Ok robbie watch this girl.. she isnt that impressive at getting tips but ive watched for 5mins and heres what she got so far, i even put timeline just for u


animalinside has tipped Violet420 350 tokens. 1:37 PM
Zachroe has tipped Violet420 10 tokens. 1:38
AverageJoes has tipped Violet420 500 tokens 1:40


Thats around 900 tokens in 5mins

Oh yeah she has 3000 people in her room, not 500 like CM

http://www.myfreecams.com/#CandieCane

She sucks though, shes hot as hell tho.. the good girls would make $1k+/hr with that many ppl in the room...

shit like "guys i wanna finger myself now, 5000 tips for fingers), etc

that shit works VERY well with that many ppl in the room.. people just keep contributing so they can see the shit..

Now shes in a private show :|

At night when the $$ girls come on(usually around 8pm EST)

I'll take some screenshots for u... some girls are gonna make $2-3k tonight while CM sleeps :O

Sir I am confused. Are you saying you agree with me or not?

here is one i just saw meet her topic in 2 seconds and she isn't even really that attractive and slightly annoying. only 345 users in the room.


Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 90 tokens.
LeaBadAss: 530
Canidae: round numbers
Canidae: oh crap
LeaBadAss: 440
Canidae: Lea, please catch up
LeaBadAss: i did it's now 440
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 60 tokens.
Canidae: ummmm
CKWonder: i think it's 340 now
CKWonder: i may be off tho
An anonymous user has tipped NikkiSweets 500 tokens.
JD__1985 has tipped NikkiSweets 9 tokens.
Aussiefarbu: i can be mysterious
nikkiscm: You get to keep it for yourself,the tip
NinjaHunter: [:fistpumping]
NinjaHunter: [:D]
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 120 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 200 tokens.
andenxtc has tipped NikkiSweets 33 tokens.

room is up to 584 now that shes stripping..

nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 56 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 57 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 58 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 59 tokens.

Just turned down a private

nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 60 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
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Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
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Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
andenxtc has tipped NikkiSweets 17 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
onecrzy4nikki: chow VA
Canidae: that's for CKWonder
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
andenxtc has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
andenxtc has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
CKWonder: well, thx Canidae [:)]
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 20 tokens.
andenxtc has tipped NikkiSweets 11 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 30 tokens.
VAJosh80: actually I'm out for a bit too
onecrzy4nikki: later VA
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 40 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 436 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.

talk about lowering porn conversions! This is worse than tubes

EXACTLY, the big girls set goals like 5000 tokens and meet it in a minute... thats what Robbie doesnt get

nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
eatinout69: mmmmmm
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
alphakenybody: so hot
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: I can "almost" feel your cheeks
ianhardon69: nice view
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: Nikki... [:hot]
sean5002 has tipped NikkiSweets 100 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
nikkiscm has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: [:appl] sean!
onecrzy4nikki: hello Sean!!!
JD__1985 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: [:appl] nikkiscm
DanG_86 has tipped NikkiSweets 50 tokens.
guest8262010: what a body
bodaciouslova: wow beautiful toenails
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: @DanG...dude you rock
JD__1985 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
bodaciouslova: i better tip for those feet mmmmmmmmm
andenxtc: u rock tipperz
bodaciouslova has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: I could go toe to toe baby! LOL
dav8589265929: hi lovely nikki
JD__1985 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
wired47 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: topic? what topic?
bodaciouslova: i love your toenails n polish
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
andenxtc has tipped NikkiSweets 19 tokens.
sean5002 has tipped NikkiSweets 100 tokens.
Canidae: Topic Show Love for Nikki
bodaciouslova: yummy boobs
dav8589265929: nikki is the sexys on mfc
Basics members have been temporarily muted by the model. Buy tokens once to become a Premium Member for life.
bodaciouslova: i would kiss your pretty feet then propose to u with a toering
nikkiscm: 1571
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andenxtc: nikki u know u nr 1 here
DanG_86 has tipped NikkiSweets 20 tokens.
Canidae: [:appl] Tippers Rock!
JD__1985 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 71 tokens.
andenxtc has tipped NikkiSweets 100 tokens.
JD__1985 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: [:dance]
CKWonder: Cutting Edge
Canidae: Tippers [:dance]
DanG_86 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
DanG_86 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
DanG_86 has tipped NikkiSweets 20 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 130 tokens.
jonnyboy572 has tipped NikkiSweets 208 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 20 tokens.
DanG_86 has tipped NikkiSweets 40 tokens.
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 122 tokens.
Cubby32 has tipped NikkiSweets 100 tokens.
DanG_86 has tipped NikkiSweets 10 tokens.
Canidae: Nikki [:pussy] [:wiggle]
JD__1985: whats the total??
nikkiscm: 390
JD__1985: lol wiggle for Broke JD
nikkiscm: yes
Canidae has tipped NikkiSweets 90 tokens.
Canidae: MFC calc'ing
Canidae: click whirr
Cubby32 has tipped NikkiSweets 390 tokens.
DanG_86 has tipped NikkiSweets 30 tokens.

Ok i'll stop but I just wanted to post some results to robbie since it will probably take him a while to eventually find this girl for an example anyway..

she has keyed the flooding of 10 token posts as "blizzarding her room" every giggle and thank you and kiss brings like 3 more tips

things must be going well for leo.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Radar/Deal...e-Top-of-Aqua/

Today’s property is a three-bedroom duplex with an in-unit elevator and two of those dramatic curved balconies that help give the building its sizzle. It has views north and west and came with garage space for four cars. It was purchased on November 2nd by Leo Radvinsky, who owns the Glenview company Cybertania; its website says the company operates “a portfolio of popular Internet websites.” Radvinsky declined to be interviewed.

yeah leo made/makes a killing from myfreecams, myfreesite, ultrapasswords, etc

i remember talking to him yrs ago and we were buddies.. then he was making around $10k/day.lol

Both revenue models work, ppm or tips. It is just about promotion and mostly model interaction, we are talking cams after all.

at least we got some proof for robbie.lol

yes, maybe, no.

heh-heh

And thanks xxweekxx for posting some girls making some tips. It was starting to look pretty bleak over there.

I still don't think any of them are making close to what we make. But hey...I could be wrong.

Leo is pimpin

I'm sure Robbie will somehow try to discredit this website but here is an interesting read if you wanted to know how much some people REALLY get on MFC.

HIGHEST TIP EVER 260,000

Which means that, for example, the 260,000 tokens that Mila got, cost around $20,000 or $26,000 (depending on how the member paid for it) and she got $13,000.


source and more info: http://mycamgirl.net/behind-the-scen...-on-myfreecams

"i'll see it, when i believe it" as the old saying goes.

yeah i hate when that happens.

you do realize that MFC seems to be full of younger, (18-26) year old mostly skinny attractive girls ? I don't see many older women there, no full figured or even many with huge boobs. Claudia Marie I am sure does well for her niche, but MFC caters to a different crowd. Just because Claudia doesn't make a ton of money there doesn't mean that others can't/ You make it sounds like, "well she tried it and didn't make $1,000's so I think those claims are bs" etc...

Claudia isn't exactly the average girl you would use as a litmus test. Go look at the top couple rows of girls and look at her. She just isn't the type of girl most of the customers on that site is looking for. On the other hand streamates has a good bit of niches girls, so I am sure there is a good bit of niche traffic there to support them.

Why would I try to discredit it? All I've been doing is asking for a girl who makes big money on there consistently and I want to watch her show when she's on. And in my opinion....if there is a girl that is making killer dollars, I would think she'd make a lot more on a better cam site for making money.

And yeah, I remember when that was posted up here about that girl making all that money. I was thinking...WOW!

Been watching them today. None of them are making jack shit. That's what I pointed out. Looks to me like a lot of the guys on there are teenagers without credit cards...not all, but probably a damn big percentage.

And Claudia-Marie is the ONLY girl I can honestly use as a litmus test since I am privy to what she makes because I see it. Everything and everybody else is just guessing. I don't want to "guess". I do sort of know the numbers of a couple of other girls, but I can't really disclose those since it's not my place to.

And the reason there aren't any big tit pornstars on there is because they've mostly already tried it out when they first heard the hype for it. And when they realized they couldn't make as much money there...they all went to whatever cam site that they DO make the most money at.

Look guys, I'm not saying that lightning doesn't strike. I'm just saying it strikes pretty damn good over at Streamate too sometimes. And in between those big crazy ones...you know, day to day income...it's consistently great and easy money.

I'm sure that there are some girls on there who make pretty good money consistently too. I never underestimate girls ability to get our money. heh-heh

But I don't think it's the gold mine that some of y'all do. And I can only speak from actually watching someone do it.

EDIT: One hunnert girls going "Crazy" with mega-tips from teenage boys with no credit cards and other assorted freeloaders.

Great example of why the flexible mfc system ultimately is most beneficial for the model. In a traditional ppv cam site, the model is constrained to make directly for her time in private shows, whereas on mfc, the token system has no ceiling and any amount can be given to a girl at any time.

there are some things you don't get, this is obviously one of them.

robbie you looking at the same site. first chick i clicked was getting steady tokens ...?

i think you have a psychological block to seeing models do well there because cm did not do as well?

That's not true. When I went there I posted the exact time and model. And watched them for the exact times I posted. CM has NEVER went that long without being in private. And neither do any of the other girls on the pornstar page at Streamate. That's just the truth.

Again...I can only tell y'all what I know. Not guessing and telling tall tales of this girl and that girl making thousands of dollars every minute.

I told the truth. I COULD have just as easily sat behind this keyboard and typed that CM made a fortune on MFC and makes even crazier fortunes on Streamate. But I gave out actual figures.

I could say that I just saw some girl making thousands and thousands of those ten cent (five cents for the girl) tokens and just join in the bro-mance for MFC.

Anyway, it's been interesting talking to all of you about it. Good luck with promoting it...oh, that's right. Freeones is the only site represented in this thread who was invited to be an affiliate...so what the heck are the rest of y'all doing here. LOL!
Just kidding. It was a good discussion. Lot of varying viewpoints. Thanks guys.

Thing is, I think CM actually did alright her first time on mfc based on Robbie's quote I posted earlier where CM tried mfc last summer. Almost $100 for 2.5 hours on cam at mfc for her first time isn't bad. Keep in mind, Robbie really shouldn't be comparing CM's streamate earnings to just one time on mfc. With streamate, CM has built up many followers and regular purchasers on streamate. Private sessions have most likely gotten more frequent for her since she started on streamate, just like they would if she were on mfc more frequently.

CM should just use both sites simultaneously to maximize her earnings, it doesn't have to be one or the other. I've seen girls do their weekly Camz show and broadcast it simultaneously on mfc and make $100 for the hour show even though they had no interaction with the mfc chat room.

Oh one other thing...CM did do "well" It's just that 50 bucks an hour isn't worth her time when she can make 2 to 3 times that on another site.

And I'm on MFC now. Clicked the very first girl. Her name is Jalyn
Young skinny teen, fully dressed. Doesn't look to have tits or ass...kinda like a 12 year old boy :1orglaugh
Not my type at all...but a lot of the guys here seem to like those androgynous type girls with flat butts and flat chests.

Okay, been watching her for FOUR minutes. CM would already have a private room full of guys paying $3.99 a minute within the first 60 seconds. So far NO money at all

Wait she just took her bottom off. Yep, tiny boy-like ass that so many here at GFY prefer.
Now she's dancing real close to the camera in her panties so I can see her camel toe

Real nice tight teen stomach.

And BOOM....there she goes! Finally! At the six minute mark. She just went to a private group show.
Looks about like what the "average" girls I watch on streamate do. I think this little tiny half-boy looking cutie pie could make a lot more money in the teen section at Streamate or at Cams.Com or even Live Jasmin.

That's what I saw. That's my most recent "report" :)

you can only use claudia as a litmus test if the site will make money for HER not if there is money to be made on the site. She simply doesn't fit the mold for what is popular on that site. There isn't many if any girls who look like her on the front page (top couple 100 girls) therefore there is likely very little traffic/customers/money on the site to be spent on girls like her.

You can speak from her experiences and the time you spent on the site. I already explained off why her experience would not be representative of the norm, but honestly how in the hell can you monitor everythign that goes on there. There are 100s of rooms going 24/7, you can only be in 1 room at a time, and how many hours did you spend there. Just because you didn't see it happen at the exact time you were in 1 out of 100's of rooms doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Don't be so closed minded man. You gave it a couple hour shot, you didn't like the results, all you established is that it didn't work for her.

Not to mention your comparison is skewed. How long has she been working on streamates. I think it is safe to say she has a regular base of loyal repeate member on streamates. That definetly influences the avg per day she makes. You went and tried a new site for a couple hours where she has no history, no repeat member, following already established. Did you really expect her to make more or less? If she worked MFC and built up regulars for as long as she has been on streamates it is possible she could posibly make more on MFC even since she isn't the prototypical girl for that site.

MFC is a different animal, you say "beg" is unprofessional, dude its a different business model , the girls hussle there and get low budget people to collectively spend a decent amount of money. Where as on traditional cam sites the big spenders come in ready to spend and she doesnt have to focus on selling as much as providing a good show.

Think it through, don't be so closed minded and quick to judge something just because you tested it for a couple hours and surfed some rooms. Honestly it sounds like to me you just trying to justify the site as not good because she didn't do great on it.

now you just sound like an idiot.

dude robbie dont u get it.. LOOK at their top girls for past months.. they are all young skinny 20 somethings.. im telling u that your big tit chic is not mainstream

I can bring 100 random guys, then bring a hot skinny girl and have them pick between her and CM, i bet u most of them would pick the hot chic

Heck i wont even fuck CM shes too chunky.. i dont like my girls weighing more than me.. anyway some guys have already posted proof of tokens and u are still disputing it.. let it go already

will...Why can't I compare them?

If a girl can go on one cam site and make money within the first MINUTE...and girls on another site are sitting in rooms full of hundreds of guys and not making anything at all for 5 to 10 minutes at a time? I'm just saying that if I can go to one cam site take a look at the girls there and have trouble finding one that is in public for more than a couple of minutes...and the other site is full of girls not making money for the same amount of time...that's a pretty fair comparison.

Of course some drug fueled multi-millionaire MIGHT go onto MFC and do another of those giant once in a lifetime mega tips. But what about day to day for that same girl?

Some girls on MFC never accept group or private shows and only rely on tips and outside pic/vid/IM/gift promotions

Thank God you aren't the majority of porn customers. I'd be broke!

And I dare you to bring 100 random guys to see CM and some hot skinny chick side by side in real life. Claudia isn't fat at all. She just has big tits and a big ass.

Come to Vegas for the AEE show and see her with lines of people trying to get pictures with her while the hot skinny chicks are standing by themselves. Or just come to Vegas anytime and we'll go to the casinos and clubs and watch it for yourself.

You have to understand that the majority of guys out there aren't necessarily into what you like. I will say that GFY and webmasters in general DO go for young teen looking girls. Hell, I like them too. But I've never differentiated when it comes to beautiful women. A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman to me.

i didnt say guys dont like CM

All i know is more guys prefer someone like her; http://profiles.myfreecams.com/LovelyKittie

Thats the girl that made me post that thread a while back.. she made thousands in hrs from some guys who loved her

shes incredibly hot..

Anyway CM Is hot yes, but im telling u more GUYS IN THE WORLD PREFER A SKINNY HOT CHIC TO A WOMAN WHO IS PUSHING 150LBS+ at least

Seriously dude, u must be dreaming if u think most guys will prefer http://claudia-marie.com/tourA/pics/010.html TO http://img.myfreecams.com/photos2/30...27-1330618.jpg

List of top girls(by tokens for current month)

http://www.myfreecams.com/mfc2/php/m...coration=true&

GO through that list.. how many girls like CM do you see? what does that tell u ;)

???

Are you all drunk?

10 tokens = 1 dollar.
60% go to the model. That's 60 cents not 6 cents.

I bet if we took a poll most of those listed make at least $25,000 every month

Yep I'm just dreaming. Like I said...but if you want to cherry pick picture, Here's one for you from just the other day:
http://claudia-marie.com/fun/cmnovember2010.jpg

And no, there are NOT more guys in the WORLD who would choose that little hottie over a curvy Claudia-Marie.
Again, I know I can't convince you of that. Just come to Vegas and let's all go out and I'll show you. Seeing is believing right?

Come to AEE. Or just come for a little vacation anytime. I'll show you some of the cool non-tourist places in town too. And we'll make sure to walk through all the big casinos together and just watch what happens.

Dude, it's a big world out there. I'd LOVE to fuck that little teen hottie. But I can think of tons of other porn girls who I would pick over her if I had some kind of God-Like power to do so.

That kind of girl is a a dime a dozen in most towns. I like more exotic looking, rare and unique girls. And my years of work as an affiliate tell me that so do the majority of men.

Of course it goes in waves. Ten years ago I was selling memberships to Tawnee Stone like taking candy from a baby. Today? Teen doesn't sell that well.

Now cams? I believe you when you say that girl makes bank. It would be real interesting to see if she actually makes the 2 grand a week in extra pocket money that CM makes putting in 3 maybe 4 hours a day during the week.

If she does...then good for her! Rare to see a teen making 100 grand a year. Especially in this economy.

he said "roughly" are you drunk?

Bro, you need to get out and hang with strippers and whores more often and you'd realize just how very, very wrong you are. Girls like that become "rich" one day if they make a few hundred bucks. Then they don't work again until they've spent all that money.