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SallyRand 12-04-2010 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CYF (Post 17747720)
hey now, don't bring logic and morals to a discussion on gfy :winkwink:

Oh, yeah.

I forgot.

Never mind!

gideongallery 12-04-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17747712)
No you don't. Two wrongs do not make a right. By illegally downloading it you are stealing from everyone from the actors to the grips, to the sound men, to the casting company, to the publicisits,to the camera men, to the extras, to the best boys, to the stand-ins.............................yeah, "STEAL THIS MOVIE" because you are mad at the guy who stole your money.

"Flexible Morality"; you get all bicthed off when anyone steals porn but think it's OK to steal from all of the people who get residuals from a movie because you are mad at the producer.

Right.

actually your not, that a lie told by the movie industry

those people have already been paid from the PRODUCTION budget (unless they have back end points on the deal)

the grunts working on the movie have already been paid

the producers are the ones who are going to get paid. That being said i agree with you on the issue of having enough honor to not take the movie just because you were ripped off by epassporte. Sue epassporte, don't rip off this production company.

but don't kid yourself into believing it has anything to do with protecting the little guy on the movie set, they have already been paid, so you don't hurt them one bit by pirating the movie.

bl4h 12-04-2010 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17748086)
actually your not, that a lie told by the movie industry

those people have already been paid from the PRODUCTION budget (unless they have back end points on the deal)

the grunts working on the movie have already been paid

the producers are the ones who are going to get paid. That being said i agree with you on the issue of having enough honor to not take the movie just because you were ripped off by epassporte. Sue epassporte, don't rip off this production company.

but don't kid yourself into believing it has anything to do with protecting the little guy on the movie set, they have already been paid, so you don't hurt them one bit by pirating the movie.

It does when movies are less worth while to produce. Just take for example content theft in this industry. the damage affects pretty much everyone and its significant

in3sting 12-04-2010 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17746390)
lets flood the torrents ... basically putting Middle Men in MOTION ...

Middle Men in Motion :1orglaugh

CaptainHowdy 12-04-2010 06:36 AM

I have much better movies on queue...

ottopottomouse 12-04-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17747735)
I'm not for piracy but in this case I will make an exception.

Lets rip this bitch and seed this fucker to every torrent known to man. Put it up on tubes and leave it there until they DMCA it. Hell, put it EVERYWHERE and leave it until they DMCA it.

That post surprised me.

k0nr4d 12-04-2010 07:44 AM

no one should be judging the morality of downloading vs buying his movie, if he isn't judging the morality of screwing over people for millions.

iggysick 12-04-2010 07:46 AM

preordered 7 copies

JA$ON 12-04-2010 07:55 AM

To be honest it was ok. Not good, but OK (no I didnt pay to see it at the box office)

Im guessing if I didnt know the people that it was based on for so long, it prob would have been a little less entertaining

6 / 10 - Decent late night cabel flick

Not that anyone asked my opinion

gideongallery 12-04-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bl4h (Post 17748278)
It does when movies are less worth while to produce. Just take for example content theft in this industry. the damage affects pretty much everyone and its significant

bullshit over all movie production is up if you include all the crowdfunded productions

over all more people are working now than before

the money is being lost by the big production companies.

The lie told by these companies is that if they lose their profits, nothing will ever get produced again. The problem is that lie doesn't even make sense since these companies take 3/4 to 4/5 of the gross out of the production budget as their "profits" and "expenses".

which means a very small percentage ever gets back in the hands of the grunts making the movies

gideongallery 12-04-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bl4h (Post 17748278)
It does when movies are less worth while to produce. Just take for example content theft in this industry. the damage affects pretty much everyone and its significant

btw this statement makes no sense, since the only thing advocated and objected to was stealing this movie.

how exactly does stealing this one movie colapse the entire industry as a whole.

in this case the production/marketing/actors have already been paid, the only person who is going to lose money is the production company.

Davy 12-04-2010 02:09 PM

They can't be seriously expecting to make money from this DVD.
There are thousands of webmaster who will host this shitty movie on their torrent and tube sites.

Aric 12-04-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17747712)
...you are stealing from everyone from the actors to the grips, to the sound men, to the casting company, to the publicisits,to the camera men, to the extras, to the best boys, to the stand-ins...

The best boys? :Oh crap

sternyduke 12-04-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17747712)
No you don't. Two wrongs do not make a right. By illegally downloading it you are stealing from everyone from the actors to the grips, to the sound men, to the casting company, to the publicisits,to the camera men, to the extras, to the best boys, to the stand-ins.............................yeah, "STEAL THIS MOVIE" because you are mad at the guy who stole your money.

"Flexible Morality"; you get all bicthed off when anyone steals porn but think it's OK to steal from all of the people who get residuals from a movie because you are mad at the producer.

Right.

get off your high horse so man, you are so fucking gay. me downloading a movie isn't "literally" taking money out of anyone's pocket. once this movie is up on demonoid, i'm downloading it like all the other movies i watch.

DamianJ 12-04-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17747735)
I'm not for piracy but in this case I will make an exception.

Lets rip this bitch and seed this fucker to every torrent known to man. Put it up on tubes and leave it there until they DMCA it. Hell, put it EVERYWHERE and leave it until they DMCA it.

Astounding.

gideongallery 12-04-2010 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17750159)
Astounding.

yeah i know i love how their "moral" position changes weather it their content or someone elses.

topnotch, standup guy 12-04-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17750159)
Astounding.

The only thing astounding here is the perfect consistency of your endless petty and dogmatic nitpicking.

Well... that and the fact that Gideon has shown himself to be at least half right in this thread.


EDIT: I take back that comment about Gideon being half right. He just sounded a little less stupid in one particular post early on.
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will76 12-04-2010 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17749889)
btw this statement makes no sense, since the only thing advocated and objected to was stealing this movie.

how exactly does stealing this one movie colapse the entire industry as a whole.

in this case the production/marketing/actors have already been paid, the only person who is going to lose money is the production company.

and why is it ok for the production company to lose money from theft ?

Luscious Media 12-04-2010 05:29 PM

I heard that if you watch this movie your TV comes to life, cleans out your bank account and skips off to an island somewhere.

...kinda like The Ring.

Jakez 12-04-2010 05:33 PM

This is the one movie I will gladly download ILLEGALLY.

gideongallery 12-04-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17750306)
and why is it ok for the production company to lose money from theft ?

re read my post i never said it was, i just said it a ballfaced lie to claim that you are hurting the grunts working on the movie when you pirate a movie, you only hurt the production company, who are gobbling up 3/4 to 4/5 of the box office for their "profits" and "expenses".

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy (Post 17750270)
The only thing astounding here is the perfect consistency of your endless petty and dogmatic nitpicking.

Well... that and the fact that Gideon has shown himself to be at least half right in this thread.


EDIT: I take back that comment about Gideon being half right. He just sounded a little less stupid in one particular post early on.
.

my oppinion is 100% consistant, it doesn't change when it my content vs someone elses.

i respect fair use 100% of the time period, and i defend it 100% of the time without ever cross the line into copyright infringement.

BlackCrayon 12-04-2010 05:50 PM

someone post a megaupload link,..

directfiesta 12-04-2010 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17750306)
and why is it ok for the production company to lose money from theft ?

Ain't the production company ran by Mallick ? with Epass ( well clients ) money..

Don't come with the gaffer and electricians, they were paid.

As for Paramount, this deal is one of the sweetest they did this year :

- No money into production
- A pickup with no upfront license
- Did not even put up prints & adds
- They are the ones making the money on the DVD ...

:2 cents:

GatorB 12-04-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17747712)
No you don't. Two wrongs do not make a right. By illegally downloading it you are stealing from everyone from the actors to the grips, to the sound men, to the casting company, to the publicisits,to the camera men, to the extras, to the best boys, to the stand-ins...

Actually all those people got paid already. And most of them don't get a dime in residuals.

Agent 488 12-04-2010 06:19 PM

another kbizzle success story.

Nicky 12-04-2010 06:20 PM

I'll make sure to download $3,3k worth of It.

Davy 12-05-2010 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17750306)
and why is it ok for the production company to lose money from theft ?

Because Mallick is the producer of the movie.

He gave the money for it. It's actually your money, if you had a balance in your epassporte wallet.

bl4h 12-05-2010 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17749889)
btw this statement makes no sense, since the only thing advocated and objected to was stealing this movie.

how exactly does stealing this one movie colapse the entire industry as a whole.

in this case the production/marketing/actors have already been paid, the only person who is going to lose money is the production company.

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 17750498)
re read my post i never said it was, i just said it a ballfaced lie to claim that you are hurting the grunts working on the movie when you pirate a movie, you only hurt the production company, who are gobbling up 3/4 to 4/5 of the box office for their "profits" and "expenses".



my oppinion is 100% consistant, it doesn't change when it my content vs someone elses.

i respect fair use 100% of the time period, and i defend it 100% of the time without ever cross the line into copyright infringement.

Make up your mind, are you talking about this single movie or not. Its actually your posts that don't make sense. Of course the "grunts" lose to piracy as I explained. You cant seem to see the larger picture. If production doesnt make money, then they don't produce as much, and when they dont produce the so called grunts lose too ...

Startzone 12-05-2010 05:44 AM

can I pay with my epass wallet for this dvd? ...............Grin

gideongallery 12-05-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bl4h (Post 17751069)
Make up your mind, are you talking about this single movie or not. Its actually your posts that don't make sense. Of course the "grunts" lose to piracy as I explained. You cant seem to see the larger picture. If production doesnt make money, then they don't produce as much, and when they dont produce the so called grunts lose too ...

what exactly about total production being UP if you include crowdfunded project do you not understand ?

crowdfunded projects hire as many grunts as the full production projects.

they just don't put millions into the pockets of the big business distributing the content (and expensing their own distribution channels to gobble up 4/5 of the box office reciepts).


that the point, the statement this effects the grunts is a lie, it hurts the middle men who monopoly on distribution is being broken.

maxxtro 12-05-2010 09:21 AM

PirateBay - here we come

Argos88 12-05-2010 10:32 AM

download inception...

just search for this on google:

Inception (2010) DVDRip XviD-MAXSPEED


that torrent is high quality and don't have to pay a cent...


.

Twoface31 12-05-2010 12:07 PM

this is a cool movie middle men grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

DBS.US 12-05-2010 12:14 PM

Mallick does not care it you download the movie, he already has your money:2 cents:

epitome 12-05-2010 12:43 PM

Since this movie was funded by Mallick (as far as we know), and he alone bares the brunt of it being unsuccessful, this is the one time I am going to publicly support piracy.

I hope nobody pays for that DVD, but I hope everybody gets to see the movie.

CPA37710T 12-05-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Luscious Media (Post 17750400)
I heard that if you watch this movie your TV comes to life, cleans out your bank account and skips off to an island somewhere.

...kinda like The Ring.

LOL that was hilarious!!

blofer80 12-05-2010 01:05 PM

Buy it, he needs money to pay the money back!


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