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2012 12-15-2010 06:04 AM

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CaptainHowdy 12-15-2010 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17772429)
I guess that would depend on if you're into online child porn or not. :upsidedow

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2012 12-15-2010 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17774923)

two strangers passing, a moment ... in fuckin life.

TheDA 12-15-2010 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 17774888)
i hope you're not refferring to me paul. Prepare for hell to break loose if you are.

lol :)

CaptainHowdy 12-15-2010 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012 (Post 17774920)

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DWB 12-15-2010 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 17774902)
No, just don't like blanket racism.

Well don't get your skirt wrinkled, I dislike everyone equally.

DWB 12-15-2010 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 17774919)
16 year olds in hardcore sex videos, 14 year olds in scantily clad 'glamour photography[ - all that was legal in Europe as well as Russia only 10 years ago, and very few people had a problem with either viewing it, or making money from it. It's fucking hilarious, if a little disturbing, seeing the americans here getting on their high horse and screaming death to foreign perverts and then no doubt checking their 'is she really legal' 18 stats and screaming that they haven't made a sale.

You won't get a debate out of me on that one. I agree with you 100%.

2012 12-15-2010 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17774937)

i see what you mean. have you called scooby doo ?

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spazlabz 12-15-2010 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cordoba (Post 17774688)
Well, the reason why even those banners are technically child porn, and why I now have to apply window washer to my computer after viewing them if I don't want a few months of showerrape, is because of the same spurious logic that you just supported.

:1orglaugh
you cant be serious right?

Elliot Caine 12-15-2010 06:42 AM

I love how both sides use sweeping generalizations and assumptions on how they conduct themselves.

Does the word exploitation come to mind at all? I was top of my class growing up and I did plenty of dumb things based on lack of experience, not intelligence. Thankfully, one of them wasn't posing in front of a camera when I was 15.


What makes you guys think Americans and Russians are different in terms of how we are wired? Do you think human beings have a different type of biology because they are from a different country? Do you honestly think we are all wired that differently?

Child pornography isn't limited to a country or a class of citizen. Its a problem that involves the EXPLOITATION OF MINORS across the world. Why? Because I don't care what your stupid fucking law says, a 15 year old does not have the right amount of experience in life to know exactly what they are doing at the time. Thats why they shouldn't do it.

Using semantics and reading into gray lines just to support your sick fascination with an unhealthy habit is tantomount to assault against minors in my eyes.

That entire article is a passion piece on why CP is misunderstood. Fuck him and his convuloted elitist bullshit. I don't care what type of education you THINK you may have, you are still a scum fuck that just tried to rationalize CP (Directed at the author of this article).


Some of my favorite choice passages from the article -

"The question we should ask is: what kind of a decent life can the society provide for the pedophiles? It is a mistake to believe that pedophiles are monsters. If one is heterosexual, he does not fall over every woman. One is also not in love in every woman. A gay man does not rape every man he sees on the street. It is similar for the pedophiles, they do not feel attracted by every child and even find children sometimes antipathic. The media is world-class in undifferentiating reports."

"The criminalization of child pornography is one of the most stupid decisions ever made - for various reasons. First, the costs of prosecution for possession of child pornography are enormous for the state and often very little results are achieved and after all nothing can be changed about the actual fact that the crime has been committed. A friend's home was searched and had all his computers and 4500 video cassettes - on which he for years had recorded movies - taken. It took 2 years to work through them all and in the process a huge sum of taxpayers' money was spent FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Because he had recorded TV movies on the video tapes! Germany is very rich, making expensive proceedings for child pornography. Put those who write horror stories and one-sided descriptions in the jail so that it becomes really expensive to the taxpayer [?]. Germany has enough money, so let's just do it.

Secondly, it is justified by the argument that viewing of a child porn picture harms the child. How? The actual exploitation has happened a long time ago! "




Personally for me, I think we should punish the producers of child porn worse that we do rapists. FUCK ALL OF YOU that live in a fantasy land where you think 14 year olds have free will and choice. Seriously, kill yourself.

spazlabz 12-15-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot Caine (Post 17774984)
I love how both sides use sweeping generalizations and assumptions on how they conduct themselves.

Does the word exploitation come to mind at all? I was top of my class growing up and I did plenty of dumb things based on lack of experience, not intelligence. Thankfully, one of them wasn't posing in front of a camera when I was 15.


What makes you guys think Americans and Russians are different in terms of how we are wired? Do you think human beings have a different type of biology because they are from a different country? Do you honestly think we are all wired that differently?

Child pornography isn't limited to a country or a class of citizen. Its a problem that involves the EXPLOITATION OF MINORS across the world. Why? Because I don't care what your stupid fucking law says, a 15 year old does not have the right amount of experience in life to know exactly what they are doing at the time. Thats why they shouldn't do it.

Using semantics and reading into gray lines just to support your sick fascination with an unhealthy habit is tantomount to assault against minors in my eyes.

That entire article is a passion piece on why CP is misunderstood. Fuck him and his convuloted elitist bullshit. I don't care what type of education you THINK you may have, you are still a scum fuck that just tried to rationalize CP (Directed at the author of this article).


Some of my favorite choice passages from the article -

"The question we should ask is: what kind of a decent life can the society provide for the pedophiles? It is a mistake to believe that pedophiles are monsters. If one is heterosexual, he does not fall over every woman. One is also not in love in every woman. A gay man does not rape every man he sees on the street. It is similar for the pedophiles, they do not feel attracted by every child and even find children sometimes antipathic. The media is world-class in undifferentiating reports."

"The criminalization of child pornography is one of the most stupid decisions ever made - for various reasons. First, the costs of prosecution for possession of child pornography are enormous for the state and often very little results are achieved and after all nothing can be changed about the actual fact that the crime has been committed. A friend's home was searched and had all his computers and 4500 video cassettes - on which he for years had recorded movies - taken. It took 2 years to work through them all and in the process a huge sum of taxpayers' money was spent FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Because he had recorded TV movies on the video tapes! Germany is very rich, making expensive proceedings for child pornography. Put those who write horror stories and one-sided descriptions in the jail so that it becomes really expensive to the taxpayer [?]. Germany has enough money, so let's just do it.

Secondly, it is justified by the argument that viewing of a child porn picture harms the child. How? The actual exploitation has happened a long time ago! "




Personally for me, I think we should punish the producers of child porn worse that we do rapists. FUCK ALL OF YOU that live in a fantasy land where you think 14 year olds have free will and choice. Seriously, kill yourself.

QFT and an excellently stated opinion :thumbsup:thumbsup

MaDalton 12-15-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 17774441)
Lots of wrong facts in this article. I.e they write "in Germany, the Bravo magazine has for decades reprinted pictures of naked girls and boys for the purpose of sexual enlightenment."

In fact Bravo is the number one source for teens to receive sexual education. When schools and parents were lacking the skills to educate kids about sexuality and how kids are created, Bravo's Doctor Sommer filled the gap. There was no explicit nudity or porn in this magazine. It was teens in panties at best and not porn in any way.

not quite correct, Bravo prints pictures of fully naked teens between 14 and 18 - but in an educational way. nowadays.

25-30 years back they were much more "sexy" and i quite enjoyed that at that time :glugglug

DWB 12-15-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot Caine (Post 17774984)
What makes you guys think Americans and Russians are different in terms of how we are wired? Do you think human beings have a different type of biology because they are from a different country? Do you honestly think we are all wired that differently?

I have 2 words for Russians: Indiana Jones

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;-)

ShellyCrash 12-15-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot Caine (Post 17774984)
That entire article is a passion piece on why CP is misunderstood. Fuck him and his convuloted elitist bullshit. I don't care what type of education you THINK you may have, you are still a scum fuck that just tried to rationalize CP (Directed at the author of this article).


Perfectly put response. Reading over the Wikileaks article reminds me alot of something Pete Townshend said after he got busted for CP:

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...the pathway to 'free' paedophilic imagery is--as it were--laid out like a free line of cocaine at a decadent cocktail party: only the strong willed or terminally uncurious can resist.

Bullshit. CP is only irresistable to the terminally fucked. I absolutely disagree with decriminalizing it's posession. Some parts send shivvers down your spine when mentoning that some of the kids were smiling and laughing the whole time, didn't understand why when they got older they stopped being photographed, etc. Expoitation is exploitation, so what if you made it a game and gave them a lollypop afterwards... children are easy to fool, trick and decieve- that's expressly why we must have laws to protect them. :disgust

biris 12-15-2010 09:52 AM

I don't think that the point is Russians or Americans or Europeans.
The problem is out there and we (the professionals) have to be more proactive about it.

CaptainHowdy 12-15-2010 09:54 AM

So Mr. X is basically all for hebephilia (as I stated with my "Death In Venice" screenshot), not for paedophilia? He ultimately sounds unapologetic for teenager girls posing nude...

Elliot Caine 12-15-2010 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17775395)
Perfectly put response. Reading over the Wikileaks article reminds me alot of something Pete Townshend said after he got busted for CP:



"Townshend later explained he was sexually abused as a child and, in preparation of a possible autobiography, he was researching how easily child pornography can be accessed online, in order to argue that Internet service providers need to become more vigilant. ?It must be time to do something more concrete to stop the proliferation of questionable pornography that seems so readily and openly facilitated by the Internet,? he later wrote about the experience."

this is @csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2010/0205/At-Super-Bowl-The-Who-s-Townshend-dogged-by-child-porn-arrest



See you've got it wrong (/sarcasm)


He wasn't looking at child porn, he was doing research. :throwup


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