last edited by Barefootsies; 04-28-2010, 06:48 AM.
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                        • Koodoo
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                          #13
                          sig spot.

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                          • Barefootsies
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Caligari
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                            I'll have to look that one up.
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                              • sextoyking
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                                #16
                                BF,

                                You have pretty much tarnished your rep with all these threads, sig spots, etc

                                I would take a chill pill for a few days, get away from the boards - and examine myself a little more...

                                Ask yourself, do I act like a professional in my industry....

                                To infer, to me is the same as actually calling someone a scammer, etc.

                                1. My nick is John Smith
                                2. A true verified scammers nick is John Jones
                                3. You post a thread with the title - John Smith = John Jones

                                If you have any smarts at all you would know what ppl would think when they saw that..

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                                • Caligari
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                  I'll have to look that one up.
                                  you probably won't find it as it is still pending in the great book of sig spot references
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                                  • Koodoo
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Koodoo
                                    sig spot.
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                                    • ShellyCrash
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                                      • Barefootsies
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sextoyking
                                        If you have any smarts at all you would know what ppl would think when they saw that..
                                        Thanks for the concern about my rep as always. It will be fine, as sales yesterday reinforce. I will worry about my rep around here, and how I carry myself. It's my business to run.

                                        That said, you do mean a week and a half later right? People were soooooo INFURIATED about that post that it took them a week and a half to react to it? Not repeated, even ONE POST reply! Especially on a slow weekend where it takes time for threads to fall off the front page?

                                        Right. Come on man. Get real.

                                        People who do not like me will bend it into what they want to see. Someone objective looking at that day, and the threads where I am being attacked again on that day, the banning of that nick, the ICQ IM's from a supposed Batts, and a nick with no contact info or sig doing the same stuff Batts had done in the past would see things a bit more clearly, and objectively.

                                        It has to do with the actual FACTS of the matter and series of events. Nothing more.
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                                        • Barefootsies
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ShellyCrash
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                                            • sextoyking
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                              Thanks for the concern about my rep as always. It will be fine, as sales yesterday reinforce. I will worry about my rep around here, and how I carry myself. It's my business to run.

                                              That said, you do mean a week and a half later right? People were soooooo INFURIATED about that post that it took them a week and a half to react to it? Especially on a slow weekend where it takes time for threads to fall off the front page?

                                              Right. Come on man. Get real.

                                              People who do not like me will bend it into what they want to see. Someone objective looking at that day, and the threads where I am being attacked again on that day, the banning of that nick, the ICQ IM's from a supposed Batts, and a nick with no contact info or sig doing the same stuff Batts had done in the past would see things a bit more clearly, and objectively.

                                              It has to do with the actual FACTS of the matter and series of events. Nothing more.
                                              Dude,

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                                              • Ross
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sextoyking
                                                Dude,

                                                I am starting to think your a lost cause

                                                First off - you know you should quote a whole post instead of just the lines you want to quote.

                                                2nd - You show no respect for this community - even know it is called GFY

                                                3rd. Why am I even debating anything with you?? - I shall seek help...
                                                I thought your first post was some sound advice, but he chose to ignore the best part of it.

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                                                  • Barefootsies
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LeRoy
                                                    A little late but see siggy.
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                                                    • DateDoc
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                                                      #27
                                                      your original post should have at least said see sig at the bottom.

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                                                        • Barefootsies
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by DateDoc
                                                          your original post should have at least said see sig at the bottom.
                                                          Nah. However, plenty of others will cash in.
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                                                          • IllTestYourGirls
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                                                            #30
                                                            I missed the Batts drama, why was he banned?

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                                                              • Barefootsies
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by TrashyContent
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                                                                • WarChild
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I imply you infer. Just a pet peeve.
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                                                                    Originally posted by Farang
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                                                                      • fris
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        if someone were to call you batts, you would ask for proof, so follow your own words, you always ask for proof or you will get them banned. why not follow the same widsom.

                                                                        im not hating or anything, or said you called him a scammer, but you can assume anything you want, but if you were in the other shoes, you always ask for proof, so next time someone calls you out and you ask for proof, maybe they dont have to provide any because you dont when the shoe is on the other foot.
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                                                                        • kristin
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Okay, one question - I read through most of the threads but could have missed it.

                                                                          Did you post the proof on the board or just show Eric?
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                                                                          • Agent 488
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            if someone said x = gary glitter one would assume you were implying x was a pedo. same thing.

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                                                                            • Barefootsies
                                                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                                                              • Feb 2005
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by fris
                                                                              if someone were to call you batts, you would ask for proof, so follow your own words, you always ask for proof or you will get them banned. why not follow the same widsom.

                                                                              but if you were in the other shoes, you always ask for proof
                                                                              Was Sleazy banned when he called me a fake nick in not just one, but multiple threads?

                                                                              Nope. Case in point.

                                                                              You can try and make your case for what YOU think 'Batts' name in some thread means, and that everyone on the board thinks that means scammer. However, the FACT of the matter here was, BigDeanEvans was being called a FAKE NICK in CONTEXT of the day, thread, and series of events.

                                                                              You can keep beating this war drum trying to muddy the water, but when all the FACTS of that day are laid out in front of someone without a vendetta, or agenda, they see it for what it was. No one was called a scammer. At best, a fake nick. Nothing more.
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                                                                              • Barefootsies
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                                                if someone said x = gary glitter one would assume you were implying x was a pedo. same thing.
                                                                                Your ASSumption of meaning to you is not me actually ACCUSING anyone.

                                                                                Sorry.
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by sextoyking
                                                                                  1. My nick is John Smith
                                                                                  2. A true verified scammers nick is John Jones
                                                                                  3. You post a thread with the title - John Smith = John Jones

                                                                                  If you have any smarts at all you would know what ppl would think when they saw that..


                                                                                  Slam-dunk.

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                                                                                    • Barefootsies
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by SEO Expert


                                                                                      Slam-dunk.
                                                                                      Maybe to the DJ's of the world.
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                                                                                      • Barefootsies
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by kristin
                                                                                        Did you post the proof on the board or just show Eric?
                                                                                        I have mentioned enough details in the various threads that someone who was actually THAT INTERESTED could piece together the series of posts, and events, on the day mentioned and see what has been shown to Eric for the most part.

                                                                                        Just as someone can easily see that Batts/BigDeanEvans thread went almost a week and a half old before there was a SINGLE reply to it.

                                                                                        He was called a fake nick. He received an apology. Which was more than Sleazy gave me.
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                                                                                        • kristin
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                          I have mentioned enough details in the various threads that someone who was actually THAT INTERESTED could piece together the series of posts, and events, on the day mentioned and see what has been shown to Eric for the most part.

                                                                                          Just as someone can easily see that Batts/BigDeanEvans thread went almost a week and a half old before there was a SINGLE reply to it.

                                                                                          He was called a fake nick. He received an apology. Which was more than Sleazy gave me.
                                                                                          Did you mention just those details to Eric for him to piece it together or did you give him all the info?

                                                                                          I think that's the issue, you will call someone out and then show partial proof in the thread, but show the entire proof to Eric.

                                                                                          If you can't post all the proof in the thread, maybe it shouldn't be posted at all. You should go to Eric first with your info and asked for him to be banned or for Eric to dig into it more.
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                                                                                          • Barefootsies
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by kristin
                                                                                            Did you mention just those details to Eric for him to piece it together or did you give him all the info?

                                                                                            I think that's the issue, you will call someone out and then show partial proof in the thread, but show the entire proof to Eric.

                                                                                            If you can't post all the proof in the thread, maybe it shouldn't be posted at all. You should go to Eric first with your info and asked for him to be banned or for Eric to dig into it more.
                                                                                            What are you missing here?

                                                                                            On that day, in the context of events on that day, with the banning, remarks BDE had posted, the posted screen shot of Batts IM I received and posted, and couple of threads involved in this, it would have made sense to anyone following that day's drama.

                                                                                            When you come poking around a week and a half later and then making your ASSumptions based on incomplete information that's my fault? Nigga please.

                                                                                            If you wanna come into threads, and discussions with incomplete information and making your remarks, asking for bannings, and alike. Don't get mad at me you did not do your homework.

                                                                                            On that day all those things WERE all available if you were so interested. But not a SINGLE person was interested for a week and a half. Got it?
                                                                                            Last edited by Barefootsies; 04-28-2010, 09:36 AM.
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                                                                                            • kristin
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                              What are you missing here?

                                                                                              On that day, in the context of events on that day, with the banning, remarks BDE had posted, the posted screen shot of Batts IM I received and posted, and couple of threads involved in this, it would have made sense to anyone following that day's drama.

                                                                                              When you come poking around a week and a half later and then making your ASSumptions based on incomplete information that's my fault? Nigga please.

                                                                                              If you wanna come into threads, and discussions with incomplete information and making your remarks, asking for bannings, and alike. Don't get mad at me you did not do your homework.

                                                                                              On that day those things WERE all available if you were so interested. But not a SINGLE person was interested for a week and a half. Got it?
                                                                                              Now I just think you copy and paste without reading the person's response.

                                                                                              I'm done now, back to work.
                                                                                              Vacares rules.

                                                                                              "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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                                                                                              • Barefootsies
                                                                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                • Feb 2005
                                                                                                • 42635

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by kristin
                                                                                                Now I just think you copy and paste without reading the person's response.
                                                                                                You're welcome to believe whatever you like to believe. The facts remain.

                                                                                                Originally posted by kristin
                                                                                                I'm done now, back to work.
                                                                                                Peace out.
                                                                                                Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                                                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                                                Enough Said.

                                                                                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                                                • Barefootsies
                                                                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                  • 42635

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                                                                  See Sig !
                                                                                                  Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                                                  Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                                                  Enough Said.

                                                                                                  "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                                                  • Barefootsies
                                                                                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                                                                    • 42635

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                                                                                                    ball hard woadie
                                                                                                    Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                                                                    Enough Said.

                                                                                                    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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