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BFT3K 12-12-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Riffhard (Post 17768332)
I smoked the leaves and felt absolutely nothing. Then I smoked 20X extract and turned into a spaghetti-o.

Now we've gone full circle. That's how this all began. Smoking the dried Salvia leaves, in any way like you smoke weed, does not yield any results. After all of the arguing it would appear everyone is in agreement with my original assessment after all.

HighlyIntoxicated 12-12-2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17768317)
The best hallucinogen is still Ayahuasca :2 cents:

DMT is a hell of a drug

CurrentlySober 12-12-2010 12:56 PM

i like drugs but do not take them

Agent 488 12-12-2010 01:12 PM

real men smoke rock.

Serge Litehead 12-12-2010 01:41 PM

try to smoke coca leafs next time)

CaptainWolfy 12-12-2010 01:43 PM

pot, salvia, heroine, cocaine, e's etc.. name it :D

BFT3K 12-12-2010 01:45 PM

Everyone knows the only REAL way to get high, is to eat bugs...

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/ManEatingBugs.gif

ottopottomouse 12-12-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17768231)

Seen some bad pictures of her but that's probably the worst :Oh crap

amateurbfs 12-12-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768324)
LSD is, was, and will always be, at the top of the hallucinogenic food chain.

Salvia, nutmeg, rosewood seeds, mushrooms, morning glory seeds, and whatever other silliness hits the zeitgeist, will never live up to the king of the tripper drugs. If you really want to trip, then acid is the shit....period.


You must have never done dmt

bhutocracy 12-12-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by amateurbfs (Post 17768665)
You must have never done dmt


Or more than the slightest taste test of mushrooms... Comparing psilocybin to fucking nutmeg? Puhlease. Shrooms can put you on your ass harder than LSD depending on amount/quality as it's a bit less of a "clean" high.

Si 12-12-2010 05:14 PM

smoked salmon for the win!

The Duck 12-12-2010 05:28 PM

Salvia divinorium used right is one of the strongest hallucinogenics known to man. Right up there with DMT.


CyberHustler 12-12-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 17768738)
Salvia divinorium used right is one of the strongest hallucinogenics known to man. Right up there with DMT.


:1orglaugh

munki 12-13-2010 12:09 AM

I got bent on Salvia... won't go near the shit now. I like my rides controllable... despite being a very short experience, it was very intense. Had a mind-fuck feel afterwards that lasted hours. I much prefer a lil peyote or DMT in the desert with good company then Salvia ever, ever again.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-13-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768222)
All of what you and AMP are saying may be true. All I know is that smoking it in a joint, or in a bowl using a regular match or lighter, will yield no results.

Perhaps a torch lighter makes it work, but this is the first I am hearing of it, so maybe you guys have a point. Why is this turning into an argument? It would be cool if it worked, as it is still legal in most areas.

From my experience however, it does not live up to any of the hype.

Smoking it like tobacco or marijuana will do sweet fuck all. Get an extract, and burn it HOT.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-13-2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 17768711)
Or more than the slightest taste test of mushrooms... Comparing psilocybin to fucking nutmeg? Puhlease. Shrooms can put you on your ass harder than LSD depending on amount/quality as it's a bit less of a "clean" high.

Mushrooms do tend to bring on the paranoid fear more frequently. They fuck with your head in pretty werid ways. If they aren't fucking with your head majorly, eat more, or eat stronger mushrooms. You can pretty fucking warped on mushrooms, if you can contain the fear..

Varius 12-13-2010 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 17768711)
Or more than the slightest taste test of mushrooms... Comparing psilocybin to fucking nutmeg? Puhlease. Shrooms can put you on your ass harder than LSD depending on amount/quality as it's a bit less of a "clean" high.

I completely agree - having done every hallicinogen knwon to man - ayuhasca is the ultimate in "spirit world travels".

Buzz 12-13-2010 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 17768160)
You can NOT get high from it, at all!

I have no idea why it's even in the news.

You will get more of a buzz from smoking a fish.

Are you sure it was Salvia Divinorum?

From what I've seen you can get SO HIGH you will regret afterwards :)

alias 12-13-2010 06:56 AM

I heard salvia is low end crap.

HomerSimpson 12-13-2010 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 17768234)
Not perhaps...Using anything else is pretty much useless.

http://dreaminthelife.com/wp-content...g_it_wrong.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

webairalex 12-13-2010 10:03 AM

Salvia is very potent and very scary, it will mess you up

TurboAngel 12-13-2010 11:11 AM

I would never smoke this shit.

bhutocracy 12-15-2010 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17769230)
Mushrooms do tend to bring on the paranoid fear more frequently. They fuck with your head in pretty werid ways. If they aren't fucking with your head majorly, eat more, or eat stronger mushrooms. You can pretty fucking warped on mushrooms, if you can contain the fear..

From what I remember for me the fear tended to be more of a come-on panic that passed relatively quickly before you entered into the trip properly. It wasn't a weed style paranoia/fear about "someone coming", more a phase of fear itself that relaxed into hours hours of absurdity... Although I never really did them in an urban environment (our consensus as small town teens was that it would be a bad thing to be away from nature) and was half as old (ie less shit to worry about). I never had a bad trip or even a half bad trip. There was just an occasional 15 minute fear wave every couple of times we did it. To call mushrooms weird is an understatement. They are kind of infinitely weird in an ever renewing way. Yeah, if you're not getting your head fucked you're doing it wrong. Completely and utterly wrong. A proper dose of mushrooms can have you gibbering on the ground unable to speak because your mind is in a lucid fire as it experiences the universe pushing you into the earth and it hasn't left any neurons spare for shallow things like co-ordinating your lips and tongue to make words.

Jakez 12-15-2010 03:39 AM

Pretty confused here.. you smoked the regular leaves from a salvia plant or something? I've bought the extract from a smoke shop before, me and some friends took turns smoking it out of a bong (with a regular Bic lighter) and lets just say that shit is no fucking joke.

comeplay 12-15-2010 04:03 AM

I smoked a small amount once among mixed company, the girl before me was tripping so hard (she was kind of crazy to begin with) and i thought she was going to lose it. She almost made me not want to try it. I did, i'm glad I did it was very intense i felt like my entire body was falling into my chair in some dark black time warp hole or something. Felt so heavy. It felt like hours but was probably 2 minutes and i came out of it. Felt off for the rest of the day.

That was my 2nd attempt, the first was regular leaves burned in a bowl with no effect.. this was in more of a long crack pipe piece and i learned you have to constantly flame it, no cherrying at all and you breath in as much as possible and aim to hold it for 2 minutes. You will forget hot long you held it or when or if you exhaled by the time you realize it has hit you.

Ps. I don't think I would compare any part of this trip to acid or shrooms in any way besides feeling "heavy" or "sinking". If anything it was more similar to whippits/nitrous or coricidin/dxm. I would imagine it would be comparable to ketamine aka special K but I have never tried it so can't say for sure.. just the comparison to "out of body experiences" I have read about from it.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-15-2010 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 17774736)
From what I remember for me the fear tended to be more of a come-on panic that passed relatively quickly before you entered into the trip properly. It wasn't a weed style paranoia/fear about "someone coming", more a phase of fear itself that relaxed into hours hours of absurdity... Although I never really did them in an urban environment (our consensus as small town teens was that it would be a bad thing to be away from nature) and was half as old (ie less shit to worry about). I never had a bad trip or even a half bad trip. There was just an occasional 15 minute fear wave every couple of times we did it. To call mushrooms weird is an understatement. They are kind of infinitely weird in an ever renewing way. Yeah, if you're not getting your head fucked you're doing it wrong. Completely and utterly wrong. A proper dose of mushrooms can have you gibbering on the ground unable to speak because your mind is in a lucid fire as it experiences the universe pushing you into the earth and it hasn't left any neurons spare for shallow things like co-ordinating your lips and tongue to make words.

I remember walking down an empty street in the middle of the night screaming at the top of my lungs, unsure whether or not the sounds were thoughts in head, or if I was actually speaking out loud. I was mumbling to myself, and suddenly thought that I could no longer make sounds, that I couldn't actually hear what I thought was coming out of my mouth and that it was just thoughts. It took me probably a good block and a half to realize I was actually screaming out loud random "can you hear me?" "am i making sounds?" Sure as fuck at least one person heard or saw me and was headfucked by it. I fucking love mushrooms... :1orglaugh

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-15-2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by comeplay (Post 17774810)
I smoked a small amount once among mixed company, the girl before me was tripping so hard (she was kind of crazy to begin with) and i thought she was going to lose it. She almost made me not want to try it. I did, i'm glad I did it was very intense i felt like my entire body was falling into my chair in some dark black time warp hole or something. Felt so heavy. It felt like hours but was probably 2 minutes and i came out of it. Felt off for the rest of the day.

That was my 2nd attempt, the first was regular leaves burned in a bowl with no effect.. this was in more of a long crack pipe piece and i learned you have to constantly flame it, no cherrying at all and you breath in as much as possible and aim to hold it for 2 minutes. You will forget hot long you held it or when or if you exhaled by the time you realize it has hit you.

Ps. I don't think I would compare any part of this trip to acid or shrooms in any way besides feeling "heavy" or "sinking". If anything it was more similar to whippits/nitrous or coricidin/dxm. I would imagine it would be comparable to ketamine aka special K but I have never tried it so can't say for sure.. just the comparison to "out of body experiences" I have read about from it.

I don't know if I'd compare it with Ketamine. K is it's own special little brand of fucked up. Probably the absolute weirdest shit I've ever been high on. Kiss perception good fucking bye. Weirdest trip I've ever been on, by far, was a shitload of Ketamine, a few pills of ecstasy. Not so much visually, but the loss of perception is what comes on heavy with K for me. Time starts warping in strange ways, you forget who you are, why you are where you are, what got you there, what existence is, you'll feel yourself drifting away from your body. All this happens in a very startling strange way. You might be scared if you still knew what fear was. Lots of very complex thought getting tossed around in a blank mind. It's not even something I can accurately explain, but I've done a ton of different chems in the day, and I still say Ketamine was by far the strangest experience...

I remember cruising across the dancefloor in this dingy afterhours club when it hit me fucking hard. Something strange came over me and everything slammed to this slow motion crawl, as I looked down my legs seemed to be moving backwards from me like my torso was separating from my limbs. Then I could feel this weird pull as though my torso was sucking backwards towards my limbs, yet my being continued a forward motion. Tracers like fuck in my vision too. Thats about the best I can do to describe what I felt in words, but trust me it does not do the experience justice at all...


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