If this is the shenanigans and hijinks programs are playing in 2010, I cant wait to see what next year brings. :)

-N

It's in times like these that we get to peek under the mask and see what people are really like.

Sometimes the revelation isn't all that ugly.

All too many times it is.
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I think I'm going to be even more careful about who I trust from here on out.

Trust no one.

It's not what people say, it's what they do.

Adult companies have been burning webmasters for millions of dollars since like 98. lol. This is just another notch on the tally.

Any affiliates getting burned by that TOS change should talk to an attorney if they have any sort of money at stake. Or just go to small claims if necessary. The only place on the planet I imagine that is legal to do would be Venezuela if Chavez decrees it to be so on a whim.

The way that's worded only seems to cover quoting any correspondence. Calling someone out because you are being ignored would be fine.

Hey Hank, sounds like you guys are about to be the last man standing. :thumbsup

This is why I love gfy. It's the only place where people can hold affiliate program accountable.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

another one bites the dust. but hey its almost 2011 so I guess 2010 didnt kill us all

Wow - late to this drama, and the dramas-within-dramas, as it were.

Everyone shouldn't take shit so damn seriously - UNLESS you lost money, then I am sympathetic to you and your dilemma.

ONE QUESTION TO CYBERAGE DAVE, CHRIS MALLICK ET AL:
Don't you dumbass fucktards ever DIVERSIFY and put away some cash for a rainy day? Hey dudes: IT'S RAINING. IRA anyone? How about Annuities? No? Coke, 'ho's and cars instead? Okay!

Jesus Christmas.

Actually, it says "or actions arising from disputes" so I think that is meant to mean you can't talk publicly about any actions they take against you. Presumably that includes actions like not sending checks though it's unclear if that includes lack of action like not replying to emails and not sending a check while not receiving any notification from them that you have violated their agreement is also a lack of action so you should be able to call them out publicly here for that and not be in breach :)

New CyberGays TOS, everyone has to pay $1000 or 1.5 * their monthly revenues, which ever is more or default on their earnings and rebills and be banned from the program. Also, if you are wearing any clothing made of cotton you are automatically removed from our system. If its raining anywhere in your state you owe us $50 in the month of December. If the sun sets in the west today your checks will be shredded instead of mailed. Each time you log into your webmaster panel we will deduct one new sale and 10 rebills from your stats. For each email to support we charge you $15 in processing fees. All remaining webmasters will pay $10,000 yearly to remain in our new platinum only program and pay for all company lambo and ferrari oil changes.

sounds more like a Kardasian prepaid debit card.

Actually, when I think back, this was on the horizon about a year ago. Back then I stopped receiving emails from Cyberage about new sales, but I still had transactions on my stats. As long as I was able to access stats, I thought the sales emails ended up in spam and I did not bother. Thinking back I believe it must have been a expedited scam by Cyberage to phase out affiliate payments by not letting people know about transactions in the first place - then go offline with stats bit by bit to go unnoticed when webmasters were cut off from stats and pay. That was a solid plan. It's so transparent

What he said; this is really one of the most egregious acts of dishonesty and theft and that's saying a lot. Changing a TOS to censor people from publically complaining about not getting paid? Fucking kidding me?

It's a sort of God complex. When you see it makes you sad that you even sent them one click in the past and helped them build their business. There are many out there just like him. Watch out. :2 cents:

Wow. That's kinda sad :Oh crap

He is quite the 1-sided marketing genious! :thumbsup hahhaha

and yes, ShellyCrash, that is sad, that he's gone this low, CyberageDave = scumbag now

No way ... Wow.

So did Dave have a partner or was that an excuse?

Very sad, until recently I had considered him the most honest guy in the biz.