i think your onto something here.

Maybe AWE put's their own cookies out on them so they don't have to pay anyone for sales

Bingo. That's basically what I was wondering. Depends on how their system actually reads the cookies.

why would they go through all this trouble with cookies and shit when they could just shave

because the amount of signups they get credited to themself by the cookies are a hell of alot.... think when a big part of surfers on tube sites (note: the biggest porn sites in the world) put 1 click in their pop up or under, and when another wm makes the sale, they get credited... because the biggest free porn sites are infested with them.. when they'd kill the cookie method, they would need to shave a hell of alot to get the same "own" sale amount.... this is a legal and effective way for them to get the sale credit, and not the final sale webmaster, and it's right in their TOS... but even though they have this construction there is still $ to be made with the 222 pps.... and when you create your own WL you get credited for all your sales. And eventually i will only be sending traffic to my whitelabel.

1) the cookies don't overwrite each other. Easily confirmed and something ive checked 9038329048324 times

2) PPS cookies last a month - REVS cookies last 7 days

3) the affiliate id for AWE bought popunders starts with "ED_"

4) you have to click through them for the cookie to be set

info ive gathered

If you pop up one of the most annoying sites on the net, it makes it easier to sell your other ads.

i agree with you

thanks....

Let me repeat what I said. Popunders do not place affiliate cookies unless the visitor clicks the ad. (additional information: cookies that may be placed in popunders are for internal tracking and user behavior based optimization and/or pop restriction - example: set creative to pop only once per every 24 hours and so on)

There is no conspiracy, popunders still work as an effective marketing tool. If you come across sites that keep using them that means one thing - It is working and converting.

If I was given the following two options to choose from...

a. Spend time on constructing conspiracy theories on message boards
b. Give AWE's products a try, see how they convert, work with our account managers, all of whom are here to help with the optimization process,etc. THEN arrive at a conclusion.
- Things going well, AWE seems to be the right match for my traffic? Great. Increase traffic, earn more.
- Not working so well? Try additional optimization, talk to our account managers, try new marketing angles or move on.

...the choice would seem pretty obvious to me. :)

popping 50 bottles & pop unders

Or turn it around and ask why so many people tend to distrust one company? Rather strange, is it not? :shrug:

I mean REVS cookies last 14 days ! dont know why i put 7

I am making more and more money with them and I am very satisfied and happy affiliate! They are kind and helpful and its a pleasure to talk to them and make deals with them! :2 cents: :thumbsup :pimp

according awe cookie is only installed after the surfer clicks through, not just pop up alone.