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Minte 12-21-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 17791822)
we should tear it down, it's a statue of Lucifer.

Maybe we can get Copperfield to dress her up in lingerie and stockings.:winkwink:

moeloubani 12-21-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17791828)
If there were not enough volunteers...then the draft would be reinstated. Eighteen year olds still have to register for the draft in the U.S...and the draft boards are still active.

So from your statement I conclude that if one is drafted then you support the actions of the troops but if they are volunteers then you do not support the actions of the troops.

If the troops are drafted then I would support them - but not always their actions. They have no choice as to whether they want to go fight or not. In that case, I'd be against the government sending them to fight, not the troops.

Right now I don't support the troops OR their actions.

Minte 12-21-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17791812)
And that's exactly why the Vietnam war was a war where you had to support the troops, they had to do it. And the exact reason you shouldn't support the troops today - they don't have to do it.

Whether we agree with the policies of our government is moot. It is the best thing we have going. Look at the countries around the world that don't have a government.. They have anarachy and total chaos.

Making a thread like this simply to disrespect those men and women who do believe in democracy and are willing to put it all on the line has no merit. Like it or not the world hasn't evolved to the point where we don't need a strong military.

12clicks 12-21-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17791919)
Whether we agree with the policies of our government is moot. It is the best thing we have going. Look at the countries around the world that don't have a government.. They have anarachy and total chaos.

Making a thread like this simply to disrespect those men and women who do believe in democracy and are willing to put it all on the line has no merit. Like it or not the world hasn't evolved to the point where we don't need a strong military.

Canada is the new France. Full of opinion and little else.

moeloubani 12-21-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17791919)
Whether we agree with the policies of our government is moot. It is the best thing we have going. Look at the countries around the world that don't have a government.. They have anarachy and total chaos.

Making a thread like this simply to disrespect those men and women who do believe in democracy and are willing to put it all on the line has no merit. Like it or not the world hasn't evolved to the point where we don't need a strong military.

That don't have a government? Not sure what that has to do with anything, I'm not saying we shouldn't have a government, but many nations around the world don't participate in wars and they do perfectly fine.

It is not the place of the United States to go in and tell other people what they can and can't do. You have no right being in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other place in the world - at least just as much a right as the terrorists have to live in the US.

In case you haven't noticed, the United States spends almost as much as the rest of the world combined on their military. Why do you guys feel like you need this huge military and are always under attack while other countries live better than you guys do, don't have a military, are happier, healthier, and better educated than you guys are and they aren't always out killing people 'just because'.

The United States doesn't give two shits about democracy. All it cares about is getting what they want - no matter what it takes; even if that means slaughtering innocent women and children.

Coup 12-21-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17791963)
The United States doesn't give two shits about democracy. All it cares about is getting what they want - no matter what it takes; even if that means slaughtering innocent women and children.

I dont like the way you worded that. We prefer to call it "protecting american interests"

theking 12-21-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17791963)
That don't have a government? Not sure what that has to do with anything, I'm not saying we shouldn't have a government, but many nations around the world don't participate in wars and they do perfectly fine.

It is not the place of the United States to go in and tell other people what they can and can't do. You have no right being in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other place in the world - at least just as much a right as the terrorists have to live in the US.

In case you haven't noticed, the United States spends almost as much as the rest of the world combined on their military. Why do you guys feel like you need this huge military and are always under attack while other countries live better than you guys do, don't have a military, are happier, healthier, and better educated than you guys are and they aren't always out killing people 'just because'.

The United States doesn't give two shits about democracy. All it cares about is getting what they want - no matter what it takes; even if that means slaughtering innocent women and children.

It is our policies that have made us the greatest economic and military power the world has ever known. Of the 192 countries on the earth only a handful are of any import.

Right and wrong are subjective terms at best.

potter 12-21-2010 10:39 PM

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how someone can watch that youtube video. Then post it for troops, to some how state "watch this".

I'd be like me finding an article in a magazine explaining the new engine in the BMW, taking it to the BMW headquarters and showing it to the engineers of that particular engine and saying "read this".

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...5/newklear.jpg

will76 12-21-2010 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 17789212)
I concur ^^^

piss off eh! stupid Canadian, Canada has troops in Afghanistan

moeloubani 12-22-2010 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 17792054)
I'm still trying to wrap my head around how someone can watch that youtube video. Then post it for troops, to some how state "watch this".

I'd be like me finding an article in a magazine explaining the new engine in the BMW, taking it to the BMW headquarters and showing it to the engineers of that particular engine and saying "read this".

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...5/newklear.jpg

The idea is that tons of troops are still over there, afraid to tell the truth about how they feel. This guy kept on following orders even though he knew the side he was fighting for was murdering kids. Maybe someone will see this video and it will change how they think and they'll tell someone else.

I see it like this - over 100 replies in the thread means I accomplished what I wanted which was people to see the video.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-22-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17791008)
its amazing how *much* canadians know about america.
:1orglaugh

it's amazing how *little* americans know about anything other than america... :2 cents:

Blingbaby 12-22-2010 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17789231)
Go fuck yourself

Still a dickwad after all these years. There's a special place in hell waiting for you and your ilk..

Blingbaby 12-22-2010 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17789289)
You are not informing anyone. However, I believe that my previously arrived at conclusion that you are some kind of pussy seems to be agreed on by some.

Idiots like you mostly..

Blingbaby 12-22-2010 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17789301)
i'm tired of elitist shitheads who think their job is to inform others of their view on things.


grow some balls and go tell the people/soldiers/soldier's families to their face that you think they are all cowards.

As if telling the pitbull thrown into the dogfight by his controlling master will actually give him a hint that he is just a pawn in some sadist game..

Seth Manson 12-22-2010 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17792106)
piss off eh! stupid Canadian, Canada has troops in Afghanistan


Did you just call me a fucking Canadian?!

Seth Manson 12-22-2010 04:55 AM

I am a Warrior and a member of a team. I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.

I am an expert and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.

I am an American Soldier.



I can recite that shit backwards, in my sleep. If you Canadians dont like our troops, then fuck it, we dont give a shit if you like them or not. Your opinion of what we do means less than shit to us.

Yah, really.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-22-2010 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 17792340)
I am a Warrior and a member of a team. I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.

I am an expert and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.

I am an American Soldier.



I can recite that shit backwards, in my sleep. If you Canadians dont like our troops, then fuck it, we dont give a shit if you like them or not. Your opinion of what we do means less than shit to us.

Yah, really.

Where's the line that says, "I don't think or ask questions, I just do what I'm told like a good little bitch" ? :1orglaugh

quiet 12-22-2010 06:02 AM

this thread is incredibly gay on so many levels.

Bryan G 12-22-2010 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 17791739)
I read enough to get the gist of it.
Americans are the devil because of things it's military has done in wars.
We are nothing but losers at everything we do.
Without the A-bomb we'd all be speaking Japanese...and we should tear down the statue of liberty and erect a statue of Stalin for saving the world from the Nazis.

Wrong actually. Not everyone here agrees with the original posters views. If you read what most of us say you would see that. Then you have 12clicks and well he is what he is, a troll.

moeloubani 12-22-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 17792340)
I am a Warrior and a member of a team. I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.

I am an expert and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.

I am an American Soldier.



I can recite that shit backwards, in my sleep. If you Canadians dont like our troops, then fuck it, we dont give a shit if you like them or not. Your opinion of what we do means less than shit to us.

Yah, really.

Add

I murder babies.

Then it might be right!!

Look for anyone reading this thread my main point is that US soldiers have no business in Afghanistan or Iraq. They need to be out of those places and back home where they can support their families and have a merry Christmas.

Helping bring the US troops home is the ONLY way you should be supporting them.

directfiesta 12-22-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 17792340)
I am a Warrior and a member of a team. I serve the people of the United States and live the Army Values.

I will always place the mission first.

I will never accept defeat.

I will never quit.

I will never leave a fallen comrade.

I am disciplined, physically and mentally tough, trained and proficient in my warrior tasks and drills. I always maintain my arms, my equipment and myself.

I am an expert and I am a professional.

I stand ready to deploy, engage, and destroy the enemies of the United States of America in close combat.

I am a guardian of freedom and the American way of life.

I am an American Soldier.



I can recite that shit backwards, in my sleep. If you Canadians dont like our troops, then fuck it, we dont give a shit if you like them or not. Your opinion of what we do means less than shit to us.

Yah, really.

Nazis said the same at Nuremberg ... :2 cents:

dyna mo 12-22-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17792773)
Nazis said the same at Nuremberg ... :2 cents:

nazis said they were american soldiers at nuremberg?

dyna mo 12-22-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17789154)
Shame on all the soldiers, I hope that this holiday season their families shun them for being murderers just like they should.

this wonderful holiday message brought to you by the op.

moeloubani 12-22-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17792779)
nazis said they were american soldiers at nuremberg?

You and I both know what he meant. Sad to see that you are taking the 'criticize trivial things because its the only time im even close to being right' route. But can't say I'm surprised.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17792785)
this wonderful holiday message brought to you by the op.

Damn right it is, on behalf of all the innocent children that the US soldiers killed, the people that they raped there, the families and lives they ruined.

12clicks 12-22-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 17792605)
Wrong actually. Not everyone here agrees with the original posters views. If you read what most of us say you would see that. Then you have 12clicks and well he is what he is, a troll.

ahahaha, still butt hurt, little fella?

don't be bitter because I'm right, be bitter because your idiot education system wrongly convinced you that you were.:1orglaugh

12clicks 12-22-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17792180)
it's amazing how *little* americans know about anything other than america... :2 cents:

its amazing how little anything other than america matters.:2 cents:

dyna mo 12-22-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17792787)
You and I both know what he meant. Sad to see that you are taking the 'criticize trivial things because its the only time im even close to being right' route. But can't say I'm surprised.

i know exactly what he meant and it's retarded, thus my pointing it out the way i did.
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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17792787)
Damn right it is, on behalf of all the innocent children that the US soldiers killed, the people that they raped there, the families and lives they ruined.

hardly. it's clear you lack compassion, so don't try and bail out now by saying it's about the children. no one is buying your bullshit.

Bryan G 12-22-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17792795)
ahahaha, still butt hurt, little fella?

don't be bitter because I'm right, be bitter because your idiot education system wrongly convinced you that you were.:1orglaugh

How am I bitter? LOL

Anyhow, I find it comical that you are mocking the Canadian Education System over the American System.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...raph-popup.jpg

Phoenix 12-22-2010 09:32 AM

interesting thread.
its always amusing to see how quickly supposedly well educated people running a successful business succumb to name calling and finger pointing like they are in the third grade...it is a sad state of affairs if all you have to contribute to any argument is a loud thumping of your chest while you point at whatever flag is yours and grunt.
now that i have a child i really am scared for the direction the world is turning, there seems to be no one at the helm, we exist to serve corporations wills

if i was a religious person, this would be the time to start praying.
i hope you all have a wonderful few days off, and take time to think about both american/canadian soldiers stuck in a place they don't want to be, doing a job they don't want to be doing for a populace which will surely condemn them for doing it.

another point...the only reason the guys on dirt bikes are getting away with their bullshit is the way the troops hands are tied, these guys on dirt bikes go home to their families and hide in plain sight most of the time...its war, the only way to win it is to eliminate the other side, but we are unable to commit to such an act, so instead we trade body counts, and then insult the poor kids unfortunate enough to be sent over there to fight our battles for us.

hug your kids and hope they never get forced to go off to a foreign land and fight for the oil companies

pornguy 12-22-2010 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17789271)
We don't have a draft. Anyone there is there by choice. :2 cents:

Thats not quite true. They are IN the Military by choice. But once they sign the papers they belong to the government.

As for the comment about just take a Dishonorable discharge?? Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

For that video.

You guys get your panties in such a bunch watching it and never stop to ask some simple questions.

if you asked them you would understand the reason behind what happened.

Here are a few to ask while watching that video.

1. What in the HELL were those photographers/vid guys doing in that area without first telling someone, like the military they would be there.

2. Why were they dressed in the same clothes as the " Insurgents "

3. if they were not involved why were they with guys that appear to have weapons and one sure as shit looks like an RPG.

4. What the FUCK was the guy doing peeking around the corner of a building at a Battle helicopter?

Does any of that seem odd to anyone???

When you are in a combat zone you have one rule in your head. YOU WILL GO HOME ALIVE ! Thats the goal at the end of the day.

Minte 12-22-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17792838)
interesting thread.
its always amusing to see how quickly supposedly well educated people running a successful business succumb to name calling and finger pointing like they are in the third grade...it is a sad state of affairs if all you have to contribute to any argument is a loud thumping of your chest while you point at whatever flag is yours and grunt.
now that i have a child i really am scared for the direction the world is turning, there seems to be no one at the helm, we exist to serve corporations wills

if i was a religious person, this would be the time to start praying.
i hope you all have a wonderful few days off, and take time to think about both american/canadian soldiers stuck in a place they don't want to be, doing a job they don't want to be doing for a populace which will surely condemn them for doing it.

another point...the only reason the guys on dirt bikes are getting away with their bullshit is the way the troops hands are tied, these guys on dirt bikes go home to their families and hide in plain sight most of the time...its war, the only way to win it is to eliminate the other side, but we are unable to commit to such an act, so instead we trade body counts, and then insult the poor kids unfortunate enough to be sent over there to fight our battles for us.

hug your kids and hope they never get forced to go off to a foreign land and fight for the oil companies

It's clearly the downside of the internet.

Anonymous individuals can gain an audience by being insulting and inflammatory. There have been a few notable cases where shock jocks that were not hidden behind a computer inflamed a segment of the public.. It didn't go well for them.

I can't relate to the mentality at where the fun is to come online to simply be a mouthy ass to others. When I was a young man, I did demonstrate on the streets of Madison. Got tear-gassed several times on State Street.

This era of cyber-demonstration is weak and doesn't show any convictions. If the OP truly is concerned I will pay for his plane ticket to and from Ft.Bragg N.C. and he can show this video outside of the maingate.

_Richard_ 12-22-2010 10:04 AM

haha @ 'fuck you'

everyone knows this clip is about children getting machine gunned right? visible children.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-22-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17792799)
its amazing how little anything other than america matters.:2 cents:

Do you know how to say that in Chinese yet? Start studying...

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-22-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 17792833)
How am I bitter? LOL

Anyhow, I find it comical that you are mocking the Canadian Education System over the American System.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...raph-popup.jpg

America is outperformed in pretty much everything other than blowing shit up and swallowing third world economies, and it's average citizen doesn't amount to much more than dancing monkey that perform tricks for breadcrumbs. Once it was a country looked upon globally as something great, a nation who stood up against oppression and brought freedom and liberty to it's people. It's essentially become everything it once stood against, and the rest of the world can see that now. Americans really really REALLY don't like being told that either. They'd much rather close their eyes and ignore the simple fact that nobody likes them because they are the global douchebag. Then when it comes down to it, their only defense to the accusations is to fall back on Big Brother's firepower, which will gleefully be turned upon them too if need be. They could easily lead the world in education, health care, social services, and scientific progress, yet all they do is build more weapons to blow more shit up for their corporate overlords... :2 cents:

Splendorous_Male 12-22-2010 10:09 AM

I don't care about this war.

dyna mo 12-22-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17792945)
America is outperformed in pretty much everything other than blowing shit up and swallowing third world economies, and it's citizens don't amount to much more than dancing monkeys. Once it was a country looked upon globally as something great. A nation who stood up against oppression and brought freedom and liberty to it's people. It's essentially become everything it oce stood against, and the rest of the world can see that now. Americans really really REALLY, don't like being told that either. Then when it comes down to it, their only defense to the accusations is to fall back on Big Brother's firepower, which will gleefully be turned upon them too if need be... :2 cents:

this message brought to you by the guy who wants 100,000s of thousands of southern californians murdered by dropping a nuclear bomb on los angeles.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-22-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17792967)
this message brought to you by the guy who wants 100,000s of thousands of southern californians murdered by dropping a nuclear bomb on los angeles.

100,000's of thousands? I'm talking millions dude! A couple hundred thousands is nowhere near enough. I want severed limbs hanging from white picket fences all across America. Then when some little Chinamen says "Well we had to do it, our economy was dipping, and we needed more bigscreens" I want to point and laugh. In Chinese of course... :thumbsup

dyna mo 12-22-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17792990)
100,000's of thousands? I'm talking millions dude! A couple hundred thousands is nowhere near enough. I want severed limbs hanging from white picket fences all across America. Then when some little Chinamen says "Well we had to do it, our economy was dipping, and we needed more bigscreens" I want to point and laugh. In Chinese of course... :thumbsup

i see.

killing bad
murder bad
nuclear bad
bad bad


unless it serves YOUR agenda.

12clicks 12-22-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17792940)
Do you know how to say that in Chinese yet? Start studying...

and your daddy was busy telling us to study Japanese.

the idiot fruit doesn't fall far from the tree

12clicks 12-22-2010 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 17792945)
America is outperformed in pretty much everything other than blowing shit up and swallowing third world economies, and it's average citizen doesn't amount to much more than dancing monkey that perform tricks for breadcrumbs. Once it was a country looked upon globally as something great, a nation who stood up against oppression and brought freedom and liberty to it's people. It's essentially become everything it once stood against, and the rest of the world can see that now. Americans really really REALLY don't like being told that either. They'd much rather close their eyes and ignore the simple fact that nobody likes them because they are the global douchebag. Then when it comes down to it, their only defense to the accusations is to fall back on Big Brother's firepower, which will gleefully be turned upon them too if need be. They could easily lead the world in education, health care, social services, and scientific progress, yet all they do is build more weapons to blow more shit up for their corporate overlords... :2 cents:

wow, the bitterness of the global unwashed is fascinating.:1orglaugh
the people who don't like us imagine we're global douchbags.
the fact is, we're just better, at just about everything. sucks to not be us.:thumbsup


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