Finally a Tube site that isn't really a Tube site. (Thoughts?)

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  • Semi-Retired-Dave
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Apr 2004
    • 11190

    #1

    Finally a Tube site that isn't really a Tube site. (Thoughts?)

    As you all know, I am against Tube Sites. So even though it's a Tube Site Script, and it says tube site. It's really an Exclusive Video Site. All videos are One Minute Clips. All content is ours either shot in house or bought.

    CyberAgeModels.com

    Still a couple bugs, but overall seems to be working pretty good. Programmers are now working on an affiliate program for it if anyone thinks it's worth sending traffic to for PPS or Revshare.

    We may need to play around with the membership prices, but with barely any traffic we are seeing a few sales trickle in.

    I want to publicly thank Mechanical Bunny Media and Zuzana Designs for their awesome team work and making things work and look the way I envisioned.

    We are still in Beta and testing conversions.

    Do you think it will work?

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  • Sly
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    • Sep 2004
    • 31376

    #2
    So a pay tube?
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    • Semi-Retired-Dave
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      • Apr 2004
      • 11190

      #3
      Originally posted by Sly
      So a pay tube?
      Sure, that's a good name for it.
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      • tony286
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        • Aug 2002
        • 57021

        #4
        best of luck

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        • Allison
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          • Jul 2001
          • 2068

          #5
          Makes sense. I think the tube look is something that users like both visually and for navigation purposes.
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          • Semi-Retired-Dave
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            • Apr 2004
            • 11190

            #6
            Originally posted by Allison
            Makes sense. I think the tube look is something that users like both visually and for navigation purposes.
            Thanks, I agree.
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            • Godsmack
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              • Apr 2004
              • 4525

              #7
              It is very nice indeed! but you might wanna check the aspect ratio of your thumbs.
              And yes, you are in good hands Konrad

              I am working on a pay tube as well, jizzster.com , still in the process of adding more content and tweaking..good luck with the project, looks great.
              Last edited by Godsmack; 09-21-2010, 08:53 AM.
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              • Stephen
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                • Feb 2003
                • 1771

                #8
                nice site Dave -- good luck with it!

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                • HomerSimpson
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                  • Sep 2005
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                  #9
                  looks good!
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                  • a2000
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                    • Mar 2002
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                    #10
                    Nice work, even better than stxtube idea
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                    • LeRoy
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                      • Jul 2007
                      • 13364

                      #11
                      The Mechanical Bunny Media Tube Script and Zuzana Designs combo rocks!!

                      Nice site CyberAge-Dave
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                      • Semi-Retired-Dave
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 11190

                        #12
                        Thanks everyone for the Positive Feedback.

                        Do you think I should make it a flat membership price of $9.95 per month or even $14.95 a month?
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                        • Shap
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                          • May 2001
                          • 8313

                          #13
                          Looks good.

                          First comment I really think you need to get over your hardon for tubes. From the perspective of someone who doesn't know you and never met you I don't know how you think the posts come off but imo a lot of your tube posts make you sound like a big crybaby that keeps repeating the same thing over and over. No offense just being honest. I know I come off like a prick asshole retarded douchebag in my posts. I'm just giving you feedback.

                          The site looks good. The videos seem off. Is it encoding to size? I felt the videos seemed to be cutting off heads and the edges. If the raws look like that my bad. Just seems like it may be an issue.

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                          • DiF0r
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                            • Apr 2007
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                            #14
                            looks nice good luck
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                            • Scott McD
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 67798

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sly
                              So a pay tube?
                              And that's the part when most surfers will say "pay wtf, i'll use a no-pay tube instead".




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                              • Tom_PM
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                                • Feb 2005
                                • 16443

                                #16
                                Surfers will be confused as to why livejasmin consoles dont pop when they click, why there's no fully flash animated video ads almost crashing their system, and why they dont get sent on a joyride every second time they click.

                                Half jokingly of course, but they will know something is different pretty quickly. I hope it works out well, good luck.
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                                • candyflip
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                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 43069

                                  #17
                                  How's it converting so far in testing?

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                                  • Agent 488
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                                    • Feb 2006
                                    • 22511

                                    #18
                                    drop the age verification page no one cares any more.

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                                    • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Apr 2004
                                      • 11190

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Shap
                                      Looks good.

                                      First comment I really think you need to get over your hardon for tubes. From the perspective of someone who doesn't know you and never met you I don't know how you think the posts come off but imo a lot of your tube posts make you sound like a big crybaby that keeps repeating the same thing over and over. No offense just being honest. I know I come off like a prick asshole retarded douchebag in my posts. I'm just giving you feedback.

                                      The site looks good. The videos seem off. Is it encoding to size? I felt the videos seemed to be cutting off heads and the edges. If the raws look like that my bad. Just seems like it may be an issue.
                                      Thanks Shap, I do appreciate the Honesty, but seriously, take a deep breath and look around you. Look at your offices, look at your house, look at your lifestyle and look at the life you will be giving your kids. Is the income coming from your Tube sites? I didn't think so.

                                      I can understand your point, I really can. But for someone like you that spends top dollars on Exclusive content like we do and to see people shy away from it because they can get something similar stolen on a tube site is just straight out disappointing. Just because Michael bay decides he isn't going to screen his movies in theaters any more and is going to give them out for free doesn't mean Steven Spielberg is going to follow him.

                                      More power to you and your free tubes, you are only taking away from your own source.

                                      I'll check on the Video issues, what browser are you on and a PC or Mac?

                                      Thanks
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                                      • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                        • Apr 2004
                                        • 11190

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by candyflip
                                        How's it converting so far in testing?
                                        I'm around 1:9000 with feeder traffic, but a few sales on Cams Site as well. Still too early to tell.
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                                        • Agent 488
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                                          • Feb 2006
                                          • 22511

                                          #21
                                          looks good, pretty slick.

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                                          • Wilsy
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                                            • Oct 2009
                                            • 1865

                                            #22
                                            Nice Site!
                                            This is how the tube model should be adopted for paysites.
                                            Last edited by Wilsy; 09-21-2010, 09:37 AM.
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                                            • Jman
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                                              • Sep 2003
                                              • 22837

                                              #23
                                              Looks great, I like the fact you put full lenght of video in the info of thumb and when surfer clicks it's only 0.59 and you push the upgrade.

                                              Great site and best of luck with it Dave ;)
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                                              • Agent 488
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                                                • Feb 2006
                                                • 22511

                                                #24
                                                one weird thing is that on the index it has the full length video time, and when you click through it is only a minute with the full video with upgrade. i think most surfers expect to see the video length promised.

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                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                  • 11190

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                  looks good, pretty slick.
                                                  Originally posted by andrew.r
                                                  Nice Site!
                                                  This is how the tube model should be adopted for paysites.
                                                  Thanks, this is the way it should have been started I think.

                                                  Originally posted by Jean-Francois
                                                  Looks great, I like the fact you put full lenght of video in the info of thumb and when surfer clicks it's only 0.59 and you push the upgrade.

                                                  Great site and best of luck with it Dave ;)
                                                  Thanks buddy.

                                                  Originally posted by Agent 488
                                                  one weird thing is that on the index it has the full length video time, and when you click through it is only a minute with the full video with upgrade. i think most surfers expect to see the video length promised.
                                                  That's when they need to upgrade. Just showing them how long the actual video is.
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                                                  • Shap
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                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 8313

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                    Thanks Shap, I do appreciate the Honesty, but seriously, take a deep breath and look around you. Look at your offices, look at your house, look at your lifestyle and look at the life you will be giving your kids. Is the income coming from your Tube sites? I didn't think so.

                                                    I can understand your point, I really can. But for someone like you that spends top dollars on Exclusive content like we do and to see people shy away from it because they can get something similar stolen on a tube site is just straight out disappointing. Just because Michael bay decides he isn't going to screen his movies in theaters any more and is going to give them out for free doesn't mean Steven Spielberg is going to follow him.

                                                    More power to you and your free tubes, you are only taking away from your own source.

                                                    I'll check on the Video issues, what browser are you on and a PC or Mac?

                                                    Thanks
                                                    I'm making 7 figures a year in profit on GayTube (I mention that to put in perspective why I'm defending the position). The straight tubes are nowhere near that. But GayTube is a big part of our business and the reason I am in the position of defending tubes. I wish as much as everyone else we went back to the old days and if I didn't have GayTube i'd probably be right next to you campaigning against them. I totally understand your point of view. I've seen a very profitable business sector (tgps) just about completely die thanks to it.

                                                    On a mac. check the raw vs what's up. If they look the same then it's how they were shot. I just noticed I felt zoomed up when watching it.
                                                    Last edited by Shap; 09-21-2010, 09:45 AM.

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                                                    • Caligari
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                                                      • Oct 2009
                                                      • 5414

                                                      #27
                                                      It's a legal tube really, which i have never had a problem with.
                                                      You're just sending all traffic into your own site instead of sending it out to other paysites.

                                                      Looks good and I think it will work well because you don't have a)annoying pop ups b)annoying malware/virus and c)annoying spam email which is generally found on illegal tubes, and most importantly its LEGAL unlike the illegal scumbag tube b.s.

                                                      Also keeping the vids to a minute is good. I don't know why some sponsors dish out 5 minute clips...way too long imo. 1-3 minutes max suffices.
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                                                      • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                        • Apr 2004
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Shap
                                                        I'm making 7 figures a year in profit on GayTube. The straight tubes are nowhere near that. But GayTube is a big part of our business and the reason I am in the position of defending tubes. I wish as much as everyone else we went back to the old days and if I didn't have GayTube i'd probably be right next to you campaigning against them. I totally understand your point of view. I've seen a very profitable business sector (tgps) just about completely die thanks to it.

                                                        On a mac. check the raw vs what's up. If they look the same then it's how they were shot. I just noticed I felt zoomed up when watching it.
                                                        Now I see why you are sticking up for them so much. There is always a reason behind everything. So why not remove the signup page from Twistys and make it a free Tube?

                                                        I have the video player default on wide screen, I think that is why you are seeing them like that. Thanks again for looking in to that.
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                                                        • 96ukssob
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 12991

                                                          #29
                                                          if it walks like a tube site, quacks like a tube site...

                                                          there is nothing wrong with these types of tube sites, i have many of my own with 30 sec to 2 min clips... but i am against the "illegal" ones with full or 10+ min clips of video
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                                                          • TheSenator
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                                                            • Feb 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Tube Sites are just the new MGP.
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                                                            • Semi-Retired-Dave
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                              • 11190

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Caligari
                                                              It's a legal tube really, which i have never had a problem with.
                                                              You're just sending all traffic into your own site instead of sending it out to other paysites.

                                                              Looks good and I think it will work well because you don't have a)annoying pop ups b)annoying malware/virus and c)annoying spam email which is generally found on illegal tubes, and most importantly its LEGAL unlike the illegal scumbag tube b.s.

                                                              Also keeping the vids to a minute is good. I don't know why some sponsors dish out 5 minute clips...way too long imo. 1-3 minutes max suffices.
                                                              Thanks Caligari

                                                              Originally posted by bossku69
                                                              if it walks like a tube site, quacks like a tube site...

                                                              there is nothing wrong with these types of tube sites, i have many of my own with 30 sec to 2 min clips... but i am against the "illegal" ones with full or 10+ min clips of video
                                                              Yup, those are the ones that kill it.
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                                                              • Shap
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                                                                • May 2001
                                                                • 8313

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                Now I see why you are sticking up for them so much. There is always a reason behind everything. So why not remove the signup page from Twistys and make it a free Tube?

                                                                I have the video player default on wide screen, I think that is why you are seeing them like that. Thanks again for looking in to that.
                                                                Yeah. It's the domain and the niche. Straight tubes are a different beast from what I've seen. GayTube makes the majority of it's money from selling memberships. I don't think very many (if any) straight tubes are in that position.

                                                                My pleasure. The join page seemed confusing to me. Very busy. I personally would remove everything except the pic and the data box and join now. I bet if you did a test that would convert better

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                                                                • Godsmack
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                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                  • 4525

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TheSenator
                                                                  Tube Sites are just the new MGP.
                                                                  Yes, but many don't realize it, they should hurry up (including me) and migrate their old style MGP to TUBE or they might miss the boat. Tubes also get more love from The Google
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                                                                  • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                                    • Apr 2004
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Godsmack
                                                                    Yes, but many don't realize it, they should hurry up (including me) and migrate their old style MGP to TUBE or they might miss the boat. Tubes also get more love from The Google
                                                                    I think it's all about the easy Navigation.
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                                                                    • Godsmack
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                                                                      • Apr 2004
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                      I think it's all about the easy Navigation.
                                                                      Yes, it is less clicks, you get to see content quicker. Also it feels comfortable since many watch YouTube.
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                                                                      • k0nr4d
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                                                                        #36
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                                                                        • stever
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                                                                          • Jul 2005
                                                                          • 1716

                                                                          #37
                                                                          let me say i have tried tube paysites and i find they do not make as many sales as paysites with less previews

                                                                          while bookmarks increase and conversion ratios might be better with this kind of layout i noticed a lot less join page hits and less signups overall

                                                                          i think it is mainly because people get lost in a sea of previews and never actually make it to the join page
                                                                          or maybe because it is not really obvious that you must join the site instead of just browsing all the scenes on it

                                                                          who knows but im not very pro tube paysites


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                                                                          • Allison
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                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                            • 2068

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                            Thanks everyone for the Positive Feedback.

                                                                            Do you think I should make it a flat membership price of $9.95 per month or even $14.95 a month?
                                                                            Our price point testing shows there are really no differences in joins when it comes to $5, it's once there is a $10 price point difference that really makes the difference, so I'd go with the higher amount.
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                                                                            • Roald
                                                                              SecretFriends.com
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 27910

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Shap
                                                                              I'm making 7 figures a year in profit on GayTube (I mention that to put in perspective why I'm defending the position). The straight tubes are nowhere near that. But GayTube is a big part of our business and the reason I am in the position of defending tubes. I wish as much as everyone else we went back to the old days and if I didn't have GayTube i'd probably be right next to you campaigning against them. I totally understand your point of view. I've seen a very profitable business sector (tgps) just about completely die thanks to it.

                                                                              On a mac. check the raw vs what's up. If they look the same then it's how they were shot. I just noticed I felt zoomed up when watching it.
                                                                              We dont have a full blown tube and i am not against them either. They rock from à surfers pov. Just the way most are done is what sucks


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                                                                              • tony286
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                                                                                • Aug 2002
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Shap teaches an important lesson find a niche your into and the money will come. J/k

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                                                                                • C H R I S
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                                                                                  • Nov 2005
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Looks good David - let me know when you want to go over your results.
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                                                                                  • Allison
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                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 2068

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by stever
                                                                                    let me say i have tried tube paysites and i find they do not make as many sales as paysites with less previews

                                                                                    while bookmarks increase and conversion ratios might be better with this kind of layout i noticed a lot less join page hits and less signups overall

                                                                                    i think it is mainly because people get lost in a sea of previews and never actually make it to the join page
                                                                                    or maybe because it is not really obvious that you must join the site instead of just browsing all the scenes on it

                                                                                    who knows but im not very pro tube paysites
                                                                                    I could agree with that as the selling point. I would think as far as member retention it might work well.
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                                                                                    • Jack Sparrow
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                                                                                      • May 2008
                                                                                      • 11420

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      This is what barefooties (and myself for that matter) have been calling "tubepaysite hybrids". Konrads script is excellent for stuff like this.

                                                                                      Im pretty sure you will love it, and your surfers will too

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                                                                                      • james_clickmemedia
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                                                                                        • Apr 2003
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Nice looking site & content.



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                                                                                        • Zuzana Designs
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                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 20896

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                          As you all know, I am against Tube Sites. So even though it's a Tube Site Script, and it says tube site. It's really an Exclusive Video Site. All videos are One Minute Clips. All content is ours either shot in house or bought.

                                                                                          CyberAgeModels.com

                                                                                          Still a couple bugs, but overall seems to be working pretty good. Programmers are now working on an affiliate program for it if anyone thinks it's worth sending traffic to for PPS or Revshare.

                                                                                          We may need to play around with the membership prices, but with barely any traffic we are seeing a few sales trickle in.

                                                                                          I want to publicly thank Mechanical Bunny Media and Zuzana Designs for their awesome team work and making things work and look the way I envisioned.

                                                                                          We are still in Beta and testing conversions.

                                                                                          Do you think it will work?

                                                                                          It was an honor working with you on this project Dave. I think it came out very nice. Thanks again for the work and I will keep in touch with you if you don?t mind to see how the conversions are. I like to try and follow up with design projects I do so I can get a feel for what layouts do well.

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                                                                                          • stever
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                                                                                            • Jul 2005
                                                                                            • 1716

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Allison
                                                                                            I could agree with that as the selling point. I would think as far as member retention it might work well.
                                                                                            so why not just make it like this on the members area and not on the tour


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                                                                                            • Ethersync
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Good luck with the site. You had a great team put it together for you.
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                                                                                              • DeanCapture
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                                                                                                #48
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                                                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                  • 11190

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Thanks everyone,

                                                                                                  I'm thinking of doing a flat rate of $9.95 a month. Do you think that may help bring in more sales?
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                                                                                                  • Jason Voorhees
                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                    • Jul 2010
                                                                                                    • 843

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by CyberAge-Dave
                                                                                                    As you all know, I am against Tube Sites. So even though it's a Tube Site Script, and it says tube site. It's really an Exclusive Video Site. All videos are One Minute Clips. All content is ours either shot in house or bought.
                                                                                                    Uhhh dude, get your head out of your ass, because no matter what you wanna think, your tube hating ass is running a mother fucking tube.

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