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JFK 12-17-2010 02:12 PM
100.........Roads to ruin

Quote:
Originally Posted by beerptrol (Post 17779932)

Vjo 12-17-2010 02:15 PM
101 angry guys :)

lazycash 12-17-2010 02:22 PM
First this:

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17781518)
LOL With that we'll call it a truce for now.
Then this:

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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17781522)
BTW what is "mom" cooking us for dinner. If i had a woman to do all the house work, laundry, groceries, cooking, dusting, ect ect ect Id be a millionaire. :)

What is your excuse?
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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17781547)
How many times you see me asking anyone for anything?

Fucking board boy.

You wouldnt last one month in my shoes. You would be in tears.
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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17781611)
And if you dont like me posting videos then start your own board.

My threads had a lot of time put into them. I dont show up in every thread.

When I posted the Oswald Poll I gave the members here thanks for voting by posting a whole bunch of pics history ect. It took me two days.

Same with Top 20 My Hottest Babe thread, And my Hottest Avatar thread. And more.

The members know the cat is as hard a worker and as big hearted a guy as ever will be on this board.

I think the mgmt enjoys my stuff frankly. :)
So YOU leave or else leave me alone.

Ya know I once jumped you. And I was wrong. I apologized. It was a misunderstanding. Before I posted today I wondered is he going to go off?

Ya lunkhead I was trying to mend bridges. I thought we could talk about the $800. Instead YOU go off on me.

Like an old pizza guy. I never throw the first punch but corner me and ill tear the hinges off the door getting out and maybe take you with me.

I have a lot of anger in me. Truth is, I saw hell. Beware of the guy who :) all the time. :)
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Originally Posted by Vjo (Post 17781666)
I guess we all are supposed to spend all day having no fun, no videos, dead serious all the time, make sure our text is right, spend all day trying to destroy the other guy which as we all know is all Lazy ever does.

Read my last 50 posts. All full of honest tips for fellow affils to help them, along with some vids yes. Things dont have to be dead serious all the time. Some of us get inspired by music. The vids are for us.

Read LC's last 50 posts. All up someones ass trying to destroy them. Not one tip for anyone.

I came to the board and only to this thread, I had a couple jokes. I felt bad Dave is going under. This is not happy to me. I told a couple stories. cherrylula gets the humor and reponds, I post a vid.

Things were going great here till YOU got bitchy.

You leave.

Wow, you got some serious issues dude, feels like alienq all over again.

Vjo 12-17-2010 02:27 PM
Have a good day all.

Lazycash, go fuck yourself with a cactus.

Peace out and big signups.

BlackCrayon 12-17-2010 02:39 PM
crash and http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...kelso_burn.gif

Vjo 12-17-2010 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17781710)
First this:



Then this:










Wow, you got some serious issues dude, feels like alienq all over again.
Only issue is with YOU. Only guy in two years who had a real prob with me.

I know when shit is real. I let it all roll off 99.99 %. But with you it is real.

After today, no NOT troll me.

UNLESS

you want to be my little poster boy. Cauae I love to fucking post LC.

Turn this into a party thread. :) I need some punk to keep me company. I am alone ya know. :)

What are your fav vids? Do you listen to music Lazycash? Or did you never really get music? Does music annoy you?

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh he posted a zep video in another fucking Dave thread



complain you twit, look into me and all the shit twits do

mrsexkey 12-17-2010 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17780028)
and I thought the tubes ruined their business and the fact that an AVS site these days is about as relevant as a VHS tape.
Not looking to threadjack, and definitely not this thread given its high level of positivity.... But not all AVS sites are in dire straits that we are all relegated to VHS status... DVD maybe :)

-Hank

Vjo 12-17-2010 02:59 PM
Serious question, this is what set me off..

What kind of guy are you to tell another working affil to "leave the board"?

That is fucking rude buddy. Dont tell people who make a living in adult to leave the board. Who the fuck are you.


ShellyCrash 12-17-2010 03:02 PM
Let's try to put this train back on the rails...

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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17779901)
So, anyone who complains publicly about not getting paid can be blocked, if they are not already, and forfeits all money they have earned?
That's not the shittiest change in TOS I've seen, but still pretty shady IMO.

I don't think any program enjoys when webmasters bring something to the boards, I feel them on that- 9 times out of 10 it's a blown out misunderstanding that could have been handled with a simple email or ICQ.... but board posts get results, it's the culture we've created.

An affiliate's account balance is revenue they've worked for, it's their fucking paycheck. If someone works for you in an office, puts in a 9 to 5, and calls you an asshole at the end of the week- sure you get to fire that person, but you don't get to shred their paycheck.

Every company has the right to choose who they do and do not do biz with, but to hold earnings hostage.. that shit is just beyond petty. :2 cents:

Vjo 12-17-2010 03:14 PM
in 1999 someone posted all my personal info. I left the boards right then for 8 years.

I am going nowhere this time.

Post it. I will have you banned then I will post even more about myself including my middle name and size of my cock before I drill you a new asshole.

That shit pissed me off and if I ever find out who the fucken coward was.. cmon out today and admit it.

Lets talk about it today.

Sorry, I am sensitive when anyone tries to muscle me.

i'm not afraid anymore

lazycash 12-17-2010 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17781773)
Let's try to put this train back on the rails...



That's not the shittiest change in TOS I've seen, but still pretty shady IMO.

I don't think any program enjoys when webmasters bring something to the boards, I feel them on that- 9 times out of 10 it's a blown out misunderstanding that could have been handled with a simple email or ICQ.... but board posts get results, it's the culture we've created.

An affiliate's account balance is revenue they've worked for, it's their fucking paycheck. If someone works for you in an office, puts in a 9 to 5, and calls you an asshole at the end of the week- sure you get to fire that person, but you don't get to shred their paycheck.

Every company has the right to choose who they do and do not do biz with, but to hold earnings hostage.. that shit is just beyond petty. :2 cents:
Yeah I can understand why programs don't want affiliates running to the boards when most of the time its a simple misunderstanding that can be worked out directly between them. However, in this case, Dave not only chose to cancel affiliates without an explanation, but ignored emails from them asking what was going on. He left them with no choice but to go to the boards, and then ignored threads by them asking what was going on. Now it just looks like he changed the TOS so he'd have justification to keep monies owed.

ShellyCrash 12-17-2010 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17781794)
Yeah I can understand why programs don't want affiliates running to the boards when most of the time its a simple misunderstanding that can be worked out directly between them. However, in this case, Dave not only chose to cancel affiliates without an explanation, but ignored emails from them asking what was going on. He left them with no choice but to go to the boards, and then ignored threads by them asking what was going on. Now it just looks like he changed the TOS so he'd have justification to keep monies owed.
Agreed. Shame things are ending this way and couldn't have gone out on a high note. :(

signupdamnit 12-17-2010 04:26 PM
If you notice he's continuously blaming his victims. He's also trying to scare them into not talking with threats of lawsuits. A psychologist would have a field day.

I felt sorry for him at first but it's hard to when someone continues on in this way.

Tempest 12-17-2010 04:46 PM
That change in the TOS ranks way up at the top as one of the most moronic things someone has ever done in this biz and that's saying a lot.

bigluv 12-17-2010 05:40 PM
Don't be silly. The way things are these days, that TOS change is the work of a brilliant fucking mastermind.
what a joke

Holly Lez! 12-17-2010 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17781124)
Cool stuff! I like :thumbsup

faxxaff 12-17-2010 07:34 PM
I emailed Dave to keep my paycheck as he needs the funds more than I do. Don't want to get stuck with NSF fees, anyhow. He was so polite to write back 'thank you' and wished me a Merry Christmas and HNY. A semi-nice guy at the end, but no apology.

Ethersync 12-17-2010 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 17782261)
I emailed Dave to keep my paycheck as he needs the funds more than I do. Don't want to get stuck with NSF fees, anyhow. He was so polite to write back 'thank you' and wished me a Merry Christmas and HNY. A semi-nice guy at the end, but no apology.
He actually thanked you when you told him to keep the money YOU earned and he refused to pay you? Ha.

jscott 12-17-2010 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17782314)
He actually thanked you when you told him to keep the money YOU earned and he refused to pay you? Ha.
That's how true scumbags roll :disgust

lazycash 12-17-2010 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17782314)
He actually thanked you when you told him to keep the money YOU earned and he refused to pay you? Ha.
I'm sure after the tos change, Dave figures he no longer owes him.

nekrom 12-18-2010 07:08 AM
If this is the shenanigans and hijinks programs are playing in 2010, I cant wait to see what next year brings. :)

-N

topnotch, standup guy 12-18-2010 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 17782684)
If this is the shenanigans and hijinks programs are playing in 2010, I cant wait to see what next year brings. :)

-N
It's in times like these that we get to peek under the mask and see what people are really like.

Sometimes the revelation isn't all that ugly.

All too many times it is.
.

signupdamnit 12-18-2010 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 17782684)
If this is the shenanigans and hijinks programs are playing in 2010, I cant wait to see what next year brings. :)

-N
I think I'm going to be even more careful about who I trust from here on out.

cherrylula 12-18-2010 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17782864)
I think I'm going to be even more careful about who I trust from here on out.
Trust no one.

It's not what people say, it's what they do.

cherrylula 12-18-2010 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nekrom (Post 17782684)
If this is the shenanigans and hijinks programs are playing in 2010, I cant wait to see what next year brings. :)

-N
Adult companies have been burning webmasters for millions of dollars since like 98. lol. This is just another notch on the tally.

Far-L 12-18-2010 12:26 PM
Any affiliates getting burned by that TOS change should talk to an attorney if they have any sort of money at stake. Or just go to small claims if necessary. The only place on the planet I imagine that is legal to do would be Venezuela if Chavez decrees it to be so on a whim.

ottopottomouse 12-18-2010 01:33 PM
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18. Any correspondence or actions arising from disputes under this agreement are confidential and shall not be disclosed to third parties including publication on pubic or private forums or message boards. Any unauthorized disclosure will result in account termination and forfeiture of outstanding commissions as well as appropriate legal action.
The way that's worded only seems to cover quoting any correspondence. Calling someone out because you are being ignored would be fine.

will76 12-18-2010 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsexkey (Post 17781752)
Not looking to threadjack, and definitely not this thread given its high level of positivity.... But not all AVS sites are in dire straits that we are all relegated to VHS status... DVD maybe :)

-Hank
Hey Hank, sounds like you guys are about to be the last man standing. :thumbsup

PXN 12-18-2010 02:49 PM
This is why I love gfy. It's the only place where people can hold affiliate program accountable.

SexKey Scott 12-18-2010 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17783141)
Hey Hank, sounds like you guys are about to be the last man standing. :thumbsup
:thumbsup:thumbsup

arock10 12-18-2010 03:10 PM
another one bites the dust. but hey its almost 2011 so I guess 2010 didnt kill us all

The Porn Nerd 12-18-2010 05:07 PM
Wow - late to this drama, and the dramas-within-dramas, as it were.

Everyone shouldn't take shit so damn seriously - UNLESS you lost money, then I am sympathetic to you and your dilemma.

ONE QUESTION TO CYBERAGE DAVE, CHRIS MALLICK ET AL:
Don't you dumbass fucktards ever DIVERSIFY and put away some cash for a rainy day? Hey dudes: IT'S RAINING. IRA anyone? How about Annuities? No? Coke, 'ho's and cars instead? Okay!

Jesus Christmas.

Ethersync 12-18-2010 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 17783131)
The way that's worded only seems to cover quoting any correspondence. Calling someone out because you are being ignored would be fine.
Actually, it says "or actions arising from disputes" so I think that is meant to mean you can't talk publicly about any actions they take against you. Presumably that includes actions like not sending checks though it's unclear if that includes lack of action like not replying to emails and not sending a check while not receiving any notification from them that you have violated their agreement is also a lack of action so you should be able to call them out publicly here for that and not be in breach :)

cgu 12-18-2010 10:58 PM
New CyberGays TOS, everyone has to pay $1000 or 1.5 * their monthly revenues, which ever is more or default on their earnings and rebills and be banned from the program. Also, if you are wearing any clothing made of cotton you are automatically removed from our system. If its raining anywhere in your state you owe us $50 in the month of December. If the sun sets in the west today your checks will be shredded instead of mailed. Each time you log into your webmaster panel we will deduct one new sale and 10 rebills from your stats. For each email to support we charge you $15 in processing fees. All remaining webmasters will pay $10,000 yearly to remain in our new platinum only program and pay for all company lambo and ferrari oil changes.

sounds more like a Kardasian prepaid debit card.

faxxaff 12-19-2010 07:21 AM
Actually, when I think back, this was on the horizon about a year ago. Back then I stopped receiving emails from Cyberage about new sales, but I still had transactions on my stats. As long as I was able to access stats, I thought the sales emails ended up in spam and I did not bother. Thinking back I believe it must have been a expedited scam by Cyberage to phase out affiliate payments by not letting people know about transactions in the first place - then go offline with stats bit by bit to go unnoticed when webmasters were cut off from stats and pay. That was a solid plan. It's so transparent

RFremont 12-20-2010 05:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 17783039)
Any affiliates getting burned by that TOS change should talk to an attorney if they have any sort of money at stake. Or just go to small claims if necessary. The only place on the planet I imagine that is legal to do would be Venezuela if Chavez decrees it to be so on a whim.

What he said; this is really one of the most egregious acts of dishonesty and theft and that's saying a lot. Changing a TOS to censor people from publically complaining about not getting paid? Fucking kidding me?

signupdamnit 12-20-2010 05:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RFremont (Post 17787824)
What he said; this is really one of the most egregious acts of dishonesty and theft and that's saying a lot. Changing a TOS to censor people from publically complaining about not getting paid? Fucking kidding me?
It's a sort of God complex. When you see it makes you sad that you even sent them one click in the past and helped them build their business. There are many out there just like him. Watch out. :2 cents:

ShellyCrash 12-20-2010 11:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 17782261)
I emailed Dave to keep my paycheck as he needs the funds more than I do. Don't want to get stuck with NSF fees, anyhow. He was so polite to write back 'thank you' and wished me a Merry Christmas and HNY. A semi-nice guy at the end, but no apology.

Wow. That's kinda sad :Oh crap

jscott 12-21-2010 02:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 17784163)
Actually, when I think back, this was on the horizon about a year ago. Back then I stopped receiving emails from Cyberage about new sales, but I still had transactions on my stats. As long as I was able to access stats, I thought the sales emails ended up in spam and I did not bother. Thinking back I believe it must have been a expedited scam by Cyberage to phase out affiliate payments by not letting people know about transactions in the first place - then go offline with stats bit by bit to go unnoticed when webmasters were cut off from stats and pay. That was a solid plan. It's so transparent
He is quite the 1-sided marketing genious! :thumbsup hahhaha

and yes, ShellyCrash, that is sad, that he's gone this low, CyberageDave = scumbag now

kristin 12-21-2010 06:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 17782261)
I emailed Dave to keep my paycheck as he needs the funds more than I do. Don't want to get stuck with NSF fees, anyhow. He was so polite to write back 'thank you' and wished me a Merry Christmas and HNY. A semi-nice guy at the end, but no apology.
No way ... Wow.

So did Dave have a partner or was that an excuse?

Heywood Jablome 12-21-2010 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jscott (Post 17789439)
CyberageDave = scumbag now
Very sad, until recently I had considered him the most honest guy in the biz.


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