whatever bike you buy, please sign your organ donor card. it will make someone (or more than one someone) happy some point in the future.

there's always an anti-bike retard who has to chime in with their shitty outlook on life.

I started on a 600 CBR and learned, loved it, painted it, rode it into the ground sold it.

Now I own the green Ninja posted earlier. 250 is all I need in a remote beach home.

Get the 600+ imo if youre in a resonably safe urban environment.

Def. keep the fear and don;t get too comfortable. Thats when accident happen.

I would go with a harley sportster just for the resale value

i'm not so sure i agree with the riding in fear advice. it's more about confidence of skills and awareness.

I ride with my eyes closed because it is so scary out there.

start with a 125cc
Don't get a fast bike if you have no experience, or this is what will (probably) happen:
http://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/wor...le-crash-2.jpg :Oh crap

Honda shadows are actually great bikes to learn on:
http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl...oq=&gs_rf ai=

this is what i want next:
http://i.imgur.com/4RRKM.jpg

get used to the road, the danger comes mostly from other people ( driving cars)
i would give it 6 month then get a bigger one
:2 cents:
Good luck

These are cooler than any rice grinder, inexpensive and an easy bike for a beginner.


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http://juliablue.com/xmas_3234_tn.jpg

One of mine too. Sold it for an RC51 that my ex ended up with. I'm gona try and find another this spring.

Great bike for anyone who likes to ride. Beginners included.

Ya practice, hone your skills, I totally agree. what I mean by don't get too comfortable.

Careful of the little old lady abruptly changing lanes or the semi spitting huge trunks of tire treads. Be aware of whos around you and don't sit next to vehicles.

Leave the bike in gear at lights and space between cars so you don't get sandwhiched ny a drunk driver.

Slow down for EVERY intersection.

It could save your life by not getting too comfy while riding. As in life hope for the best but expect the worst and be prepared. I've seen / been aqaunted with 1 dead riders and another confined to a wheelchair for life. Both involved alcohol and speeding down residential streets.

Cars simply pulled out in front of them at intersections... and boom. they were both teens.

Who gave you that advice?

the vmax was the bike of my wet teenage dreams - although i kind of remember the first one looked a bit smaller than the actual one

but i always ended up driving enduros and since i never did really long trips i found them perfect for me

It's been so long I forget. But I often catch myself in neutral, breaking my own rule. Then again if it's a weekend party night i'm more aware of what's pulling up behind me.

Ya im pretty much a worry wart rider. 2 young kids that want bikes doesnt help.

Your "rule" is as wrong as can be. :2 cents:

Me and my GF own a buell xb 9 sx great handling not too much power but enough to have a great time and a v-twin sound, they probaly don't cost shit in the UShttp://www.i-worx.nl/gar/buell.jpg




i also love this bike but its about 50K US dollars
http://www.motogpromagna.com/images/...ter_strada.jpg

A friend of me bought one in Cambodia and drove it all the way back to the Netherlands something like 10.000 miles, but these thing are pieces of crap, only ment for cheap transportation.

The bikes are extremely inexpensive and it made it from Cambodia to NL. How many times did it break down?

royal enfield= king, but it's not sportsbike :-P

http://faimg1.forum-auto.com/mesimag...88/CG%2013.JPG

not a sportbike either.

im not sure but i dont think it broke down at all, he even drove it with his GF on the back.

They are very cheap, getting the bike registered in The Netherlands cost almost as much as the new bike, damn taxes here!

Curious as to why you think it's wrong? Pretty much every riding school I know of teaches keep it in gear.

Rear foot on back brake, in gear, left foot on ground. If you have to accelerate to avoid a collision you're ready to go.

You once said you though beanie helmets were safer than full face helmets too which is absurd. I'd love to hear how you have this one figured.

I agree -- obviously you know better than the MSF since you've been riding since the invention of the motorcycle.

ya, what he said!

I guess I will have to ask my son and goodgirl what they were taught, but my reason is simple.

If you are sitting at a red light in gear, there are many things that can happen that would cause the clutch to engage. Things like cables breaking. I am sure you have heard of a "suicide clutch." That is because it was considered suicide to sit at a red light in gear hoping the clutch did not somehow engage.

I have experienced it and I have seen it happen to others. I remember asking some guy on a bike what time it was while we were stopped at a light. He twisted his arm to look at his watch and lost his grip on the clutch lever. Luckily, there was no cross traffic in the lane he ended up in.

Doesn't sound like a piece of crap to me. :upsidedow I would not mind owning one for cruising along the beach.

Ahh yes well you see modern brakes will hold the bike and it will just stall if something happens to the clutch. Do modern Harleys not use hydrolic clutches? Don't most modern bikes?

It just makes sense to me. How often do you think people get rearended by inattentive traffic, or involved in a multiple vehicle pile up when someone gets rearended behind them versus how many times clutches fail and bikes shoot out in to insersections? I'm fairly certain one happens more often than the other.

So i ended up getting a 200cc Kawasaki Ninja bike... lets see how it goes, if i die please attend the funeral lol

thanks !

To be honest, I do not feel leaving my bike in gear is a very effective way of avoiding being rearended. I think wedging myself between two cars takes care of that quite sufficiently.

How you can watch behind you well enough to be able to determine the car is not going to stop and that you should chance it with cross traffic is beyond me.

i always split the lane waiting at a red light. safest spot at the intersection.

Well, I always do when I can, but there are not always cars in front of me. :upsidedow

I just run lights. Full face lid means no ticket!

Glad someone said it! best bit of advice

he probably bought a knock off bike...

Vietnamese are doing is with Vespa, they are ALL OVER eBay selling fake shit



Great pick! now post pics!

http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/Rock...09_510x347.jpg

VMAX is not a pig, this is a pig - but holy mother of god it's a scary beast


edit: My first bike was a Yamaha Virago 750 and I learned in Orange County, Cali about 20 years ago. I do not currently own a bike but may get another soon

Sounds like you want a sport bike thats a harley.


Get a xr1200 , it does everything you'll want it to. BUT, get it after you've had a 250 for a year or two.


Be safe, not sorry. I've been riding for years and I always try to lower my risk as much as possible.

No his Enfield isnt fake, i said that they are peices of shit because they build these bikes on 50 year old technology and they are slow as hell, they are ment for cheap transport, not to have a fun ride.

i don't have to have cars around to split a lane. :pimp

enfield licensed the design to some Indian company in the 50's so they still make basically a 50's enfield even though the company went out of biz years ago

My first bike was a 600 Suzuki Katana or as everyone else calls it "can-a-tuna" haha!

Good looking bike but very tame compared to many higher end torquey bikes in the 600 range. Great bike to learn on and when you're ready for more power it's an easy bike to sell.

Personally my next bike will probably be a Honda VFR 800.

Congrats enjoy it! Keep the shiny side up :)

http://i.imgur.com/hsfA9.jpg

http://www.confederate.com/ :)

My very first bike ever was a 1981 Honda CB400T. Ahh the memories!

You are incorrect, unless your friend bought an old Enfield.


Today's Enfield is a 500cc with fuel injection, solid state ignition and a Harley-Davidson valve train.

So, if you come up to a two lane intersection, and you are the only vehicle there, you stop on the white lane dividing the two lanes?

What do the cars that come up behind you do?

http://www.royalenfield.com/

"Welcome to Royal Enfield Motorcycles | Motorcycle India"

in general, when i split lanes i don't stay on the stripes for long, i always ride just to the left/right of the stripes. but to answer your question, i do stay to the side, outside the tire track but inside the stripe. cars pulling up behind do what they usually do, pull up too close! no way around that one.

i don't do that in the right lane as cars wanting to turn right will pull up next to me and try to turn. but i have a tendency to stay in the left lanes/fast lanes anyway.

I knew I should have dissected his comment for some of you. Yes, I am fully aware that India sells them now. The part he was incorrect about, and that I was correcting him about was the claim that the technology was 50 years old. I made the mistake of presuming that you might pick that up with the following response I made to bm.

Sorry.

Again, not sure how you are splitting lanes if by yourself. Or why. I still stand by my contention that sitting at a signal, in gear is insane. I would never do it on a motorcycle or driving a standard transmission car.

no worries. all i said was i split the lane while stopped at intersections regardless of whether or not a car is there, i believe it's safer to be to the side of a lane sitting at a stoplight. my style.

as for staying in gear, it depends on whether or not i think the light will be changing soon, if i have to pull my underwear out of my ass, wipe the snot off my nose, etc. case by case basis depending on the situation.

Insane? You don't think that's a bit strongly worded?

Would it surprise you to find out that the Motorcycyle Safety Foundation disagrees with you. In fact, since you're so strongly ("insane") against keeping a bike in gear, and they in fact teach and reccomend it, it's fair to say they strongly disagree with you.

In fact, in the rider's handbook they publish as course material they have the following to say:

Honestly, I like you but from time to time you get these stubborn ideas in your head and it really seems like you refuse to apply critical thought to them. Perhaps back when you first started riding things were different with these "suicide clutches" you mention. Things change. We don't pump our brakes in a panic stop in cars anymore either, we just keep them firmly pressed for ABS to take care of it.

You mentioned you were going to ask your son and good girl what they were taught. You should do that. Bet the answer surprises you.

this is my motivation for *splitting* the lanes waiting at an intersection. I don't sit at intersections with my eyes glued to my rear view mirrors and ready to launch if i see a car approaching in such a way that makes me think i need to get out of the way. by sitting off to the side, i believe that puts me in a better spot to not get crashed into by a cager coming up unnoticed from behind. a pre-emptive escape plan.


:)

Nice bikes