Not trying to fool anyone - just wanted to show them a video.

no, you wanted to push your anti-america agenda on the rest of us.

grow some balls. maybe ask santa for a pair for xmas. who knows, you could get a xmas miracle.

Yes that I did want to do by showing a video.

Up to you if you want to change your mind or not.

Grow some balls? What are you talking about? Do you mean the balls to say things against the strongest government in the world or the balls to agree with everything they do and submit to their ways? Right.

Don't be mad that I did what I wanted to do and all your pathetic arguments were easily and thoroughly crushed by my logic and facts...I'm sorry that I'm smarter than you...its not my fault!

yeah familiar with both. are you familiar with roosevelt's reasons for arming the US pre-ww2 and how all intelligence about perl harbour was ignored so that public sentiment could be turned around by the disaster that followed? after that, WW2 became politically viable. of course, financially it was viable long before that.

point being is that there are and always will be many places in the world where ideals are being threatened and many more where such threats can be fabricated. but if you think the government will fight for an ideal, you're as big of a sheep as they come. in the end, its all about money and i for one would never put 1 second of my life at risk so that some gun manufacturer can get his fat bonus.

but hey, many volunteer not caring what they fight for, they want access to an education, they want a job, they want to see action, they want to travel. and thats a choice i can respect.

I second that. fuck you

anyone?
wow, a canadian standing up against the big ole u.s. of a. government by posting a youtube video on an adult message board.

Why World War II ended with Mushroom Clouds
65 years ago, August 6 and 9, 1945: Hiroshima and Nagasaki

"Sixty-five years ago, Truman did not have to use the atomic bomb in order to force Japan to its knees, but he had reasons to want to use the bomb. The atom bomb enabled the Americans to force Tokyo to surrender unconditionally, to keep the Soviets out of the Far East and - last but not least - to force Washington?s will on the Kremlin in Europe also."

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"Truman himself, however, hypocritically declared at the time that the purpose of the two nuclear bombardments had been ?to bring the boys home,? that is, to quickly finish the war without any further major loss of life on the American side. This explanation was uncritically broadcast in the American media and it developed into a myth eagerly propagated by the majority of historians and media in the USA and throughout the ?Western? world. That myth, which, incidentally, also serves to justify potential future nuclear strikes on targets such as Iran and North Korea, is still very much alive - just check your mainstream newspaper on August 6 and 9!"

Why World War II ended with Mushroom Clouds

doing what i can!!

its amazing how *much* canadians know about america.
:1orglaugh

look who it is, another canadian america basher with the same ole same ole.

btw, that link and your cut & paste from it negates nothing re: what i stated.

it's amazing how *much* americans know about canada.


Now back to dyna mo's post about the soldiers. I don't believe most soldiers are evil. However, there are a few that are. From every country, including Canada. You cannot pin point it to one country.

It's the same with Police, you will have your good ones and bad ones.

Anyhow to all the soldiers from all around the world who are doing the politicians dirty work, have a Merry Christmas.

trust me, Americans don't give a shit about canada. if it weren't for chat board clowns shooting their mouths off about that which they do not know.......and hockey, we'd have a hard time remembering you existed.

Cool story bro

but you forgot Oil, I'm sure you care about that as well.

its amazing how *little* americans know about america

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

your military requested 58 nuclear strikes during the Korean war with this argument, so..

some kid typing away in his parent's basement, does not represent all Canadians lol. just like some moron typing away in a similar way, but across the boarder, does not represent all Americans. jesus. like it or not, we are you're largest single supplier of oil, your largest trading partner, and arguably your most important allie. but continue with the blanket Canada bashing, it's fun :glugglug

It's amazing how little American's know about the rest of the World.

Yeah you'd forget about Canada until you needed more oil, power or water.

Before you go off all half-cocked, my mother is American. I can live in Canada or the USA it's my choice. I'm also not a raving patriot that thinks Canada is the greatest country on Earth.

I don't know why you guys get so upset. The USA is not some giant that goes at it alone, you know. Nobody is trying to say Canada is better than the US. Canada and the United States enjoy the largest open border in the World. We're each other's largest trading partners and we supply you with more crude oil than any Middle Eastern country.

While *YOU* might not think or care about such complex topics as international relationships, I can guaran-damn-tee you that the people that run your country sure do. Don't get me wrong, as a Canadian living some 10 feet or so (literally out my drive way, across the street and over a ditch in to the park and I'm in Washington State, where my American mother lives.) I actually understand how important the relationship is between our two countries. I also recognize that the people are not so very different either. Especially in a given geographic region. The people in Washington State, for example, are very similar to the people in British Columbia.

Believe me, we want the United States to be the all powerful, all knowing source of righteousness and goodness that you mistakenly believe it is; And perhaps at one time it was. We want to participate in achieving that because we know full well that what's good for one country is good for the other. FOr you to dismiss opportunity like that with stupid comments like "we don't care about Canada" just shows how little touch you have with reality.

For a guy that claims to be as bright as you do, I'd have expected you not to advertise your ignorance so regularily. My mistake I guess.

of course wars are fought over money. duh. money is a resource and the conquest of someone else's resources has been a motivator for war since the sumerians.

but you're drinking your own kool-aid if you don't think ideological factors do not have an impetus in war. groups of people throughout time have found the need to conquer or try to conquer others who do not look at things the same as they do. just like the op of this thread, he stated himself that americans are unable to agree with him when he attempts to communicate his views intelligently (i've yet to see that however), so his solution- hit us on the head with his views "to get his point across".

100 huuurrraaa's

Seattle is like a second home to me

yep, Vancouver and Seattle are so similar it is eerie.

ha, i try and hit up that soundview cafe place.. great view to have breakfast with

Just like Vietnam, the wars in Iraq and Afghan were never meant to be won; by design they were meant to be sustained, that way the money keeps coming.

When one takes a closer look at the rules they have to stick to, it becomes apparent that winning isn't the plan. Once the war is won the money no longer flows at the same rate

The below is from the transcript for Zeitgeist (can easily be found on Google Video or YouTube)

In 1985 Vietnam's Rules of Engagement were declassified. This detailed what American troops were and were not allowed to do in the war. It included absurdities like:

* North Vietnamese anti-aircraft missile systems could not be bombed until they were known to be operational
* No enemy could be pursued once they crossed the border of Laos or Cambodia. And most revealing of all..
* The most critical strategic targets were not allowed to be attacked unless initiated via high military officials.

Apart from these imposed ludicrous limitations North Vietnam was informed of these restrictions and therefore could based entire strategies around the limitations of the American forces. This is why the war went on so long. And the bottom line is this: the Vietnam War was never meant to be won. Just sustained.

Was there any point to this thread other than to insult America and its veterans?

Guess you did not read the thread other than the first post.

I read enough to get the gist of it.
Americans are the devil because of things it's military has done in wars.
We are nothing but losers at everything we do.
Without the A-bomb we'd all be speaking Japanese...and we should tear down the statue of liberty and erect a statue of Stalin for saving the world from the Nazis.

it's actually a motivational thread designed to get you to carry the op's message and go pied piper around to various soldier's families homes over the holidays and tell them to shun their murderous, cowardly children.

Guys, this board is filled with misguided children. Take satisfaction in knowing they're going to live the exact life they deserve

You are probably right. I just find it quite annoying when these people who weren't even alive during Vietnam talk like they understand what the world was like then.
I bet none of them know how many draftees were killed there.

For the uninformed..draftees were not people who signed up to kill a commie for Christ.

And that's exactly why the Vietnam war was a war where you had to support the troops, they had to do it. And the exact reason you shouldn't support the troops today - they don't have to do it.

Thanks guys. This thread brings back the memories.. Logged on today for the first time in 3 yrs.. shit is all still the same :-)

we should tear it down, it's a statue of Lucifer.

amp. you a christian?

If there were not enough volunteers...then the draft would be reinstated. Eighteen year olds still have to register for the draft in the U.S...and the draft boards are still active.

So from your statement I conclude that if one is drafted then you support the actions of the troops but if they are volunteers then you do not support the actions of the troops.

it was a gift, that would be considered rude.

it was a re-gift.

it was supposed to go to Egypt.

I was unaware that you are a religious person.

no.

8char

nevertheless.