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  • billywatson
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    • Aug 2002
    • 3281

    #1

    Are sites like VSex The Only REAL Way to Combat Piracy?

    Or, is that business model just the future of our biz?

    I Shoot Porn.
  • pornstar2fag
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jan 2005
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    #2
    that is a great idea. who owns that?

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    • PornNewz
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      • Jul 2008
      • 851

      #3
      Originally posted by pornstar2fag
      that is a great idea. who owns that?
      I heard it was a professor from MIT.
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      • smutguy
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        • Oct 2006
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        #4
        i have been helping them with beta testing

        i'm 1:400 raw with tube traffic

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        • K R I S T E N
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          • Feb 2005
          • 2438

          #5
          Originally posted by PornNewz
          I heard it was a professor from MIT.
          Me too ... the brains!
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          • alias
            aliasx
            • Apr 2001
            • 19010

            #6
            Looks cool, about time. Some cam sites have similar already but not pushing the angle as hard.
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            • PornNewz
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              • Jul 2008
              • 851

              #7
              Originally posted by alias
              Looks cool, about time. Some cam sites have similar already but not pushing the angle as hard.
              Do you have any links to anyone else doing this type of thing? would like to check it out.

              Thanks
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              • alias
                aliasx
                • Apr 2001
                • 19010

                #8
                Originally posted by PornNewz
                Do you have any links to anyone else doing this type of thing? would like to check it out.

                Thanks
                http://www.sakuralive.com/ has vibrator control functions, have never checked it out but have seen it on banners and performer profiles.

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                Last edited by alias; 08-12-2010, 01:33 PM.
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                • PornNewz
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 851

                  #9
                  Originally posted by alias
                  http://www.sakuralive.com/ has vibrator control functions, have never checked it out but have seen it on banners and performer profiles.

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                  Great, thanks! just breezed thru there and didn't see anything about dildo controls but i'll keep looking.
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                  • alias
                    aliasx
                    • Apr 2001
                    • 19010

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PornNewz
                    Great, thanks! just breezed thru there and didn't see anything about dildo controls but i'll keep looking.
                    I'll ask my AM tomorrow.
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                    • pornlaw
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                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1902

                      #11
                      Its good but when the model can control getting the guy off.... now thats the future of the biz. Electronic prostitution.
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                      • billywatson
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                        • Aug 2002
                        • 3281

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pornlaw
                        Its good but when the model can control getting the guy off.... now thats the future of the biz. Electronic prostitution.
                        Is there such a thing as virtual pandering?

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                        • Randy West
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 1079

                          #13
                          iFriends had this shit years ago. They called it cyberdildonics
                          MSNBC article from 1999: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3078776

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                          • lagcam
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                            • Jul 2007
                            • 2890

                            #14
                            I have also seen this on another site a few years ago...... can't recall the name of the site but it must have been 6 years ago.
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                            • PornNewz
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                              • Jul 2008
                              • 851

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Randy West
                              iFriends had this shit years ago. They called it cyberdildonics
                              MSNBC article from 1999: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3078776
                              Yeah, I read that. It never took off.
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                              • pornlaw
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                                • Feb 2007
                                • 1902

                                #16
                                Originally posted by billywatson
                                Is there such a thing as virtual pandering?
                                From a legal perspective - yes. Would it ever been enforced - highly unlikely.

                                I know of 2 companies that are still in the testing stages of such a device.
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                                • pornguy
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 62910

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pornlaw
                                  From a legal perspective - yes. Would it ever been enforced - highly unlikely.

                                  I know of 2 companies that are still in the testing stages of such a device.
                                  Biggest issue here would be more of the cost than anything else. It would also be a liimited market at first but expansion on getting the device to the customer might be the biggest issue.
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                                  • stever
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                                    • Jul 2005
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                                    #18
                                    who runs vsex.com ? is it a big name company?


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                                    • sworld
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                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 512

                                      #19
                                      Great Idea!

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                                      • Naechy
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                                        • Sep 2007
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                                        #20
                                        really interesting, i like it
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                                        • Roald
                                          SecretFriends.com
                                          • May 2001
                                          • 27910

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pornlaw
                                          Its good but when the model can control getting the guy off.... now thats the future of the biz. Electronic prostitution.
                                          lmk whos selling that, I would be very interested in throwing some traffic to that lol

                                          Perhaps a reall-touch connected to a live cam/chat model....


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                                          • Caligari
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                                            • Oct 2009
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Roald
                                            lmk whos selling that, I would be very interested in throwing some traffic to that lol

                                            Perhaps a reall-touch connected to a live cam/chat model....
                                            yes, if you had a real touch device and you were able to control the sex machine to fuck the girl you would have the connection of the decade.

                                            i wonder if it would work if you were controlling the sex machine with your mouse while using the real touch so you are feeling the motion while you are moving the machine with your mouse?

                                            a live interface like that would be incredible.
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                                            • Yo Adrian
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                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 6326

                                              #23
                                              Cheat without Cheating, that's brilliant
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                                              • Brent 3dSexCash
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                                                • Sep 2007
                                                • 1064

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Caligari
                                                yes, if you had a real touch device and you were able to control the sex machine to fuck the girl you would have the connection of the decade.

                                                i wonder if it would work if you were controlling the sex machine with your mouse while using the real touch so you are feeling the motion while you are moving the machine with your mouse?

                                                a live interface like that would be incredible.

                                                Our device works on both ends.

                                                When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

                                                We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

                                                http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

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                                                • HighlyIntoxicated
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                                                  • Dec 2009
                                                  • 542

                                                  #25
                                                  just registered for vsex, hopefully i get accepted!

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                                                  • Sharky
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                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 4938

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Brent 3dSexCash
                                                    Our device works on both ends.

                                                    When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

                                                    We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

                                                    http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

                                                    Hit me up!

                                                    This is Genius. Creating an attachment for the Fleshlight was a smart move. A standalone product wouldn't sell as well, but being able to market this to the Million+ buyers of fleshlight is awesome.
                                                    Sharky

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                                                    • PornNewz
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2008
                                                      • 851

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Brent 3dSexCash
                                                      Our device works on both ends.

                                                      When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

                                                      We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

                                                      http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

                                                      Hit me up!
                                                      That's a good idea as well. when do you go live?
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                                                      • alias
                                                        aliasx
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 19010

                                                        #28
                                                        Testing this now.
                                                        Last edited by alias; 08-13-2010, 03:24 PM.
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                                                        • PornNewz
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                                                          • Jul 2008
                                                          • 851

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Brent 3dSexCash
                                                          Our device works on both ends.

                                                          When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

                                                          We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

                                                          http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

                                                          Hit me up!
                                                          without seeing it working......
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                                                          • FreeHugeMovies
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                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 14142

                                                            #30
                                                            Real touch will have this.

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                                                            • Hotrocket
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                                                              • May 2004
                                                              • 1327

                                                              #31
                                                              Some version of this concept will be huge in the future...I think sky is the limit for the right combo of software and device. If you think peeps will bust the bank just for cam shows..imagine what they will shell out to get virtually fucked by their fave cam girl...


                                                              If anyone is interested, I have an excellent domain for sale that would be perfect for a cam/chat/virtual sex device site:

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                                                              • sitesurfer70
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                                                                • Aug 2008
                                                                • 331

                                                                #32
                                                                I think Imlive used to have this to...is call the Stinulator or soemthing..

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                                                                • Raf1
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                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 12117

                                                                  #33
                                                                  good to see people working hard to get the biz moving in the right direction.
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                                                                  • hypedough
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                                                                    • Sep 2007
                                                                    • 3743

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Won't the girl get really sore and tired after say, a guy goes in for a really long show? Or what about those guys who come in for a quick minute, the girls would be sore by the time they made decent enough money. Solid idea hopefully they invest in some numbing lotion for their nether regions.

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                                                                    • Adraco
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                                                                      • May 2009
                                                                      • 3745

                                                                      #35
                                                                      With Vsex the customer has to pay a minimum of 5 minutes at $7 per minute for the one controlling the strokes.

                                                                      Then a limitless number of people can watch, as voyageurs, at $2.50 per minute I think it was. New peeps would probably want to watch some first, before trying themselves at $7 per minute. And there's a toplist, the model will rate each "fucker" of how good they were and the top ones will get their nickname on the front page for fame and glory - will surely be good for their ego and competition!

                                                                      So say a girl can at maximum do 8 shows of 5 minute each per hour, with 4 people watching each show.
                                                                      That is 5 minutes x $7 per minute = $35 per 5 min session for the stroker
                                                                      plus 4 watchers watching 5 minutes each at $2.50 = 4 x 5 x 2.5 = $50
                                                                      So per 5 minute show, you cram out $85

                                                                      If you can do 8 shows of 5 minute each per hour, allowing for some rest and downtime, you have 8 x 85 = $680 per hour!

                                                                      Affiliates get a 20% life time cut, so that is $136 per one hour of "full schedule".
                                                                      Leaves $544 for Vsex. I have no clue what models are paid, but I would guess they get around 40-50 % of that $544.

                                                                      Sure makes for a very interesting calculation!
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                                                                      • AtlantisCash
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                                                                        • Dec 2005
                                                                        • 3179

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by hypedough
                                                                        Won't the girl get really sore and tired after say, a guy goes in for a really long show? Or what about those guys who come in for a quick minute, the girls would be sore by the time they made decent enough money. Solid idea hopefully they invest in some numbing lotion for their nether regions.




                                                                        i was thinkin something similar, i like when the industry moves.

                                                                        i hope this time we all learn from our mistakes and everything goes good
                                                                        Last edited by AtlantisCash; 08-14-2010, 03:07 AM.
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                                                                        • Barry-xlovecam
                                                                          It's 42
                                                                          • Jun 2010
                                                                          • 18083

                                                                          #37
                                                                          New twist on an old idea.

                                                                          A USB pussy and USB dildo that had a software interface would be interesting.

                                                                          This virtual stimulation over IP has been tried in the past ? no one has made use of it as a predominant feature.

                                                                          Like 3D, a lot of talk. 3D has caught on then faded away since the 1950's. Its latest incarnation is what we are seeing. Will it last this time ? good question.

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                                                                          • Brent 3dSexCash
                                                                            Octopus Anime
                                                                            • Sep 2007
                                                                            • 1064

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by PornNewz
                                                                            without seeing it working......
                                                                            It is actually already live on webcamclub and I would be happy to show you or anyone else a demo there or off that site. It should be available to deploy to all other cam sites this month.

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                                                                            • Brent 3dSexCash
                                                                              Octopus Anime
                                                                              • Sep 2007
                                                                              • 1064

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                              New twist on an old idea.

                                                                              A USB pussy and USB dildo that had a software interface would be interesting.

                                                                              This virtual stimulation over IP has been tried in the past ? no one has made use of it as a predominant feature.

                                                                              Like 3D, a lot of talk. 3D has caught on then faded away since the 1950's. Its latest incarnation is what we are seeing. Will it last this time ? good question.
                                                                              You are exactly right

                                                                              This is what we have with the Vstroker. It is an adapter that fits over the Fleshlight and hooks up to USB. How the user screws the toy, directs the content on the screen.

                                                                              It works with videos, adult games and cams.

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                                                                              • PornNewz
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2008
                                                                                • 851

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Brent 3dSexCash
                                                                                Our device works on both ends.

                                                                                When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

                                                                                We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

                                                                                http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

                                                                                Hit me up!
                                                                                So the Diltron will move on the models side when the customers fleshlight moves on his side?
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                                                                                • Half man, Half Amazing
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2008
                                                                                  • 372

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  We are helping Vsex.com with beta this past week. Only sent straight up tube traffic using a banner and are doing 1:27 on free signups and from counting raw banner click straight to sales 1:261. Not keyword targeting either. That's not half, but full amazing!
                                                                                  Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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                                                                                  • FlexxAeon
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                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 3765

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by sitesurfer70
                                                                                    I think Imlive used to have this to...is call the Stinulator or soemthing..
                                                                                    Yep, Sinulator. I used to always ask wtf happened to it. Never understood why people didn't jump all over it back then.
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                                                                                    • Brent 3dSexCash
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                                                                                      • Sep 2007
                                                                                      • 1064

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by PornNewz
                                                                                      So the Diltron will move on the models side when the customers fleshlight moves on his side?

                                                                                      You got it exactly right.

                                                                                      They can use the Fleshlight to control the Diltron or just use their mouse.

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                                                                                      • chronig
                                                                                        Registered User
                                                                                        • Oct 2009
                                                                                        • 2653

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Brent 3dSexCash
                                                                                        Our device works on both ends.

                                                                                        When the guy screws the Fleshlight hooked up to the Vstroker Adapter the mechanic dildo (http://vstroker.com/Diltron.JPG) on the other end goes into the web cam model. We are currently setting it up with Webcamclub but are looking for other Cams sites to test it on.

                                                                                        We can set it up so the Fleshlight controls the Diltron, the mouse controls the Diltron or the toy activates a gauge on the models screen for role playing.

                                                                                        http://vstroker.com/images/VstrokerCamSystem.pdf

                                                                                        Hit me up!
                                                                                        I had this idea about 3 years ago while smoking up in my old apartment but didn't have any feasible way of developing it.. and my name is also Brent... weird... but congrats

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                                                                                        • pornstar2fag
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                          • 544

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          i'm never sticking my cock in a machine.

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                                                                                          • Brent 3dSexCash
                                                                                            Octopus Anime
                                                                                            • Sep 2007
                                                                                            • 1064

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by pornstar2fag
                                                                                            i'm never sticking my cock in a machine.

                                                                                            lol

                                                                                            Version 2 of our hardware, which should be released next month, will actually be completely wireless.

                                                                                            I do agree that sticking your penis into something concealed, that is hook up to an electric socket, isn't that appealing.

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                                                                                            • Brent 3dSexCash
                                                                                              Octopus Anime
                                                                                              • Sep 2007
                                                                                              • 1064

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by chronig
                                                                                              I had this idea about 3 years ago while smoking up in my old apartment but didn't have any feasible way of developing it.. and my name is also Brent... weird... but congrats
                                                                                              Funny. This journey was actually started seven years ago... The timing seems right now.

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                                                                                              • chronig
                                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                                • Oct 2009
                                                                                                • 2653

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Brent 3dSexCash
                                                                                                Funny. This journey was actually started seven years ago... The timing seems right now.
                                                                                                Timing seems perfect... considering piracy plays a huge part in the current state of the industry... revolutionize the one part of it that can't completely be pirated - cams...

                                                                                                I hope it takes off... I live in a city that is a watering hole for cam studios (Medellin, Colombia)... I'd definitely look back into starting one up!

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                                                                                                • chronig
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2009
                                                                                                  • 2653

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  The links in your sig are broken btw...

                                                                                                  parsed as: http://%3Cfont%20color%3D%22silver%2...com%3C/font%3E

                                                                                                  etc.... in google chrome anyway

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                                                                                                  • Half man, Half Amazing
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                                                                                                    • Feb 2008
                                                                                                    • 372

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Brent 3dSexCash
                                                                                                    You got it exactly right.

                                                                                                    They can use the Fleshlight to control the Diltron or just use their mouse.
                                                                                                    Looking at that pic of the diltron, i'm not getting it, it's not stablized in any way, it just lays there. and the hook used to connect it, well that will cause a whole lot of jerking around. Is that your final version?
                                                                                                    Is this gonna get ugly, now? Huh? I hope not. Because I thought what we were here, racial differences notwithstanding, was just a couple of old friends. You know, just both of us Californians.

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