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Old 01-04-2019, 10:59 AM   #1
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BateUI - Chaturbate Leaderboards (and other metrics)

I am tracking the performance metrics of Chaturbates models over time and running leaderboards to decide who is the best performer (not just to most watched right now).

Each user is provided a computed BUI score with a sampling rate of 10 minutes, the site is adblock compatible as it doesn't use the iframes from Chaturbate.

Please suggest what kind of interesting metrics would be good track, currently I have:

- BUI Score
- Daily Leader (bar chart)
- Weekly Leader (bar chart)
- Weekly Visibility (per model) (tbc)
- Hourly Viewer Growth / Decline (mini line chart)
- Weekly Viewer Growth / Decline (tbc)
- Weekly Follower Growth / Decline (tbc)

Historical data is coming as history is made.

https://bateui.com/
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Old 01-04-2019, 04:08 PM   #2
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:19 AM   #3
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fendlestick, I respect that you can code creative things like this. Keep right on coming up with great ideas, turn them into reality, and make your site unique.

Not to discourage you, but be aware that there's plenty of people out there who can't code, or can't be bothered to code. Consequently, many will relentlessly scrape that info from your site, use it for their own affiliate link sites, and pretty much reap the rewards of your all your hard work.
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Old 01-05-2019, 01:55 PM   #4
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Thanks MFCT and I appreciate that feedback, it will be used. Hopefully any scrappers will use the JSON API that's coming when the dataset is large enough to make it worthwhile querying it. As the site is still working towards a minimum viable I will need to think up a creative way to make using the data legitimately appealing.

For now I have added live previews to the thumbnails, so it functions more like a porn site, hover a thumbnail and get a preview of the room. Should also help with informing the visitor if the thumb is true cos trying to find an active model doing something interesting can feel like a full time job.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:59 PM   #5
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If you don't mind asking me, where did you get the html5 (.ts) chaturbate feed links? The API offers only regular flash.. the site itself shows camrooms in Flash
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Old 01-06-2019, 08:21 AM   #6
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Quick update, coin payments has been integrated so the channels can accept auto convert cryptos from Coin Payments supported list. Channels will get paid in tokens.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:31 AM   #7
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If you don't mind asking me, where did you get the html5 (.ts) chaturbate feed links? The API offers only regular flash.. the site itself shows camrooms in Flash
Unfortunately that's one of my USP so don't wanna reveal how that works.

UPDATE: What a fun 20 days its been...

- Coin Payments has been removed
- New UI theme has been applied (materia)
- More interactions have been moved to AJAX
- Real time App tracking has been added
- Slow queries have been fixed
- More caching, so fewer calls to CB
- Public comments have been added
- Cam Spinner (shows random cams) has been added
- Top Lists have segmented for type and global lists (2 lists are now 6)

Currently the site hold performance metrics for 225k models. Got first positive feedback on twitter from an actual model (which is nice).

To lazy to scroll to top? https://bateui.com/
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Old 01-26-2019, 03:13 PM   #8
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The .ts links are a brilliant piece of coding. I doubt any other Chaturbate affiliate is doing that, or would even know where to begin.

I'm not interested in giving away your secrets. I know what you're doing. I don't know how its being done. If I set my mind to it, I could probably code something very similar. But for the foreseeable future, I'm encumbered with ongoing dB and technical optimization issues with my own code, which I will eventually figure out. And that won't be any time soon, with my hectic schedule.

The .ts links are just one great feature on a site that's packed full of brilliant coding and out-of-the-box ideas. I'm glad you're getting praise and recognition for running a site that's such a refreshing departure from the thousands of vanilla, cookie-cutter white labels out there. IMHO, you deserve more praise & recognition than you're getting.

Keep right on doing what you're doing, and making your site even better. I doubt any of us will ever catch up with you.
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Old 01-27-2019, 03:00 AM   #9
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Unfortunately that's one of my USP so don't wanna reveal how that works.
I didn't wanted for you to reveal it, I thought they do offer that via a new beta API or something. I would be more concerned if they allow it at all in the first place, so you don't get your Chaturbate affiliate account banned or something.

Btw your site throws a DB error at the moment.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:56 PM   #10
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The .ts links are a brilliant piece of coding. I doubt any other Chaturbate affiliate is doing that, or would even know where to begin.

I'm not interested in giving away your secrets. I know what you're doing. I don't know how its being done. If I set my mind to it, I could probably code something very similar. But for the foreseeable future, I'm encumbered with ongoing dB and technical optimization issues with my own code, which I will eventually figure out. And that won't be any time soon, with my hectic schedule.

The .ts links are just one great feature on a site that's packed full of brilliant coding and out-of-the-box ideas. I'm glad you're getting praise and recognition for running a site that's such a refreshing departure from the thousands of vanilla, cookie-cutter white labels out there. IMHO, you deserve more praise & recognition than you're getting.

Keep right on doing what you're doing, and making your site even better. I doubt any of us will ever catch up with you.
Thanks for that, odd you should say about the technical DB optimisation that is / was a real challenge and broke the site in various and magical ways I didn't expect. DB performance has now been improved but I have a sinking feeling that it may still fall over under load.
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Old 01-28-2019, 04:08 PM   #11
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I didn't wanted for you to reveal it, I thought they do offer that via a new beta API or something. I would be more concerned if they allow it at all in the first place, so you don't get your Chaturbate affiliate account banned or something.

Btw your site throws a DB error at the moment.
Thanks for the feedback, the site was screwed over the weekend and needed a large rewrite. Moved to a new server with more RAM so fingers crossed it plays nicer in the future.

What you say about CB banning me is a concern I share so I won't be affiliating myself with them or seeking affiliate commissions as I thought the same. If they wanted us to have decent tools they would release them. Their API is slow, doesn't update room status quick enough and is of an overall poor quality (literally just models online). Hopefully they release better API so we don't have to work with a massive JSON response just to check a models follower count.
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What you say about CB banning me is a concern I share so I won't be affiliating myself with them or seeking affiliate commissions as I thought the same.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:21 AM   #13
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Thanks for the big red post! For a bit of context, CB can ban anyone for any reason at their sole discretion. If you are unsure about anything I would suggest you read and understand point 32 at https://chaturbate.com/terms/.

I am looking to support my app with predictable income, which while likely less than commissions, would be regular.

Paraphrased as:

License to Promotional Items. All registered users of the Site/Service who are currently in compliance with the terms of this Agreement are hereby granted a revocable, non-exclusive, non-transferable license to utilize the Site’s name, access and download promotional banners, videos, photographs, other promotional materials, and/or promotional materials created by you, provided that such materials are approved by the Site in writing (“Promotional Items”), for use on site(s) owned by such registered users (“Referral Sites ”). The Promotional Items are licensed to eligible registered users for the limited purposes of advertising, marketing and promoting the Site and Service. Any and all licenses granted to registered users pursuant to this Agreement shall immediately cease and revert to us upon the termination or cancellation of this Agreement. You agree not to share any of the Promotional Items with anyone in any way, which is not in accordance with the terms of this Agreement and applicable law. You hereby acknowledge and agree that all rights to the Promotional Items belong solely to the Site and/or the Site’s licensor(s). You further acknowledge and agree that any Promotional Item(s) created by you and approved by the Site are a specially ordered and commissioned “work made for hire” within the meaning of the 1976 Copyright Act for the good and valuable consideration provided you herein.

While the Restrictions as basically if CB don't like you:

Restrictions. You are prohibited from using any images, text, script(s), applications, logos and functional elements appearing on a Referral Sites, to which you do not have all legal rights, free from any and all encumbrances and third party claims. Further, you represent and warrant that you will only advertise on services and providers that permit advertisement of services such as the Site. You understand and agree that if you advertise on any service or provider that does not permit such advertising, your account will be terminated without notice and without payment or liability. Furthermore, you acknowledge and agree that we may, at any time, review the contents of any Referral Site and disapprove of any material thereon that might, in our sole discretion, reflect negatively upon the Site or the Service. Upon request from us, such material must be immediately removed in order for you to remain eligible to receive commissions hereunder.

I can guarantee "free from any and all encumbrances and third party claims" I personally will not claim against you. If they / you request your affiliate ID be removed I will do so.

The sticking point is:

"Promotional Item(s) created by you and approved by the Site are a specially ordered and commissioned “work made for hire”".

As such if I get approved CB will then own my work and be able to claim it for themselves. Unfortunately that's not something I can agree to.

The take home:

I will not seek approval for the site as then CB will own it as if I made it while working for them, without approval they can ban for whatever reason want.
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