not only my opinion

it is your opinion, one you maybe share with many people, but it still is just that , an opinion

same as piratebay peeps have an opinion, their opinion is that stealing full lenght movies is ok :2 cents:

irrelevant ...

Well, let's start with your opinion. How did you arrive at the conclusion that accepting stolen property was not a crime?

it's about free press

So how about we steal your personal diary that contains your most intimate and personal thoughts and post it online in the interest of "free press". Then we post your personal information, a full biography of everything you thought was personal and private about your life. Then, your families information, your tax records, your medical records, your families medical records and so on????

According to people like you, there are no boundaries and should be no boundaries. Its about "free press" (whatever that means)
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no proberty are stolen..it's information

Many courts have ruled that Free Press doesn't necessarily pertain to information found through illegal means.

The great Sarah Palin just won such a case.

hahaha, that about sums it up ! :2 cents::2 cents:

i guess they'll feel pretty stupid when they realize what wikileaks posts is what the government lets them post. lots of other shit that never made it out...

Just information?

What do you think would happen if somebody stole the source code to any number of popular software packages? It's just information. It's text on a document.

Books are just information. Newspapers are just information. Thousands of pages of research behind patents are just information. Formulas for medicine are just information.

thats not even comparable. tax dollars pays for the people who are saying these things.

i agree with you...however

the information that needs to get out affects everyone...so it isnt just personal info that no one needs to see...its the underhanded back room deals to control the populice through debt that needs to be brought to light

Certainly not because a few governments didn't like to me made to look like the cunts they are so they collaborated and are shutting him down.

Oh no.

That would never happen.

They went after Mastercard.com instead. it's down now.

Possibly so. Why aren't we seeing any of that information yet? So far we hear about Saudi Arabia wanting to bomb Iran (which many people thought anyway), the President of some country in the middle of nowhere is extremely vain, and Angela Markel is a fuddy duddy.

I mean shit... if you want to blow the whistle, blow the damn whistle.

It IS just information.

Sorry but be it can't be compared to proprietary code or pharma patents.

There is no exclusive rights over a conversation :2 cents:

i spotted this treat they make on facebook yesterday, but paid no attention to it.

the whole wikileaks thing is boring to be honest.

have the propaganda makers sunk this low with their creativity for the sheep?

i know..i want to see the dirt :)

its funny though as soon as he was about to unleash the banking info...hes in custody

they killed kennedy...he shouldnt think hes safe cause hes a swed

Yeh, actually there are rights over private conversations. Particularly those that may involve national security, large economics deals, this and that, that and this.

Somebody records a visit between you and your lawyer. You're telling me that's fair game? You and your doctor. Fair game? Sure, once it's out, it's out... doesn't mean it's not illegal.

I am saying your analogy with source code and pharma patents is wrong.

Is it legal either way? I don't know...

There are some things money can't buy. For Everything else there is <ping timeout>

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sshh you might offend some electro-anarchist that can't function without the US power grid.....

hah, made my day!

It's not just you! http://mastercard.com looks down from here.

i kind of have a personal grudge against paypal, so while i am neutral on the the whole wiki/4chan thing in general, anything that hurts paypal, makes me smile.

You know it is making thing work as simple as possible that is difficult. And wikileaks has nailed it. :1orglaugh

Watching people get so emotional over this has been funny. It is pretty entertaining. Reality entertainment at it's finest.

so much for 'light political action' on the part of anon lol

The people speak in the means and ways available to them at any given point in history...

This time around... maybe the revolution will not be televised, but spread virally through the internet...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...and_rebellions

How do you know that? How do you know what the "information" is? How do you know what standards were used to redact it or filter it or anything?

Answer... you don't. Further, you are not calculating the harms, only what you perceive to be the "benefits" which in itself is highly subjective.

You just know that some shit disturber is thumbing his nose at the man, thats super cool and fuck the consequences.


So today its "freedom of press" to publish every private diplomatic conversation regardless of their content, harming ties between nations, disrupting trade and trade agreements, negotiations, relationships and so on and the fun position is "anything and everything is OK by me" but few seem to grasp the implications of where that thinking leads.

Just don't bitch when your medical records show up on youtube in a fun video about STDs that goes viral. After all, the uploader can just use some simplistic and moronic reasoning like "STD's affect everyone and this is a global concern"

It has been hours now and mastercard is still down.

The argument of whether wikileaks is illegal is a very grey area.

The guy that gave them the information was breaking his contractual obligation to not disclose the information. The information is public domain, simply not released into the public domain until such a date has passed (which is mentioned on all of the cables). Therfore, how can it be illegal to print something that is public domain, but just not released 'officially' yet?

I don't think that the US govt has actually officially acknowledged the authenticity of any wikileaks material... they have forbidden all govt employees from reading the information on wikileaks, but that's about all.

That wouldn't affect your $.

He doesn't receive a tax money.

pretty dumb analogy .... did not realize that the cables were copyrighted....

Tell me about person C ...

Yeah but if Person A steals something that was Person Cs and gives it to B to give to C is it wrong?

Police do that all the time when they recover stolen stuff. These documents belong to the people of the United States of America, they are not copyrighted and they are funded by the people. This isn't porn movies.

A night with Paris Hilton ....

Please elaborate on that PRECISE case ...

Where do the kids at 4chan discuss about their attacks? What part of the site?

it's funny, i've had the news on the background all morning, and while they keep mentioning anon, they have never once mentioned 4chan lol. okay, time to go snowboarding.

Yeah, they should do something effective. like standing around on a street holding a sign.


Direct Action is the only action pigs understand..

"This Account Has Been Suspended for the following reason : Furfaggotry"

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I get this message:

This Account Has Been Suspended for the following reason : Furfaggotry

Mastercard have been down for 9 hours now

WE ARE GLAD TO TELL YOU THAT http://www.mastercard.com/ is DOWN AND IT'S CONFIRMED! #ddos #wikileaks Operation:Payback(is a bitch!) #PAYBACK
about 9 hours ago via Chromed Bird

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yup, just tried it still down :2 cents: