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munki 12-08-2010 11:09 AM

The people speak in the means and ways available to them at any given point in history...

This time around... maybe the revolution will not be televised, but spread virally through the internet...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...and_rebellions

minicivan 12-08-2010 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17759379)
i agree with you...however

the information that needs to get out affects everyone...so it isnt just personal info that no one needs to see...its the underhanded back room deals to control the populice through debt that needs to be brought to light

How do you know that? How do you know what the "information" is? How do you know what standards were used to redact it or filter it or anything?

Answer... you don't. Further, you are not calculating the harms, only what you perceive to be the "benefits" which in itself is highly subjective.

You just know that some shit disturber is thumbing his nose at the man, thats super cool and fuck the consequences.


So today its "freedom of press" to publish every private diplomatic conversation regardless of their content, harming ties between nations, disrupting trade and trade agreements, negotiations, relationships and so on and the fun position is "anything and everything is OK by me" but few seem to grasp the implications of where that thinking leads.

Just don't bitch when your medical records show up on youtube in a fun video about STDs that goes viral. After all, the uploader can just use some simplistic and moronic reasoning like "STD's affect everyone and this is a global concern"

DateDoc 12-08-2010 11:13 AM

It has been hours now and mastercard is still down.

input 12-08-2010 11:18 AM

The argument of whether wikileaks is illegal is a very grey area.

The guy that gave them the information was breaking his contractual obligation to not disclose the information. The information is public domain, simply not released into the public domain until such a date has passed (which is mentioned on all of the cables). Therfore, how can it be illegal to print something that is public domain, but just not released 'officially' yet?

I don't think that the US govt has actually officially acknowledged the authenticity of any wikileaks material... they have forbidden all govt employees from reading the information on wikileaks, but that's about all.

Naughty-Pages 12-08-2010 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina (Post 17759111)
Just in case I took my money out of paypal. I only had like $300 there, but no sense in losing it

That wouldn't affect your $.

Klen 12-08-2010 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minicivan (Post 17759605)
How do you know that? How do you know what the "information" is? How do you know what standards were used to redact it or filter it or anything?

Answer... you don't. Further, you are not calculating the harms, only what you perceive to be the "benefits" which in itself is highly subjective.

You just know that some shit disturber is thumbing his nose at the man, thats super cool and fuck the consequences.


So today its "freedom of press" to publish every private diplomatic conversation regardless of their content, harming ties between nations, disrupting trade and trade agreements, negotiations, relationships and so on and the fun position is "anything and everything is OK by me" but few seem to grasp the implications of where that thinking leads.

Just don't bitch when your medical records show up on youtube in a fun video about STDs that goes viral. After all, the uploader can just use some simplistic and moronic reasoning like "STD's affect everyone and this is a global concern"

He doesn't receive a tax money.

directfiesta 12-08-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 17759265)
hahahah, how about the freedom to leak paysite passwords ? or the freedom to leak full lenght movies on tubesites ?

you also oppose the government closing them down ? wikileaks is to the government the same as what illegal tubes are to porn webmasters :2 cents:

pretty dumb analogy .... did not realize that the cables were copyrighted....

directfiesta 12-08-2010 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 17759299)
thats your opinion ... if wikileaks is not illegal then why is the guy that has stolen all the information from government computers been arrested ? and is facing life in jail ?



so let me get this right , person A steals something give it to person B , then person B knowing that the material is stolen passes it on

and that is ok ?

so if I have a paysite, person A rips all my movies, gives it to person B then person B makes a full site with my material

that is ok ? Person B did not steal anything and thus his site is legal ?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Tell me about person C ...

moeloubani 12-08-2010 11:33 AM

Yeah but if Person A steals something that was Person Cs and gives it to B to give to C is it wrong?

Police do that all the time when they recover stolen stuff. These documents belong to the people of the United States of America, they are not copyrighted and they are funded by the people. This isn't porn movies.

directfiesta 12-08-2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minicivan (Post 17759359)
So how about we steal your personal diary that contains your most intimate and personal thoughts and post it online in the interest of "free press". Then we post your personal information, a full biography of everything you thought was personal and private about your life. Then, your families information, your tax records, your medical records, your families medical records and so on????

According to people like you, there are no boundaries and should be no boundaries. Its about "free press" (whatever that means)
:2 cents:

A night with Paris Hilton ....

directfiesta 12-08-2010 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17759364)
Many courts have ruled that Free Press doesn't necessarily pertain to information found through illegal means.

The great Sarah Palin just won such a case.

Please elaborate on that PRECISE case ...

Emil 12-08-2010 11:36 AM

Where do the kids at 4chan discuss about their attacks? What part of the site?

quiet 12-08-2010 11:40 AM

it's funny, i've had the news on the background all morning, and while they keep mentioning anon, they have never once mentioned 4chan lol. okay, time to go snowboarding.

Coup 12-08-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 17758908)
This isn't sticking up for Freedom of Speech. This is simply acting out.

Yeah, they should do something effective. like standing around on a street holding a sign.


Direct Action is the only action pigs understand..

Babaganoosh 12-08-2010 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Porn? (Post 17758924)
Works for me http://anonops.net/

"This Account Has Been Suspended for the following reason : Furfaggotry"

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

marketsmart 12-08-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil (Post 17759680)
Where do the kids at 4chan discuss about their attacks? What part of the site?

irc...




.

selena 12-08-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Porn? (Post 17758924)
Works for me http://anonops.net/

I get this message:

This Account Has Been Suspended for the following reason : Furfaggotry

TheSwed 12-08-2010 12:06 PM

Mastercard have been down for 9 hours now

WE ARE GLAD TO TELL YOU THAT http://www.mastercard.com/ is DOWN AND IT'S CONFIRMED! #ddos #wikileaks Operation:Payback(is a bitch!) #PAYBACK
about 9 hours ago via Chromed Bird

Ethersync 12-08-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasty (Post 17759440)
There are some things money can't buy. For Everything else there is <ping timeout>

:1orglaugh

JFK 12-08-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 17759608)
It has been hours now and mastercard is still down.

yup, just tried it still down :2 cents:

JFK 12-08-2010 12:11 PM

100.........Major shit storms :Graucho

Evil Chris 12-08-2010 12:17 PM

was there a shit storm at all?

iSpyCams 12-08-2010 12:19 PM

This storm is shit!!!

PornoStar69 12-08-2010 12:19 PM

False flag cyber attacks aka INSIDE JOB

You lot are falling for it -AGAIN - LOL

JFK 12-08-2010 12:21 PM

on CNN

http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/08/news...dex.htm?hpt=T2
but is says the cards are stil working, so no big deal :2 cents:

Fletch XXX 12-08-2010 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoStar69 (Post 17759775)
False flag cyber attacks aka INSIDE JOB

You lot are falling for it -AGAIN - LOL

hook, line, and sinker.

Deputy Chief Command 12-08-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17759653)
pretty dumb analogy .... did not realize that the cables were copyrighted....

who was talking about copyright , I was talking about legal ownership

Deputy Chief Command 12-08-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17759669)
Yeah but if Person A steals something that was Person Cs and gives it to B to give to C is it wrong?

Police do that all the time when they recover stolen stuff. These documents belong to the people of the United States of America, they are not copyrighted and they are funded by the people. This isn't porn movies.


so you have this fantasy that top secret documents belong to every single person of the US because you pay "taxes" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Deputy Chief Command 12-08-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17759658)
Tell me about person C ...


who is this person C you refer to ?

in this case it was Ben Manning ( person A ) and Wikileaks ( person B ) pretty simple analogy , and pretty much how it went, even though wikileaks does not acknowledge they got it from person A but rather take a stand they dont know where it actually came from

still they knew it was stolen/ illegal information ,

on november 27 US gov declared the whole wikileaks operation illegal :2 cents:

Sly 12-08-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputy Chief Command (Post 17760955)
so you have this fantasy that top secret documents belong to every single person of the US because you pay "taxes" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I hope that means I also own the USS Ronald Reagan. Man that would be one hell of a Webmaster party. Everyone is invited. We'll all fly in on fighter jets. Mission accomplished!

MetaMan 12-08-2010 09:17 PM

Who wants to take bets this entire wikileaks thing including hacks has been setup so they americans can push the internet kill switch on people.

Socks 12-08-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 17759186)
I am really not sure why people engaged in a business based on online processing and people having disposable income would cheer a group of people who hope to bring global political instability and disrupt the online payment process. Seems like people who are engaged in orderly and legal commerce would generally oppose the anarchists who hope to bring down the "system" that gets you paid.

I guess that's kinda similar to charity no?

I mean why take food off of my table to give to someone I don't even know?

Because you feel compassionate about their situation..

Like in a game where the goal is to collect money, does it EVER make sense to.. GIVE IT AWAY? Well... Sometimes.

Socks 12-08-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17761055)
Who wants to take bets this entire wikileaks thing including hacks has been setup so they americans can push the internet kill switch on people.

If some sort of internet doomsday arrives, please remind us of what you posted here. Otherwise, we'll all forget. :upsidedow

MetaMan 12-08-2010 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 17761061)
If some sort of internet doomsday arrives, please remind us of what you posted here. Otherwise, we'll all forget. :upsidedow

not doomsday. just another excuse for more regulation. more control.

seeric 12-08-2010 10:03 PM

they're really gonna be pissed when they see walmart is running homeland security scare tactic videos at their checkout lines. lol.

i can see it now. DDOS on walmarts front doors. 1000's and 1000's of nerds running at the front doors to try and stop walmart shoppers from getting into the stores to shop.

HAHAHA.

Major (Tom) 12-08-2010 10:37 PM

Fox news just called it "revenge of the nerds"
That made me chuckle
ds


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