why is that article on that site? wikileaks is fucking weird

thanks for the post, it's uncomfortable to think about or discuss these issues but working in the adult industry, we should be properly educated about the CP industry. before reading the article i really had no idea how that industry did or did not relate to ours (other than they are considered scum of the earth and unwelcome in our arena). too many times i have had people in the mainstream world lump our industries together. it isn't easy to explain thoroughly how separate they are considering we both fall under the "sex entertainment" umbrella. there are rogues and criminals in virtually every industry, just as in life. there are a couple of people that i am going to share that article with that often debate me on what i do for a living and throw the "CP card" at me as an arguement for their cause (proving that what i do is completely immoral, illegal or toxic to the world).

Dirty sponsors should be the only ones held legally responsible, not affiliates or visitors.

Want TGP owners to start reviewing documents of each gallery submitted? Want visitor to research documents?

it's right in the first paragraph, he built teen model sits himself

lol can you believe I read that whole article and did not see that line?

I did see this though:

You see the kids grinning a big fun in front of the camera. I know some of these children are now teenagers or have even reached the age of majority. Many regret that they no longer can be models and did not understand why they suddenly no longer were photographed. Even tougher pictures from St. Petersburg show girls in their first voluntary sexual experimentation. Also there you can see that for the girls it is a game and that they had fun. I know that in most cases the mother was informed and that she allowed the daughter to participate. Nobody has suffered, no one has been forced and these were free decisions - why cannot the society simply accept this fact? Even money was not always the driving force. There were certainly girls from very good homes that had no shortage of money. But they had a passion for voyeurism, naked posing, etc. at a very young age

I skimmed your skim, the whole thing is hard on the eyes:disgust

Interesting read.


Thanx

fucking russians.

Sure is a real photo!

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that argument has been going on for years...

part of the issue is that people can stay on death row for years with appeal after appear..

lets bring back public hanging and public stoning for the death penalty and see how fast the serious crimes go down..

in any case, we kicked your ass over 200 years ago for meddling in our business...

worry about how your going to get all your peoples fucked up teeth fixed in your recession... :2 cents:







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Fuckin' americans. There was no such a word as pedophile, before the middle of 90's when these US "tourists" invaded Russia in quest of kids. As you may know Russia had no laws against american hunters for underage kids. Pedophiles in Russia was something like flying sharks in Cleveland. So the country was unprotected. Some of the local criminals have used that situation to sell Russian kids to the american pedophiles, because there was a huge demand from the US tourists and no serious punishment against it in the Russian law. This is how it was done.

Thanks to the Russian government which has added the necessary articles to the Law and was catching the tourists of The Land of Pedo almost every day. I will try to find some of those official police videos of the US citizens caught for children molestation in Russia. Can I post them here? The faces of these american bastards are shown very well...

Calm down, it's your corrupt ass criminally operated govermet that harbors the biz. Where else are the professional child molesters going to go? :1orglaugh

I believe that is a bit part of how CCBILL started out they billed all the lolitas sites with softcore under 18 models and they hosted them on cavecreek

You have to agree it does help prevent re-offending :)

One of the industry's dirty little secrets. As well as ccbill some of the programs went "legit" and still continue today.

Another was that many "reputable" programs started with stolen content in the 90's (and for some we've come full circle)

What else?

I have the same feeling when I see people here posting their '3D' digital teen (and even pre-teen) porn, or even some of the really young looking 'barely legal' stuff which is very illegal even to have a trace of on your harddrive in 90% of the world outside of the USA.

10 years ago in Europe, the minimum age for porn was 16. Weren't too many people complaining at the time. I can't recall one european adult company that had problems with it, or took a moral stand on it. Why should they have when it was perfectly legal (and in line with the age of consent)?

I came to the realization long ago that judgemental misinformed idiots like that aren't worth knowing much less arguing/debating with them. They mostly aren't interested in the truth of the matter and would prefer to wallow in their ignorance.

Am I really seeing two seventeen banners in your sig???

Ignore the fact that Russians drive the child porn industry and instead blame Americans who came to Russia to fuck kids who were being pimped by their Russian parents. Of course the fact that Russia didn't even have a law about it probably tells you all you need to know about all the kid fucking going on in Russia back then. There are now and always will be pedophiles everywhere. Don't be naive in thinking your people never fucked kids before the Americans came. They've been fucking them since the beginning of humanity.


Point is, it takes two to tango.

I don't think 2257 is strict. It's not even enforced. :2 cents:


It is fun to say GOD DAMMED RUSSIANS!


Wikileaks leaks anonymous info that is given to them. This letter was an anonymous letter written to them from someone in the child porn business.

Internet is full of info

Yes you do since I am the affiliate manager for Payserve which has Seventeen the print magazine, Club Seventeen our highest converting site, Seventeen Video and Seventeen Live

so yeah, you're seeing 2 Seventeen Hearts in my sig :)

Lots of wrong facts in this article. I.e they write "in Germany, the Bravo magazine has for decades reprinted pictures of naked girls and boys for the purpose of sexual enlightenment."

In fact Bravo is the number one source for teens to receive sexual education. When schools and parents were lacking the skills to educate kids about sexuality and how kids are created, Bravo's Doctor Sommer filled the gap. There was no explicit nudity or porn in this magazine. It was teens in panties at best and not porn in any way.

Now, this is wrong!

What an extremely interesting read. Thanks for posting.

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Wrong. Even newspapers like 'Das Bild' published nude photos of under 18s nearly every day. In the UK, the Sun became the paper we know and love today by rescuing it's circulation figures through publishing topless pictures of 16 year olds, including the most popular page 3 girl in history - samamtha fox.

Well, the reason why even those banners are technically child porn, and why I now have to apply window washer to my computer after viewing them if I don't want a few months of showerrape, is because of the same spurious logic that you just supported.

So CCBILL is a Russian company? And all the millions who bought memberships were Russians?

What do you guys think of sites like this : http://theync.com/ that juxtapose images of beheaded Iraqies, mangled car crash victims, American high school kids ripping each other to pieces in videoed fights, and - if you're willing to pay - apparently real rape videos.

All hosted on American Servers. But hey, it's perfectly legal.

Probably a few of you are going to e-mail the webmaster for a hard link trade.

not american accents >>> http://theync.com/media.php?name=19211-what-the-hell

Very American accents :
http://theync.com/media.php?name=19185-bad-bitches

Clearly under 18, clearly me watching it promotes the production of more videos like that, but no nudity or even hint of a sexual context, so fully legal in the US of A. Feel free to trade links with this guy, the site probably gets a zillion hits a day. The FBI probably jerk off to it themselves.

This guy is into child porn, it becomes clearer and clearer the more you read.

I hope you're not refferring to me Paul. Prepare for hell to break loose if you are.

Yes, he obviously knows a bit too much.

Uhhhh, no. Who said CCbill was Russian?

The article is very clear on Russians collecting all of this CP to resell it.

My guess is you're Russian?

im a rapper

Sites that like are horrible. You'd have to be disturbed to want to look at that sort of thing.

No, just don't like blanket racism.

My favorite childhood movie. Maybe its time to eat some acid and watch it again.

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Seems to me the wikileaks guy is pointing out the American puritism and hysteria over teenage sex. In that respect, I agree 100% with him.

16 year olds in hardcore sex videos, 14 year olds in scantily clad 'glamour photography[ - all that was legal in Europe as well as Russia only 10 years ago, and very few people had a problem with either viewing it, or making money from it. It's fucking hilarious, if a little disturbing, seeing the americans here getting on their high horse and screaming death to foreign perverts and then no doubt checking their 'is she really legal' 18 stats and screaming that they haven't made a sale.

Now, ironically, being an adult webmaster in the UK or Europe is a very risky buisness, because there's a question mark over the legal status of those American barely legal sites, and the virtual toon porn is definately illegal, even to pass through your browser.