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The Demon 12-18-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17783652)

Jesus CHrist. Next thing you know, they're going to allow gays to serve in the military.

Rangermoore 12-19-2010 02:10 AM

A bad move... There WILL be problems...

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 17783634)
She means there will be "problems" just like there were "problems when women first started serving on ship in the US Navy", right?

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17783638)
Pretty much.

No, it's the consensus of the ship she was on that gays serving openly would make people uncomfortable more than having women on the ship.
When kids join the military they are surrounded by women, they are not always surrounded by gays.
Remember that I'm for gays serving

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17783579)
The troll is strong within you. :2 cents:

I hate the war we are waging on the other side of the world when people are getting killed on our border, something wrong with that?

MetaMan 12-19-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784467)
No, it's the consensus of the ship she was on that gays serving openly would make people uncomfortable more than having women on the ship.
When kids join the military they are surrounded by women, they are not always surrounded by gays.
Remember that I'm for gays serving

Gays already serve. :2 cents:

"Seventy-five percent of Americans in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll said gay people who are open about their sexual orientation should be allowed to serve in the U.S. military"

The consensus is your daughter is mostly likely a homophobe.

If she is anything like you she probably talked to 2-3 people and it became a "consensus of the ship".

What is with straight people? They act like gay people are running around raping straight people. truly hilarious. What is there to be uncomfortable to be about? looks like you raised her well.

The Demon 12-19-2010 01:50 PM

What is truly hilarious is that you use one poll to try and make a point.

MetaMan 12-19-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17784710)
What is truly hilarious is that you use one poll to try and make a point.

i dont believe in polls anyway, they can be turned to fit anyones agenda that i understand. but if you actually think the majority of people these days have a problem with it you are nuts.

with all the problems in the world this takes headline? how is it even open for discussion?

somehow peoples sexual preference is going to change anything? it is ming boggling.

there is no point in discussing this with people. eventually the generation of idiots will die off and hopefully we can move towards openness and understanding.

if you really think the "enemy" gives a fuck about who is taking it in the ass or who is licking whos box you are indeed insane.

hum maybe stop killing innocent women and children (either side) and see what happens.

but nope we gotta discuss about gays. LOL i had to check the date and make sure we arent in the stone ages.

with the way some of you idiots think i sometimes am looking for the fast forward button on my time machine.

epitome 12-19-2010 02:07 PM

Bunch of retards in this thread.

There have always been gay people in the military.

Read the Pentagon's just completed in-depth study on the issue. Most members had no issues with repeal.

epitome 12-19-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784467)
No, it's the consensus of the ship she was on that gays serving openly would make people uncomfortable more than having women on the ship.
When kids join the military they are surrounded by women, they are not always surrounded by gays.
Remember that I'm for gays serving

Well guess what, she served on an ass-backwards ship, because that is not the general consensus.

I think that is YOUR general consensus because you're a backwards redneck hillbilly.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17784677)
Gays already serve. :2 cents:

"Seventy-five percent of Americans in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll said gay people who are open about their sexual orientation should be allowed to serve in the U.S. military"

The consensus is your daughter is mostly likely a homophobe.

If she is anything like you she probably talked to 2-3 people and it became a "consensus of the ship".

What is with straight people? They act like gay people are running around raping straight people. truly hilarious. What is there to be uncomfortable to be about? looks like you raised her well.

Funny you should say that, i just got off the phone with a lesbian i met in
the navy 30 years ago, she was drunk and telling about her love life. We have kept in contact for 30 years. My daughter is better than that and you trying to make this about her truly shows what a low piece of shit you are. I said they should be allowed to serve, I don't know where your ignorance got that I'm a homophobe.
By your own statement, 75% of those surveyed said they were ok with gays serving openly, guess you are quick to dismiss the other 25% of them, on an aircraft carrier thats about 1000 crewmen that don't like it, if you don't think that might be a problem, you're a moron!!!!

Agent 488 12-19-2010 02:19 PM

what happens if a guy is trying to shoot an arab and some gay dude is sucking his cock? i could see how this could make people feel uncomfortable.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17784742)
Well guess what, she served on an ass-backwards ship, because that is not the general consensus.

I think that is YOUR general consensus because you're a backwards redneck hillbilly.

She was on the flag ship of the Navy, USS Ronald Reagan, I guess you got the real consenus? What is your experience in the military,nothing, so you know nothing

MetaMan 12-19-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784754)
Funny you should say that, i just got off the phone with a lesbian i met in
the navy 30 years ago, she was drunk and telling about her love life. We have kept in contact for 30 years. My daughter is better than that and you trying to make this about her truly shows what a low piece of shit you are. I said they should be allowed to serve, I don't know where your ignorance got that I'm a homophobe.
By your own statement, 75% of those surveyed said they were ok with gays serving openly, guess you are quick to dismiss the other 25% of them, on an aircraft carrier thats about 1000 crewmen that don't like it, if you don't think that might be a problem, you're a moron!!!!

If your daughter is uncomfortable around gays then YES SHE IS A HOMOPHOBE. this is in any facet of life.

ok so they should be allowed to serve but not openly? or what is your opinion? you are all over the map.

how nice of you to allow them to give up their life for that military you always brag about but no no no your daughter is "uncomfortable". im uncomfortable with your backwards ways and that you taught those ways to your spawn which will most likely pass it on their spawn.

why do i care if you have a lesbian friend? did you suggest to her your families feelings about gays in the military during that conversation?

no sorry i am not a moron. you are a laughing stock.

the 25% have problems because of backwards parents like yourself. teach your kids openness. i dont blame your daughter, i blame you. but im sure as this becomes law and it opens up she will forget it was even an issue in the first place.

unless of course her backwards father keeps reminding her of the "problem".

baddog 12-19-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784754)
By your own statement, 75% of those surveyed said they were ok with gays serving openly, guess you are quick to dismiss the other 25% of them, on an aircraft carrier thats about 1000 crewmen that don't like it, if you don't think that might be a problem, you're a moron!!!!

When did the military become a democracy?

The Demon 12-19-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17784719)
there is no point in discussing this with people. eventually the generation of idiots will die off and hopefully we can move towards openness and understanding.

Aside from your pointlessly naive rant, you DO realize that each generation has been getting dumber and dumber since the 60s? The next generation is going to be even dumber. You've lost your mind if you think you're part of the "enlightened".:1orglaugh


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I think that is YOUR general consensus because you're a backwards redneck hillbilly.
I find it hilarious that this is the insult stupid, ignorant liberals turn to when they believe change equates to progression.

MetaMan 12-19-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17784793)
you DO realize that each generation has been getting dumber and dumber since the 60s?

ok cool post proof.

i should of known better than to quote you. now i am waiting for a rant with 0 backing. anyway not going to get off topic.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17784776)
If your daughter is uncomfortable around gays then YES SHE IS A HOMOPHOBE. this is in any facet of life.

ok so they should be allowed to serve but not openly? or what is your opinion? you are all over the map.

how nice of you to allow them to give up their life for that military you always brag about but no no no your daughter is "uncomfortable". im uncomfortable with your backwards ways and that you taught those ways to your spawn which will most likely pass it on their spawn.

why do i care if you have a lesbian friend? did you suggest to her your families feelings about gays in the military during that conversation?

no sorry i am not a moron. you are a laughing stock.

the 25% have problems because of backwards parents like yourself. teach your kids openness.

Hey moron, never said my daughter was uncomfortable, learn to read

I have no problems with gays serving, but you're too fucking stupid to read what I wrote, BTW, my lesbian friend was in the Navy, maybe you didn't read that either?

Have you always read things that weren't there? Have you got help for that?

The Demon 12-19-2010 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17784796)
ok cool post proof.

Post proof of what? If you're asking for proof, perhaps you should abide by your own rules and prove that this is an "idiot generation". I'd like to think the generation of the 50s, who were responsible for unmatched economic prosperity, was the smartest we've had in this country. Technology happens to be a double edged sword. Now everybody sits texting each other or on their retarded social networks/forums rather than spending time outside or socializing with real life humans.


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i should of known better than to quote you. now i am waiting for a rant with 0 backing. anyway not going to get off topic
I-R-O-N-Y
H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y

It'll take metaman a few minutes to look those up :)

MetaMan 12-19-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 17784800)
Post proof of what? If you're asking for proof, perhaps you should abide by your own rules and prove that this is an "idiot generation". I'd like to think the generation of the 50s, who were responsible for unmatched economic prosperity, was the smartest we've had in this country. Technology happens to be a double edged sword. Now everybody sits texting each other or on their retarded social networks/forums rather than spending time outside or socializing with real life humans.

cool so you have no proof.


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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784798)
Hey moron, never said my daughter was uncomfortable, learn to read

I have no problems with gays serving, but you're too fucking stupid to read what I wrote, BTW, my lesbian friend was in the Navy, maybe you didn't read that either?

Have you always read things that weren't there? Have you got help for that?

ok so what problems is the repeal going to cause? please enlighten me.

The Demon 12-19-2010 02:35 PM

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cool so you have no proof.
I rest my case.. That was too easy.. Moving on.. Vendzilla, Metaman isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer so you're going to have to slow down.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17784785)
When did the military become a democracy?

Not a democracy, it's a ship with 4000 people on it, not everyone is going to like it and there might be some problems. Gays have been serving in the military for decades, 3 at least because I knew several when I was in. So I see no reason why they shouldn't. My opinion is no shared by everyone. By the 25% number, thats about 1000 people on one air craft carrier. Shit happens.

But hey, like in the other thread, you won't go by what I said, just what your thinking

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17784801)
ok so what problems is the repeal going to cause? please enlighten me.

Do you know why they have court martials? Because shit happens, what a fucking moron.

MetaMan 12-19-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784817)
Do you know why they have court martials? Because shit happens, what a fucking moron.

Ok so what problems is the repeal going to cause?

devilspost 12-19-2010 02:40 PM


MetaMan 12-19-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784817)
Do you know why they have court martials? Because shit happens, what a fucking moron.

o ok i re read. you are against it "because shit happens". ok you make sense now. my bad.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17784825)
o ok i re read. you are against it "because shit happens". ok you make sense now. my bad.

Thanx, but I'm not against it, I'm for gays serving, they have been for some time
You put 4000 servicemen that are just over 18 years old, give them alcohol for the first time and they don't have to listen to their parents, things are going to happen. Out of that 4000 on an aircraft carrier, 1000 have a problem with gays serving openly, your stats. 1000 on a bender , shit is going to happen

seeric 12-19-2010 03:08 PM

i support this.

Coup 12-19-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784857)
shit is going to happen

like rape

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=...71ac5826 c187

MetaMan 12-19-2010 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784857)
Thanx, but I'm not against it, I'm for gays serving, they have been for some time
You put 4000 servicemen that are just over 18 years old, give them alcohol for the first time and they don't have to listen to their parents, things are going to happen. Out of that 4000 on an aircraft carrier, 1000 have a problem with gays serving openly, your stats. 1000 on a bender , shit is going to happen

So maybe the 1000 who have problems with orders shouldnt be there in the first place?

or is it the gays fault people act out of line?

im just trying to see why you are against the repeal? the repeal has to do with gays being open while serving. not to do with serving.

so in summary, correct me if i am wrong you are against them openly serving because of what happen?

seems a little nuts to me. but each to their own opinion.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17784869)
So maybe the 1000 who have problems with orders shouldnt be there in the first place?

or is it the gays fault people act out of line?

im just trying to see why you are against the repeal? the repeal has to do with gays being open while serving. not to do with serving.

so in summary, correct me if i am wrong you are against them openly serving because of what happen?

seems a little nuts to me. but each to their own opinion.

What I said was I'm for them serving openly, but that shit is going to happen.
And saying the 1000 that have a problem with that shouldn't be there is as bad as saying that gays shouldn't be.

baddog 12-19-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784817)
Do you know why they have court martials? Because shit happens, what a fucking moron.

Seriously? Troll on bro, you are on your own.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17784865)

Much worse has happened in the military, like for religious reasons, an officer killed 13 people and injured 30 more. You might have heard about it, it happened at a place called Fort Hood.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17784883)
Seriously? Troll on bro, you are on your own.

and again, you're not reading what I wrote, just posting what you feel that I'm thinking, and you're wrong

Coup 12-19-2010 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784891)
Much worse has happened in the military, like for religious reasons, an officer killed 13 people and injured 30 more. You might have heard about it, it happened at a place called Fort Hood.

small potatoes compared to the roughly 1,400 rapes reported every year.

that's a whole lotta rape.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 17784894)
small potatoes compared to the roughly 1,400 rapes reported every year.

that's a whole lotta rape.

It does happen alot, the military isn't sunday school by any means. That's why I think there will be problems with gays serving openly. It's something thats needed to happen for some time, but there will be problems, those that think it shouldn't have never been in the military. I remember stories about officers getting shot in the back of the head by there own troops, the movie Animal House even made fun of that at the end of the movie.

Redrob 12-19-2010 06:11 PM

Maybe the military will start discharging "bigots" instead of "gays".

Black haters, women haters, now, gay haters........time for all haters to leave.

georgeyw 12-19-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784904)
It does happen alot, the military isn't sunday school by any means. That's why I think there will be problems with gays serving openly. It's something thats needed to happen for some time, but there will be problems, those that think it shouldn't have never been in the military. I remember stories about officers getting shot in the back of the head by there own troops, the movie Animal House even made fun of that at the end of the movie.

Were you in the navy at some stage of your life? I'm unclear on this as you haven't mentioned it before.

Vendzilla 12-19-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 17785167)
Were you in the navy at some stage of your life? I'm unclear on this as you haven't mentioned it before.

So you think that's not relevant here or are you just a moron?

MaDalton 12-19-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 17784857)
Thanx, but I'm not against it, I'm for gays serving, they have been for some time
You put 4000 servicemen that are just over 18 years old, give them alcohol for the first time and they don't have to listen to their parents, things are going to happen. Out of that 4000 on an aircraft carrier, 1000 have a problem with gays serving openly, your stats. 1000 on a bender , shit is going to happen

how many of those 4000 are uncomfortable serving with black people?

Redrob 12-19-2010 07:18 PM

I can see it now:

The Fabulous Fighting 59th -- Motto: Dressed to Kill.

I'm sure this is going to change things. :thumbsup

theking 12-19-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 17784801)
cool so you have no proof.




ok so what problems is the repeal going to cause? please enlighten me.

I will enlighten you...among other problems it will cause...is a reduction in re-enlistments of current...would be career military...especially in Combat Arms...as the largest percentage of those that were/are opposed to the repeal of DADT were/are serving in Combat Arms. It will also affect the enlistment rate.

What the percentage of loss will be remains to be seen. I suspect somewhere around the 10% mark at a minimum.

There will be other problems...specifically for those gays that choose to enlist...ranging from the minor to the severe.


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