Economical, Healthy, Easy way to clean up the oil

[Karupted Charles]

Did anyone see this. I was shocked how well it appears to work. If this crisis can be fixed using this method it could mean the ocean is not so fucked and it would bring allot of money to US farms.

http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/

[L-Pink]

Well shit, that was interestingly simple.


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[Tanker]

super simple
blow the hay whats the worst case scenario hay on the ocean?

[sperbonzo]

Not bad.... of course it would drive the price of beef through the roof....



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[LoveSandra]

*epic fail

[leedsfan]

fuck. love that....

[mayabong]

nice thanks those rednecks are heroes.

[96ukssob]

great idea if you have an oil spill in your swimming pool, but did they take into account the SIZE of the ocean?

where are they going to get all the hey (i dont even care if thats not how you spell it) and second, what are they going to do with it after it soaks up all the oil?

the only way this will be cleaned up is if someone can figure a way to pull the oil from the water, then be able to REUSE it afterwards. none of these companies or the gov't are going to pay a dime for clean up unless they can make a quarter on the back end

[~Ray]

lots of federal land with those types of grass growing, dying and rarely being used... howerver, it is only Spring, so it may nat be high enough to harvest.

[Penthouse Tony]

the only way this will be cleaned up is if someone can figure a way to pull the oil from the water, then be able to REUSE it afterwards. none of these companies or the gov't are going to pay a dime for clean up unless they can make a quarter on the back end

I doubt anyone will be able to make money on this spill. It will likely cost more in energy use to clean it than anyone can salvage from the oil.

[seeandsee]

Did anyone see this. I was shocked how well it appears to work. If this crisis can be fixed using this method it could mean the ocean is not so fucked and it would bring allot of money to US farms.

http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/

free energy that kills

[_Richard_]

Did anyone see this. I was shocked how well it appears to work. If this crisis can be fixed using this method it could mean the ocean is not so fucked and it would bring allot of money to US farms.

http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil/

that is incredible

[BestXXXPorn]

What happens in salt water?

And what happens when all the light is blocked out and changes the temp of the ocean in that area?

Any way you slice it they should at least test that method out in bulk... start with like a couple tons drop it by C-130... see what happens! Call in some out of work fishing rigs to net all the hay...

[L-Pink]

What happens in salt water?

And what happens when all the light is blocked out and changes the temp of the ocean in that area?

Any way you slice it they should at least test that method out in bulk... start with like a couple tons drop it by C-130... see what happens! Call in some out of work fishing rigs to net all the hay...

And they could do this in 1 day with virtually no negative results if it fails.


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[JenniDahling]

Too bad it's in such deep water. What they need is something like giant condoms that they can roll onto the pipe and capture the flow in big ass balloons like old school water balloons on a faucet. I hope the containment boxes can help.

[BV]

Not bad.... of course it would drive the price of beef through the roof....



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it would do no such thing

[Phoenix]

this seems like a good idea...id also wonder what happened in salt water and at different temperatures and pressures...but it seems it would grab alot of the surface oil

[BV]

there are tons and tons of wheat straw around here left over from last year

would be great for hay farmers, because right now you can barely even sell hay or wheat straw

give them a chance to make some money on hay & straw finally

[BV]

this seems like a good idea...id also wonder what happened in salt water and at different temperatures and pressures...but it seems it would grab alot of the surface oil

all of the oil will be on the surface, the oil that does sink is caused from the chemicals they add to it, supposedly to naturally degrade by underwater organisms or some shit

[dyna mo]

according to this article it would not be a viable way to clean the mess-

As most engineers know, "Everyone has a brilliant idea that will not work." And this is one of them, although we must commend these two gentlemen for trying.

Hay absorbs water just as readily as oil. There are EPA-approved products that absorb only oil, even in water, for example HTP. But for this discussion we'll assume hay will absorb only the oil.

The area of the spill now exceeds 6,000 sq. miles and more than 11 million gallons of oil are in the sea (link).

That means that the weight of the oil in the water is just over 40,000 tons (7.29 lbs/gallon).

Let's assume it takes only 2 ounces of hay per sq. ft. of oil, which seems reasonable, requiring one pound of hay per eight sq. ft.

Six thousand sq. miles of oil is 172,232,755,200 square feet. That will require 21,529,094,400 pounds of hay to absorb. Note that these are billions figures. That amount of hay is 10,764,547 tons.

So you're going to transport almost eleven million tons of hay to sea to absorb 40,000 tons of oil.

Then, after the hay has absorbed the oil, the oil is still in the water. Only instead of having to deal with (a mere) 40,000 tons of oil alone, you've got to scoop up 10,804,619 tons of oil-sodden hay.

I admire these men's earnestness, but this is not a plan.

Let's do the cube, too. A bale of hay is compacted by a hay baling machine and can weigh between 60-130 pounds, depending on the machine's settings. Let's use the high figure. This hay bale measures 48 inches by 18 by 18, giving a volume of 15,552 cubic inches, or 9 cubic feet.

So: the volume of cargo capacity to transport the hay to the spill is 1,490,475,766 cubic feet. For planning purposes, cargo vessels use 100 cubic feet of volume to equal one metric ton of weight. Confusingly, this measure mixes English and metric systems and also uses the word "ton" to refer to the 100 cubic feet. In merchant-vessel terminology, a metric ton, or tonne, is referred to as a deadweight tonne (DWT) and equals 1,000 kilograms, hence one metric ton. ("Tonne" means 1,000 KG so "metric tonne" is redundant; in the US the term, "metric ton" is usually used instead of "tonne.")

It takes 11.11 bales of hay to fill 100 cubic feet, and the bales do not weigh a tonne, they weigh 1,444.44 pounds, or 655 kg. In other words, any vessel carrying hay would "cube out" before it would "weight out" - it would run out of space for the hay before it met its weight limit.

To carry all 165,608,418 bales of hay for the job would require 14,904,758 tons of volume (14,904,758 units of 100 cubic feet). A single modern Handymax bulk-cargo vessel has a capacity of about 55,000 DWT, but would cube out with hay at 4,950,000 bales. Hence, transporting 165.6 million hay bales to the spill area would require 33 Handymax ships. That's a tiny fraction of the number of Handymax ships in the world, of course, and certainly well within the harbor capacity of Gulf ports to handle. So simply carrying the hay to the spill appears to pose little logistic problem, but recovering it from the sea is an enormous problem since cargo vessels are entirely unequipped to do so. So what is these gentlemen's plan to do that?

We always must remember to think the problem all the way through. I mean no disrespect to these two gentlemen, truly, but they did not do so.

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

nice thanks those rednecks are heroes.

Yeah they are, now the same oil company that started this mess, will invent a new Hay Oil Cleaning Supply and bank off of their own mess.

[Cyandin]

brilliant!!

[seeric]

thats par for the course.

government cant do a damn thing with thousands of people on their payrolls, but two hicks from BFE got it figured out to the T.

typical of our gov.

we should have let these guys build the levees in N.O. i bet they'd still be standing.

[leedsfan]

according to this article it would not be a viable way to clean the mess-

figured it was likely to be unwieldy, but that shows in it clear daylight. Not going to work.

I think it could be used in areas close to shore, to prevent shore line damage. But for spill areas further afield it can't be practical.

[dyna mo]

figured it was likely to be unwieldy, but that shows in it clear daylight. Not going to work.

I think it could be used in areas close to shore, to prevent shore line damage. But for spill areas further afield it can't be practical.

i was beginning to wonder if anyone actually read what i quoted.