Mike South, step inside...

[HELMY]

Mike,

In regards to your blog post here:
http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategoriz...ec-helmy-3922/


For the record:

1. ASACP is a 501(c)(4).

2. Therefore no one owns it.

3. No such deal has been made.

4. The Advisory Council reviews and votes on all key matters pertaining to ASACP.

5. Review this link as well.




Alec

[NaughtyRob]

Very interesting story.

[munki]

Still can't find the damn like button on this thing... Good post.

[crazytrini85]

Mike,

In regards to your blog post here:
http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategoriz...ec-helmy-3922/


For the record:

1. ASACP is a 501(c)(4).

2. Therefore no one owns it.

3. No such deal has been made.

4. The Advisory Council reviews and votes on all key matters pertaining to ASACP.

Alec

I was going to just say bullshit 4 times but decided not to.

Most people who are into shady things go out of their way to disconnect themselves from them and hide behind laws and corporate structure to claim they don't really own it. Not saying this is the case here, but YOU LOOK GUILTY AS HELL. Your organization gets paid but you don't. Right. My offshore shell corp makes all of my money and I live below the poverty line so I don't pay taxes so I know your song and dance. Nice try. May work with the simpletons but not with the rest.

That post of Mikes he says something that rings true. "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it's a duck." The question then becomes, why do you walk and quack like a duck if you're not a duck?

[Nikki_Licks]

Very interesting story.

Yep, sure is......

[baddog]

Mike brings up a great question though. I was assured months ago that xbiz.net would be industry people only. Why is Lawley allowed to be the exception?

[punkpred]

Mike brings up a great question though. I was assured months ago that xbiz.net would be industry people only. Why is Lawley allowed to be the exception?

Good point

[crazytrini85]

Mike brings up a great question though. I was assured months ago that xbiz.net would be industry people only. Why is Lawley allowed to be the exception?

Be prepared for a massive spin.

It is painfully obvious that those who are looking out for the business and the welfare of kids just porked us all in the rear. But can you blame them?

[marketsmart]

Mike brings up a great question though. I was assured months ago that xbiz.net would be industry people only. Why is Lawley allowed to be the exception?

because they are planning on him generating millions of dollars....

i wonder how much salary alec takes out for overseeing asacp....





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[GonZo]

Mike,

In regards to your blog post here:
http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategoriz...ec-helmy-3922/


For the record:

1. ASACP is a 501(c)(4).

2. Therefore no one owns it.

3. No such deal has been made.

4. The Advisory Council reviews and votes on all key matters pertaining to ASACP.

5. Review this link as well.




Alec

Alec

Mike South has been banned from here. He can neither see nor reply to your post.
I often wonder how many of the CP sites have been shut down over the years by ASACP.
Do yall keep a list somewhere?

[BigDeanEvans]

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. This whole industry if full of thieving muthafuckers.

[LeRoy]

Looks very interesting indeed.

[TheDoc]

Truly, lots of you confuse me.....

[HELMY]

Alec

Mike South has been banned from here. He can neither see nor reply to your post.
I often wonder how many of the CP sites have been shut down over the years by ASACP.
Do yall keep a list somewhere?

Too bad.

Joan or Tim can answer that question.

[HELMY]

Mike brings up a great question though. I was assured months ago that xbiz.net would be industry people only. Why is Lawley allowed to be the exception?

So long as a person is relevant to the industry, we give them full consideration - XBIZ does not factor in unpopularity.

If we cannot confirm a person's relevance (or their line of business), he/she does not get in.

To date, 1000+ sign-ups have NOT been approved - jfyi.

[baddog]

So long as a person is relevant to the industry, we give them full consideration - XBIZ does not factor in unpopularity.

If we cannot confirm a person's relevance (or their line of business), he/she does not get in.

To date, 1000+ sign-ups have NOT been approved - jfyi.

So, someone that was assigned by the Justice Dept to shut down all porn sites would be eligible because it would be relevant?

[Relentless]

So, someone that was assigned by the Justice Dept to shut down all porn sites would be eligible because it would be relevant?

Wouldn't someone assigned by the Justice Department to shut down all pornsites be smart enough to put a few Blogs up and claim that they are not from the Justice Department... and their agenda is not to shut down the industry? I post on dozens of message boards (including XBIZ.net) and I assume every one of them is being watched closely by competitors, law enforcement, potential business partners, etc....

The notion that a message board is some kind of 'private club house' beyond the prying eyes of consumers or others is silly beyond belief. XBIZ.net does a better job than most of weeding out trolls and idiots... Lawley is neither a troll nor an idiot. I am not a fan of .xxx at all, I am not a fan of Lawley at all.... but the charge of 'ooOOooo he got access to a message board even though it's on double-secret-special-lockdown' is downright silly.

[Vendzilla]

Mike South has had a hard-on for Alec Helmy for years over .xxx and the Xbiz awards. He came after me and Stephen over it because Stephen worked for him and I was a moderator at XBiz.com. Then when his whining didn't get him anywhere, he dragged it over to GFY while I was the new guy working at Playboy.
He posted pictures of myself and Stephen on his blog
Joe Lensmen told me to deal with it
Alec told me that Mike South demanded an appology for my actions
I appoligized to everyone but that ASSHOLE

He attacked me at work and on his blog because I backed Alec

I consider him one level below Lawrence Connor as per his revelance to this industry and his conduct as a professional

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

I'm confused, can someone explain what is going on here but please give me the Readers Digest Version.

[Loch]

I'm confused, can someone explain what is going on here but please give me the Readers Digest Version.

Hearsay, assumptions and greed

Short enough?

[Vendzilla]

I'm confused, can someone explain what is going on here but please give me the Readers Digest Version.

Mike South is being an asshole again with his blog

[HELMY]

So, someone that was assigned by the Justice Dept to shut down all porn sites would be eligible because it would be relevant?

XBIZ.net is for business, not law enforcement.

Good one Lloyd.

[Quentin]

I'm confused, can someone explain what is going on here but please give me the Readers Digest Version.

Mike South (among others) asserts that Helmy is a secret supporter of .XXX, and is pushing Lawley's agenda in sub rosa fashion.

Helmy begs to differ.

Some in the industry see this is an utterly irrelevant question.

Others think that if it is true, it makes Helmy a "traitor to the industry" and/or a gaping asshole.

Some people point to ICM's offer to kick some of the $$ from .XXX registrations to child protection groups like ASACP (of which Helmy is the founder) smacks of "buying off" Helmy.

Others are just here enjoying the show, and haven't the foggiest idea wtf any of this is about... which won't stop them from posting statements that imply they have definitive knowledge, while still avoiding the presentation of any actual evidence in support of their claim of knowledge.

baddog (I think) is merely holding Helmy to his usual exacting BLUS (or "Baddog Linguistic Usage Standards")

I'm not sure Readers Digest would allow all of those terms to be used in their publication, but other than that, I think I've supplied what you are looking for.

[HELMY]

I was going to just say bullshit 4 times but decided not to.

Most people who are into shady things go out of their way to disconnect themselves from them and hide behind laws and corporate structure to claim they don't really own it. Not saying this is the case here, but YOU LOOK GUILTY AS HELL. Your organization gets paid but you don't. Right. My offshore shell corp makes all of my money and I live below the poverty line so I don't pay taxes so I know your song and dance. Nice try. May work with the simpletons but not with the rest.

That post of Mikes he says something that rings true. "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...it's a duck." The question then becomes, why do you walk and quack like a duck if you're not a duck?

Don't be lazy, go out there and UNCOVER THE TRUTH.

[JFK]

Don't be lazy, go out there and UNCOVER THE TRUTH.

The Truth is Out There

[fris]

helmy what happen to gigacash

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

Mike South (among others) asserts that Helmy is a secret supporter of .XXX, and is pushing Lawley's agenda in sub rosa fashion.

Helmy begs to differ.

Some in the industry see this is an utterly irrelevant question.

Others think that if it is true, it makes Helmy a "traitor to the industry" and/or a gaping asshole.

Some people point to ICM's offer to kick some of the $$ from .XXX registrations to child protection groups like ASACP (of which Helmy is the founder) smacks of "buying off" Helmy.

Others are just here enjoying the show, and haven't the foggiest idea wtf any of this is about... which won't stop them from posting statements that imply they have definitive knowledge, while still avoiding the presentation of any actual evidence in support of their claim of knowledge.

baddog (I think) is merely holding Helmy to his usual exacting BLUS (or "Baddog Linguistic Usage Standards")

I'm not sure Readers Digest would allow all of those terms to be used in their publication, but other than that, I think I've supplied what you are looking for.

Do you write for Readers Digest, because if you don't, you should.

[tony286]

Mike South has had a hard-on for Alec Helmy for years over .xxx and the Xbiz awards. He came after me and Stephen over it because Stephen worked for him and I was a moderator at XBiz.com. Then when his whining didn't get him anywhere, he dragged it over to GFY while I was the new guy working at Playboy.
He posted pictures of myself and Stephen on his blog
Joe Lensmen told me to deal with it
Alec told me that Mike South demanded an appology for my actions
I appoligized to everyone but that ASSHOLE

He attacked me at work and on his blog because I backed Alec

I consider him one level below Lawrence Connor as per his revelance to this industry and his conduct as a professional

How many AVN's you got? Mikes got two last time I recall.

[GonZo]

Too bad.

Joan or Tim can answer that question.

Fuck Joan or Tim. I asked you Alec.
Joan doesnt say jack shit that isnt prewritten and approved by lawyers.
Ive known you for well over 10 years.
How about a direct answer instead of a pansy tap dance?

[crazytrini85]

Mike South has had a hard-on for Alec Helmy for years over .xxx and the Xbiz awards. He came after me and Stephen over it because Stephen worked for him and I was a moderator at XBiz.com. Then when his whining didn't get him anywhere, he dragged it over to GFY while I was the new guy working at Playboy.
He posted pictures of myself and Stephen on his blog
Joe Lensmen told me to deal with it
Alec told me that Mike South demanded an appology for my actions
I appoligized to everyone but that ASSHOLE

He attacked me at work and on his blog because I backed Alec

I consider him one level below Lawrence Connor as per his revelance to this industry and his conduct as a professional

I remember that. You sent him photos of you holding a gun and was trying to scare him into shutting up. He posted the pics on his blog and you went nuts.

Don't be lazy, go out there and UNCOVER THE TRUTH.

The truth is, you're all ducks.

[HELMY]

Fuck Joan or Tim. I asked you Alec.
Joan doesnt say jack shit that isnt prewritten and approved by lawyers.
Ive known you for well over 10 years.
How about a direct answer instead of a pansy tap dance?

Lawyers for a simple question like that?

If you weren't acting clueless and classless, I'd actually drop them an email and obtain the answer for you.

[LAJ]

I remember that. You sent him photos of you holding a gun and was trying to scare him into shutting up. He posted the pics on his blog and you went nuts.

PLEASE tell me you are kidding?

[GonZo]

Lawyers for a simple question like that?

If you weren't acting clueless and classless, I'd actually drop them an email and obtain the answer for you.

If it was so simple then why didnt you just do that the first time I asked?

[JFK]

Mike South (among others) asserts that Helmy is a secret supporter of .XXX, and is pushing Lawley's agenda in sub rosa fashion.

Helmy begs to differ.

Some in the industry see this is an utterly irrelevant question.

Others think that if it is true, it makes Helmy a "traitor to the industry" and/or a gaping asshole.

Some people point to ICM's offer to kick some of the $$ from .XXX registrations to child protection groups like ASACP (of which Helmy is the founder) smacks of "buying off" Helmy.

Others are just here enjoying the show, and haven't the foggiest idea wtf any of this is about... which won't stop them from posting statements that imply they have definitive knowledge, while still avoiding the presentation of any actual evidence in support of their claim of knowledge.

baddog (I think) is merely holding Helmy to his usual exacting BLUS (or "Baddog Linguistic Usage Standards")

I'm not sure Readers Digest would allow all of those terms to be used in their publication, but other than that, I think I've supplied what you are looking for.

Love the Qism's BLUS

[Vendzilla]

How many AVN's you got? Mikes got two last time I recall.

And he's banned from how many boards? He's just a bitter asshole

I remember that. You sent him photos of you holding a gun and was trying to scare him into shutting up. He posted the pics on his blog and you went nuts.
.

I never sent them to him, he hotlinked them from the XBiz board, then dragged it to GFY, my place of employment, FUCK THAT ASSHOLE

[Vendzilla]

PLEASE tell me you are kidding?

He has it wrong, Mike South took a picture I posted of me on XBiz and hotlinked it to his blog, I took it down by removing it from XBiz, then he got pissy and dragged the BullShit to GFY, my place of employment, I was a moderator here at the time.

How would you like to be attacked at work for the revenge of some bitch like that?

He's banned from GFY I see, probably for pulling the same shit

[LAJ]

He has it wrong, Mike South took a picture I posted of me on XBiz and hotlinked it to his blog, I took it down by removing it from XBiz, then he got pissy and dragged the BullShit to GFY, my place of employment, I was a moderator here at the time.

How would you like to be attacked at work for the revenge of some bitch like that?

He's banned from GFY I see, probably for pulling the same shit

I've been repeatedly stalked over the years, threatened with violence, had my family threatened and dealt with lawsuits both real and threats. Since Mike can't speak for himself here, regardless of who attacked who... that whole situation to me just smacks of ridiculous.

[2MuchMark]

So, someone that was assigned by the Justice Dept to shut down all porn sites would be eligible because it would be relevant?

I would never speak for Helmy on this one, but I would probably say Yes. Even though this person would be the anti-christ, what he would be doing and saying would still be relevant because it affects us and our industry.

[Connor]

I would never speak for Helmy on this one, but I would probably say Yes. Even though this person would be the anti-christ, what he would be doing and saying would still be relevant because it affects us and our industry.

Nice "Xbiz Award" pic in your avatar. ;)

[Vendzilla]

I've been repeatedly stalked over the years, threatened with violence, had my family threatened and dealt with lawsuits both real and threats. Since Mike can't speak for himself here, regardless of who attacked who... that whole situation to me just smacks of ridiculous.

He can contact me anytime he wants. See sig for email address
I'm sure he will post crap about me on his blog where I have no voice like he did before, so don't make this out like he has no voice, he's just an asshole with the only venue of attacking me or anyone else is his blog. He got himself banned from GFY
When he brought it to my place of employment, that was over the line.

[Connor]

Love the Qism's BLUS

Q rules, plain and simple.

[Quentin]

I'm just disappointed that I still haven't received any pre-registrations for my proposed sTLD, .GiveQMoney.

It's an opportunity for responsible members of the industry to signal their sincere intent.... to give me money.

Don't hesitate webmasters! You wouldn't want your brand's .GiveQMoney domains to be snatched up by some speculator, or even worse, your competition, would you?

$60 for .XXX domains is outrageous. That's why I've reduced the price on .GiveQMoney domains to a low, low $59.97 -- unlike ICM, I listen when my sponsoring community speaks.

One of these days, I'll get around to actually filing an application with ICANN for this sTLD. First though, I have to build up my war chest to retain attorneys, save up for eventual IP disputes, buy myself property in the Caymans, and other worthy causes that benefit YOU, the webmaster.

C'mon guys -- .GiveQMoney was created (well, "conceptualized," if you want to be picky about it) with YOU in mind. Don't let this valuable opportunity pass you by!!!

[TMM_John]

I'm just disappointed that I still haven't received any pre-registrations for my proposed sTLD, .GiveQMoney.

It's an opportunity for responsible members of the industry to signal their sincere intent.... to give me money.

Don't hesitate webmasters! You wouldn't want your brand's .GiveQMoney domains to be snatched up by some speculator, or even worse, your competition, would you?

$60 for .XXX domains is outrageous. That's why I've reduced the price on .GiveQMoney domains to a low, low $59.97 -- unlike ICM, I listen when my sponsoring community speaks.

One of these days, I'll get around to actually filing an application with ICANN for this sTLD. First though, I have to build up my war chest to retain attorneys, save up for eventual IP disputes, buy myself property in the Caymans, and other worthy causes that benefit YOU, the webmaster.

C'mon guys -- .GiveQMoney was created (well, "conceptualized," if you want to be picky about it) with YOU in mind. Don't let this valuable opportunity pass you by!!!

I'd buy a .GiveQMoney... several actually.

[Nikki_Licks]

I'm just disappointed that I still haven't received any pre-registrations for my proposed sTLD, .GiveQMoney.

It's an opportunity for responsible members of the industry to signal their sincere intent.... to give me money.

Don't hesitate webmasters! You wouldn't want your brand's .GiveQMoney domains to be snatched up by some speculator, or even worse, your competition, would you?

$60 for .XXX domains is outrageous. That's why I've reduced the price on .GiveQMoney domains to a low, low $59.97 -- unlike ICM, I listen when my sponsoring community speaks.

One of these days, I'll get around to actually filing an application with ICANN for this sTLD. First though, I have to build up my war chest to retain attorneys, save up for eventual IP disputes, buy myself property in the Caymans, and other worthy causes that benefit YOU, the webmaster.

C'mon guys -- .GiveQMoney was created (well, "conceptualized," if you want to be picky about it) with YOU in mind. Don't let this valuable opportunity pass you by!!!

60.00 for a domain is nothing more than MONETARY RAPE!

[Quentin]

I'd buy a .GiveQMoney... several actually.

Sweet! At this rate, I'll have that Cayman beach hou -- uh, I mean "strategically located international administrative office" -- in no time!

TooMuchMedia.GiveQMoney has a real ring to it, doesn't it? Maybe not the best key-in domain ever conceived, but still....

[HELMY]

If it was so simple then why didnt you just do that the first time I asked?

Because your question is irrelevant to the central topic of this thread.

[HELMY]

Mike South (among others) asserts that Helmy is a secret supporter of .XXX, and is pushing Lawley's agenda in sub rosa fashion.

Helmy begs to differ.

Some in the industry see this is an utterly irrelevant question.

Others think that if it is true, it makes Helmy a "traitor to the industry" and/or a gaping asshole.

Some people point to ICM's offer to kick some of the $$ from .XXX registrations to child protection groups like ASACP (of which Helmy is the founder) smacks of "buying off" Helmy.

Others are just here enjoying the show, and haven't the foggiest idea wtf any of this is about... which won't stop them from posting statements that imply they have definitive knowledge, while still avoiding the presentation of any actual evidence in support of their claim of knowledge.

baddog (I think) is merely holding Helmy to his usual exacting BLUS (or "Baddog Linguistic Usage Standards")

I'm not sure Readers Digest would allow all of those terms to be used in their publication, but other than that, I think I've supplied what you are looking for.

Bravo

[Quentin]

60.00 for a domain is nothing more than MONETARY RAPE!

Exactly! Which is why my price is .05% lower.

I'm both shrewd and generous like that.

[Chosen]

Very interesting story.

Indeed

[Nikki_Licks]

Exactly! Which is why my price is .05% lower.

I'm both shrewd and generous like that.