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lazycash 12-06-2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17753052)
You purchase 200 tokens for 20 bucks.
10 tokens = 1 dollar.
100 tokens = 10 dollars.

Can people not calculate in the Southern States? :1orglaugh

The models keep roughly half of that, so Robbie was right, it comes out to around .05/token or a little higher for the models to keep.

Robbie 12-06-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17752957)
I'm curious though, why doesn't CM use both sites simultaneously like some girls do and maximize her time on cam. All she'd have to do is be live on both sites and when she got a private show on streamate it would appear on mfc as "away from webcam". At least she'd make money on mfc for all the time she sits on streamate waiting for a private. At the minimum it would instantly add 20% for her time on cam without doing anything extra.

We did do that. It wasn't a lot of money happening on MFC, but it was a few bucks...and a dollar is a dollar! :)

BUT...about an hour in, some jackass comes on streamate and starts posting that he's watching her private show for free at MFC. The minute we saw that we killed the feed to MFC.

Surfers are pretty much on top of everything these days. :pimp

Robbie 12-06-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17752119)
I don't know any girls including some of the biggest stars in the world who make $1,000 a day on webcams.

I realize I was kinda wrong about that. As I said earlier, CM makes $400 a day on Streamate. That's the goal when she works, whether she makes it in 1 hour or 4 hours. She usually makes it in around 3 hours give or take 15 minutes.

She gets 35% of the money spent. So I guess each day she actually brings in well over $1,000 a day total. I mean she gets guys to spend that much. And her cut is $400

She tries to work 4 to 5 days a week (goal is to make $2,000 in extra money per week)
Anyway, it's like clockwork. I think that she probably could hit one of those "jackpot" tippers on MFC if she worked a long day on there. But I do have to wonder if they would be loyal and consistent with "tipping" the way that the guys on a "normal" cam site are.

I know that for our situation...time is important. CM just doesn't have the time to spend all day on cams hoping to hit a jackpot. Especially if she knows 100% she can hit her daily goal on another site with no problem. I think that might be one of the biggest reasons that a lot of girls try out MFC but don't stay with it. But that's just theory on my behalf.

lazycash 12-06-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pornjudge (Post 17753436)
That site is really degrading for women... it shows you the real truth about women. MONEY IS EVERYTHING TO THEM!

and yes, their are stupid men that supports these kinds of sites.

Have you ever been to a cam site before?

Roald 12-06-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pornjudge (Post 17753436)
That site is really degrading for women... it shows you the real truth about women. MONEY IS EVERYTHING TO THEM!

and yes, their are stupid men that supports these kinds of sites.

wait.....what?

lazycash 12-06-2010 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornjudge (Post 17753436)
That site is really degrading for women... it shows you the real truth about women. MONEY IS EVERYTHING TO THEM!

and yes, their are stupid men that supports these kinds of sites.

...and your sig is degrading to anyone with a brain. Why would you support such complete bs, oh wait, you do it for the money.

Angel Martin 12-06-2010 10:09 AM

good stuff

Agent 488 12-06-2010 10:20 AM

that site is shocking. what those crafty whores wont do for a gift card. i have to reasses my view of human nature today. logging off ....

Robbie 12-06-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17753827)
what those crafty whores wont do for a gift card.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

maxxtro 12-06-2010 12:28 PM

I love the internet. Everything will be free for ever and no one will ever get paid for anything.

BareBacked 12-06-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17752106)
You guys are taking into account that the tips are only 5 cents right?
If she gets 100, she only made 5 bucks.
Just sayin'...we already tried it out. Wasn't as profitable at all as Streamate. Not even close.

Have you ever considered that your girl might not have the same mass appeal as the other girls on MFC ?

BareBacked 12-06-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy (Post 17753052)
You purchase 200 tokens for 20 bucks.
10 tokens = 1 dollar.
100 tokens = 10 dollars.

Can people not calculate in the Southern States? :1orglaugh

He means to the model

nikki99 12-06-2010 01:09 PM

is this spam? I am coinfused

Robbie 12-06-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 17754398)
Have you ever considered that your girl might not have the same mass appeal as the other girls on MFC ?

Of course. I can see why Claudia-Marie wouldn't have as much "mass appeal"...I mean...uh....

Of course not! Claudia-Marie has been hugely successful in every way in this business. And has made great money on webcams as well. Do I think that she doesn't "appeal" to guys? Hell no! If that were true I wouldn't be having this conversation. I merely wanted to point out what a very popular star made when she tried MFC as opposed to other cam sites. Again, I've heard WEBMASTERS saying that they "saw" or "know of" girls making "thousands". But I have yet to hear one girl actually say that.

Except for me reporting truthfully what CM experienced money-wise. :)

I suppose it's always possible that some amateur unknown girl who is on cam saying over and over at the top of her lungs: "COME ON GUYS...I NEED YOU TO TIP ME!!!!" would have more "appeal" than a huge tit porn star with a sexy southern accent and tons of charm would. But not in this world.

And as I said earlier...she had over 500 people in her room the whole time. Just not spending any money. So maybe on every other site in the world she attracts guys with money. But for some magical reason...only had "appeal" for broke teenage boys on MFC? heh-heh

CaptainHowdy 12-06-2010 01:22 PM

Someone tip me...

Robbie 12-06-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17754414)
is this spam? I am coinfused

I sometimes think it is when I see MFC threads. I mean...none of us can promote them. So I sometimes think somebody is either getting paid to post these useless threads or they are trying to suck up to the owner to get in on becoming an invited affiliate. :pimp

xxweekxx 12-06-2010 01:26 PM

she had 500 people she just didnt know how to work it

other girls BEG for tips.. example:

"come on guys i wanna take off my panties, tip and i'll do it"

"gonna do a naked lotion show for 10,000 tips, hurry guys"

"tip if you want to see my wet pussy"

"tip if you want me to play with my dildo"

etc.. she just doesnt need to stay there with her big boobs staring at them.. she needs to tease them into tipping(this is how the big girls there clear 4 figs a day)

Also 500 users isnt so much, ive seen 1500 users in a room.. and claudia doesnt have mass appeal like those skinny hot as fuck euro/russian girls on there...

i would fuck a lot of the skinny/hot girls there, i wouldnt really fuck CM, shes too big for me

Robbie 12-06-2010 01:29 PM

Just looking over there...looks like they list them via popularity (how many guys in the room)
Here's the number one girl right now: http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Violet420

I've been watching her for six minutes. She has over 1300 people in there. Not one tip has happened.

All I can say is CM is never out of private for this long. So the number one girl on there right now is already behind the 8 ball of what I see made on Streamate with my own two eyes.

Just sayin'... I don't think that MFC is as great as some of you think

Robbie 12-06-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 17754501)
she just doesnt need to stay there with her big boobs staring at them.. she needs to tease them into tipping(this is how the big girls there clear 4 figs a day)

Claudia-Marie has NEVER just "stay there with her big boobs staring at them"
She puts on a show. That's how she makes the kind of money she does.

And again...YOU say girls are making 4 figures a day there. I say they aren't. I'm telling you what a very popular girl experienced on there. I'm just saying I'd like to hear a girl who actually works that cam site say that she makes 4 figures a day.

And by the way...I've now been watching the number one girl on at the moment "Violet420" for 10 minutes now. And she hasn't made even ONE tip.

And that's pretty typical of what I saw every time I go there.

Agent 488 12-06-2010 01:35 PM

go on twitter every mfc girl hangs out on there.

xxweekxx 12-06-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17754526)
Claudia-Marie has NEVER just "stay there with her big boobs staring at them"
She puts on a show. That's how she makes the kind of money she does.

And again...YOU say girls are making 4 figures a day there. I say they aren't. I'm telling you what a very popular girl experienced on there. I'm just saying I'd like to hear a girl who actually works that cam site say that she makes 4 figures a day.

And by the way...I've now been watching the number one girl on at the moment "Violet420" for 10 minutes now. And she hasn't made even ONE tip.

And that's pretty typical of what I saw every time I go there.

because some of them dont know how to make it.. next time i see a tipping frenzy ill let u know

Just cuz CM doesnt do it doesnt mean it doesnt happen.. Ive seen girls make $1k in just one hour so chill out man..

xxweekxx 12-06-2010 01:40 PM

just track this girl when she comes online

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/LovelyKittie

watch her for 2-3hrs, and see how she rolls

the good girls have few guys who LOVE THEM and drop 1000 tips like its nothing

comeplay 12-06-2010 01:41 PM

yeah cause I'm sure 3:30pm EST is that woman's peak performing time. If you watch any of the successful ones it's not necessarily how much they get tipped as the following they build.

They could make 100 dollars in 6 hours from tips and instead of getting frustrated they post their paypal address and sell 50 copies of a 10 minute video of them fucking their bf for 25 dollars a pop they just cleared an extra 1250 paid instantly with zero cost to themselves. They can then say goodnight and go to sleep happy as fuck.

lazycash 12-06-2010 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17754510)
Just looking over there...looks like they list them via popularity (how many guys in the room)
Here's the number one girl right now: http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Violet420

I've been watching her for six minutes. She has over 1300 people in there. Not one tip has happened.

All I can say is CM is never out of private for this long. So the number one girl on there right now is already behind the 8 ball of what I see made on Streamate with my own two eyes.

Just sayin'... I don't think that MFC is as great as some of you think

They aren't listed based on number people in the room, they get people in their room cause they are listed at or near the top. The way the models get listed is based on a formula with profile rating by paying members being a big part of that.

Robbie 12-06-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 17754558)
just track this girl when she comes online

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/LovelyKittie

watch her for 2-3hrs, and see how she rolls

the good girls have few guys who LOVE THEM and drop 1000 tips like its nothing

Cool. I'd love to see this girl making that kind of money. :) I will watch for her.

Robbie 12-06-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by comeplay (Post 17754559)
yeah cause I'm sure 3:30pm EST is that woman's peak performing time. If you watch any of the successful ones it's not necessarily how much they get tipped as the following they build.

They could make 100 dollars in 6 hours from tips and instead of getting frustrated they post their paypal address and sell 50 copies of a 10 minute video of them fucking their bf for 25 dollars a pop they just cleared an extra 1025 paid instantly with zero cost to themselves. They can then say goodnight and go to sleep happy as fuck.

Well it's good to know that male webmasters are such experts at girls camshows and how much money they make. I'd still like to hear from just one girl in this industry that says they are making tons of money consistently on MFC.

But I'm sure that's not neccessary since all the guys on here seem to be experts on this subject. :)

Robbie 12-06-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17754568)
They aren't listed based on number people in the room, they get people in their room cause they are listed at or near the top. The way the models get listed is based on a formula with profile rating by paying members being a big part of that.

I have no clue how they list them. I just went through them in order and the one thing that was there was how many people were in the room at that minute. And that was how they were ordered from top to bottom.

comeplay 12-06-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17754590)
Well it's good to know that male webmasters are such experts at girls camshows and how much money they make. I'd still like to hear from just one girl in this industry that says they are making tons of money consistently on MFC.

But I'm sure that's not neccessary since all the guys on here seem to be experts on this subject. :)

Hey who needs TV in the background when you have multiple monitors and a unlimited stream of free naked girls at your disposal? I consider it market research myself tho.

Fabien 12-06-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17752119)
Which girls make $1,000 a day? That's great money. I don't know any girls including some of the biggest stars in the world who make $1,000 a day on webcams. But maybe someone from the big webcam sites could clear all that up for you.

EDIT: Not saying that they CAN'T make $1,000 a day. CM makes $400 a day (that's her goal) on webcams. Does it in about 3 hours. But 3 hours is about all she can physically handle on webcam...she is having orgasms the whole time lol. All the guys want to see her cum so she has a vibrator on her clit and a dildo in her ass for 3 hours. And then she collapses from exhaustion.
heh-heh

:1orglaugh

Life's a bitch and then you die :1orglaugh

Some drive drucks for hours for pennies:upsidedow

Robbie 12-06-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by comeplay (Post 17754559)
yeah cause I'm sure 3:30pm EST is that woman's peak performing time.

The internet is worldwide. Just because it's 3:30 where you live doesn't neccessarily mean anything at all.

Actually we've found that 7 to around noon Pacific time (10 to 3 your time) is pretty hot with non-stop private going on.

And then another hot time is around 9 to midnight Pacific (midnight to 3 a.m. your time)

But if you go to http://www.streamate.com/webcam/porn...77&UHNSMTY=303 and take a look...most anytime of day that one of those girls are on...they are in private making money.

Never has CM been in the "free" area there for more than one to two minutes max. It's always money happening.

That's all I'm saying about MFC. It just seemed like not much money happening consistently over there. Lots of guys watching and talking away for free. But not much money being spent per girl the way it is on other sites.

But again, that's just my observation as a guy with an actual girl doing webcams on the side. So I make sure to try and keep her working where she gets the most money per hour for her time. That's all.

xxweekxx 12-06-2010 02:04 PM

robbie chill out.. we are NOT JUST SAYING SHIT OUT OF HER ASS

IVE FUCKING SAT THERE MANY TIMES AND SEEN GIRLS MAKE THOUSANDS IN HOURS..

ESPECIALLY SELLING THEIR STUPID FUCK VIDS FOR LIKE $20 and having 50 sales in 10mins.. just chill out

CM isnt even remotely close to the top earner in the cam or website biz, there are girls out there that make what she does in a month, in a day, so chill out.. your girl has big boobs but just cuz she couldnt break $1k in MFC doesnt mean other girls dont break that in 1hr

Roald 12-06-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17754590)
Well it's good to know that male webmasters are such experts at girls camshows and how much money they make. I'd still like to hear from just one girl in this industry that says they are making tons of money consistently on MFC.

But I'm sure that's not neccessary since all the guys on here seem to be experts on this subject. :)

The most popular girls are not that known at all in the industry ;)))

xxweekxx 12-06-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17754624)
The most popular girls are not that known at all in the industry ;)))

exactly, he doesnt seem to understand this..

for every $1 your his big tit girl makes, some girl just made $100

and robbie im telling you from watching MFC that ive seen girls there pull in thousands in a few hrs.. im too old to just bs or argue.. i sat there and was adding up the tokens.. i think i even posted about it when it happened.. here..


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=975052

And here are excerpts from my post that faithful day in june:

"ok i thought ive seen it all today when this girl got like 30k+ tips..

Well im in another room, 1700 people in there.. this girl knows how to work her shit

she said tip 5k for ass show, guys came up with it..

then 5k oil show.. ppl came up with it..

4k for squirt.. ppl came up with it

THEN THE KILLER, shes rubbing herself, then says tip if you want to put your cock in my pussy..

then there was massive flooding of tips..

I need a pussy/boobs ASAP.. From my calculation this chic has banked at least $1k in the past hour"


ANother one

"today i saw a girl get 30k+ tips in <1hr..

thats over $1k for her...

its fucking crazy, its like an ego thing.. guys telling each other to tip and outtip each other.. kinda like a strip club..

this current girl has made few thousands in the past 2hrs..

I mean some mofo just came in, tipped 10k.. like seriously..

and she knows how to work it.

she's like wanna see my pussy spread, tip 3k, then bam, tips flow

Why would a dumbass tip a cam girl 10k.. at some point some of these dudes spending $x,xxx on cams might as well bang some craigslist hookers"

Robbie 12-06-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 17754638)
exactly, he doesnt seem to understand this..

for every $1 your his big tit girl makes, some girl just made $100

Show me one. :)

I'd like to see them. No need to get all argumentative. Just show me.

I tend not to believe too much talk on GFY...especially from all of you who aren't in any way connected with anybody actually doing webcams.

And for all that b.s. about girls making more money than CM in most any aspect of this business...whatever. Again, I'm glad you guys are such experts and know these things. :)

EDIT: I just saw all the old GFY posts you just added in. That's pretty cool. Now I'd like to see that too. You might be right though...Claudia-Marie probably just isn't good enough to compete with those girls. Maybe one day I'll be checking out MFC and actually see a girl make some money. Until then, I'll reiterate what I said: Girls on MFC don't make as much money as you guys seem to think they do...and don't make the kind of money the girls on other cam sites do.

Believe it... or not. :)

Roald 12-06-2010 02:20 PM

http://www.devonalexis.com/home.html

She is huge on mfc

Robbie 12-06-2010 02:22 PM

Oh shit! I just went over there again and started watching the second girl on there "KellyHeart"
Still no tips. ZERO.
556 people in the room.

And here is her "Topic" post to everyone on there:
"Topic: beggars & assholes please effff off and have a nice day :) "

Wow. Very professional. These girls really know how to work it.

comeplay 12-06-2010 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 17754658)

come on if CM can't make it no one can on there.. surely that girl didn't make enough to have that entire pay site built..




shit one guy probably maxed his CC to buy her that fucking thing

Robbie 12-06-2010 02:24 PM

And I just went back over to http://www.streamate.com/webcam/porn...77&UHNSMTY=303

And every girl on that page that is online is in PRIVATE. You know MAKING MONEY. Interesting.

BlackCrayon 12-06-2010 02:26 PM

aspenrae makes big bucks whenever i see her on there.

Robbie 12-06-2010 02:29 PM

I'm just sayin'. I'm showing you guys that there are girls making money right now on Streamate.

I know that y'all have to at least be taking a peek at MFC right now to see if you can show me one.

So just show me a girl making any money worth mentioning at all that is on right now. I don't care if she's making a 20 dollar tip. I'd just like to see it. Just wondering...

Everybody is talking like they know something...so educate me.


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