Only an idiot would think 1:1000 or more is "good".

very sexy.


Sabby:)

Like everything it depends on the situation. 1:1000 on exit popups wouldn't be good?

Do you hump kangaroos?

what I'm saying is that 10-12 years ago any moron could use some crappy free content throw together some 15 pic gallery on a free host and get it listed on dozen big name TGPs of the time and get 1:1000 ratio to a sponsor.

Show us some of your stats?

fake stats are always good, otherwise people wouldn't try to fake them.
There's a reason why dutch clown cut off dates and would play with choker.
He is number one village idiot on gfy as said by many.

Ahh, didn't see that, way too much trash talk for me to read it all.

That does explain a bit more about the steadiness of the traffic, if it's from his own tube. I just assumed he had worked some deals with them to list videos/ads, and the little up's and down's were various videos. I guess it could still be that, but being his own site, the sky is pretty much the limit...

Still decent stats... looks good enough to duplicate at least.

I wouldn't say the lack of dates make it fake.

Even if the stats are a weekly/monthly/year over compound of data vs. daily... the end result, traffic, clicks, and ratio is all that makes a difference.

Just the idea that a tube (of any size), the free site industry killing machine that couldn't possibly have any buyers, all because anyone looking at free porn would never buy (as chanted by many) - is bullshit just like all the other industry killing free porn rants that go on.

I think... that was more of the point of the post. Anyway, carry on with your details. :thumbsup

how to prove that are fake?

How to learn english?

Seriously, given the history of this assclown with his imaginary employees and other "look at me" stunts, I would not be surprise that little dutch boy is just trying to add an inch to his little tiny e-penis with this.
Come on, this is the guy that runs mega projects like these so he can make 25 cents a day with google ads.

3dmovieforum.com
dexterseason5.com
tsunamiwarninghawaii.com

:1orglaugh

this guy is full of shit, don't ever believe one single word from him.

period.

Yo dumbass, its the year 2011, not 12 years ago.

Glad people do understand the purpose of my post. :thumbsup

3dmovieforum was sold for some nice cash last year lol. Anyways, posting sideprojects makes you even look more jealous. :1orglaugh

And whos fake nick are you again?

Custom payouts are not that unusual if you bring in the bacon and have good quality traffic.

i'm at close to 2x the street payout at a certain sponsor after running for two months on regular street rate and having proven, quality traffic which they made sure to tell me they really really like

Some webmasters get tours, banners and special signup pages made for them by the sponsor also in addition to bumped payouts

Dont waste your time explaining this to the anon troll :)
He got busted and banned many times thats why he needs to hide his real name. Hilarious how jealous broke people can be and how stupid they look everytime they post :)

No shit genius.
But we are not talking about this type of affiliates. This idiot is fake as it gets. You know why he didn't bother to talk smack about my stats? Because he know its real and knows what program that is. Its fucking click****.. same program he's pushing on his lame ass sites.
He didn't sell anything. Its on his server. Same as his tube site, blametubes, and other lame shit.

Yeah right :1orglaugh

I got Indian/Pakistan/Turkish traffic on a couple ol' sites of mine, targeted at those peeps (test i made 8 years ago and still got the shit up) and guess what ?

0:65 000+ on one of the sponsor used on those sites:helpme

hell you did..
as well as the rest of priceless domains you have there.
1 oneclicktube.com
2 3dmovieforum.com
3 iblametubes.com
4 3dhomecinema.com
5 3dhometheaters.com
6 freepornsitesecrets.com
7 dexterseason5.com
8 howtotrainyourdragon3d.com
9 hawaiitsunamiwarning.com
10 emogothporn.com
11 pixeldust.info
12 tsunamiwarninghawaii.com
13 sexinyourcitygirls.com


how much did hawaiitsunamiwarning.com sell for :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Its an internal joke you idiot.
I guess you have no idea what turkish traffic and frisky have in common.

I hope you are joking. A ratio over 1:500 is very bad. Yours are horrible.

fucking babelfish :1orglaugh

Seriously, Congrats to Jack Sparrow

I agree with you. For affiliates there's little they can do. If one gives out more free content then the next will give out even more. The one consistent we've had since 1998 is the adding to the free content. It used to be a few softcore images on a few galleries, well few compared to today, now it's full scenes and loads of them on loads of sites.

And less people spending money because there's less need to. When people whoop about converting 1 in 1,000 (99.9% of clicks) we know something is wrong. And that's clicks.

Even 30 second to 5 minutes is too much IMO, but if you compete with people giving away 1,000 of full scenes you've little option.

The solution is to move away from selling what we have been selling when giving away 20 minute scenes to millions would of crashed a server or made the BW bill too excessive. The situation has changed 180 degrees and the industry still sells the same product it did 10 years ago. Make that 30 years ago. Pre-recorded videos are easier to get for free today.

Show me a tube doing better then. Or maybe your stats?
Im more then satisfied seeing this is just from one sponsor im pushing. And from reading the replies i think im not doing that horrible at all :)

Today some have wet dreams of getting that ratio. :1orglaugh

999 people walking through your shop and going out the back door to jerk off for free is what 1-1,000 means. Yet people scream about how good it all is. :upsidedow

I can show a stats page in minutes, but everyone will scream fake.

The only proof is the Tube site, proof you own it and your bank statement. Showing the wires.

Photoshop is a great tool and whether you used it or not is immaterial, you could of.

Nah thx, It's a WP tube so I'm very familiar with what to do.

thread full of lies and bullshit

- not tube traffic (for all we know it could have been bought PPC traffic)
- no dates on stats
- Jack Sparrow is a broke attention whore

sure you are

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

In 1998 we had newsgroups, far bigger, far worse than tubes, and everyone was on them. The difference between today and then, In 1998 paysites didn't have full scenes, many didn't have any video at all.

Galleries have always had 10,000's of views to clicks - just like a tube video.

TGP's didn't list affiliate galleries in 1998, they were backdoor sites that traded traffic with cj's and password sites.

The solution is to keep selling exactly what the surfer wants... which includes all types of porn, including pre-recorded porn or any other formats they buy. We don't need to invent a new way to do it, we only need to ask our surfers want they want and provide it.

you talking bout general tubes right? cause niche tubes definitely got their place in this biz and they definitely convert traffic.

it a bit the same as with tgps and mgps, the general ones need boatloads of traffic to make the sales, the niched ones get way less traffic but do make better sales and ratios.

If you think doing 20-30k a month from pushing one sponsor is bad, i dont get why you are crying all the time.

All Tubes convert. If they didn't they wouldn't exist. Only a fool would say they don't convert. And I'm no fool.

The problem is how many can get off on a tube that WOULD OF BOUGHT a membership?

TGPs converted more than links, but needed more traffic and could get it. Now Tubes convert and need even more traffic.

These are just Alexa stats on 5 tube sites. Don't think of the surfers as all buyers, think of them as people looking for free porn. 3.5 million people just using Alexa stats.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/alexa1.jpg

The problem is no one will think 1 year, 2 or even only 6 months down the line. As more people put up more free Tubes trying to sell the same old content we've sold for decades the earnings WILL get worse.

Look at Jack Sparrow's statement. $30k from one sponsor at 1-1,000 = 1,000,000 surfers sent to one site paying him $30 a sign up. How many sponsors pay him that, convert like that and how much traffic does it take to send 1 surfer to a sponsors site. He would have to have something like the traffic Tube8 have to be up there. :1orglaugh

Jack I never said it was bad, just said prove it. Otherwise it's suspiciously smells like Bullshit.

and i couldnt photoshop a wire i guess?
And im sure im faking it with the sponsors too?

What reason would i have to post fake stats?
How long do you think i would be in this biz, selling adspace to huge sponsors based on fake stats.

I dont give a shit about people trying to trash me, its a motivational for a lot of people ;)

Then dont believe me. My bankaccount and lifestyle disagree ;)
but seriously paul, it looks like you rather believe some anons, fake nicks, and trolls. I dont think you have a clue about what i do. Or what sites i run or own. I dont blame you, because i never go to public parties or events. And i love how i can be totally different on a forum then i am in real life.

You value board personas and fakes to much paul. Really.

Why do you think none of the big sponsors or their reps post shit about me?

But hey, keep thinking im a fake like those that dont know anything about me :)

ctr is important when examining ratios on tube sites. don't think ive ever clicked on a sponsor link from a tube site ever

Ding, we have a winner.

Exactly why these stats are worthless in a tube ratios vs everything else ratio debate.

I don't take much notice of other posters as I rely on logic. As you can see I posted Alexa stats on 5 Tubes, just to show the traffic trend. I suspect it's way higher than that. Fabian of Manwin said he was getting 20 million surfers. So it might be BS but the trend is more people go to Tubes, NOT TO BUY every day.

I used logic to work out if you make $30K a month off 1 sponsor and convert at 1-1,000. It doesn't take a genius to work out that a VERY BIG Tube site you have there.

You have 6 sponsors over $1,000, 18 doing $400 to $900 ish. Converting at 1-1,000 X 10 viewers to get 1 banner click and getting $30 a sign up you have to have to have millions of surfers on your Tube every day. Unless you're one of the biggest buyers of traffic in Adult. And then what's your profit line?

For that to be daily stats you are way ahead of the pack.

If you're earning $30 off 1-1,000 banner clicks and it's 1-10 viewers. To earn $24,000 a month you need to send 8 million surfers to sponsors a month. That's 80 million Tube surfers a month on your Tube site.

Of course I guessing but maybe I'm guessing low conversion and high payments. :winkwink:

I can't recall ever clicking an ad on google... at that, I don't noticed Pinned threads on GFY, until someone like the Wife points it out to me.

That's the challenge today with advertising today for all of us. Many people tune it out and others don't - but the pool of people that do is growing. That's why we're seeing inline ads in videos, ads being built inline with the content/page more, free reg for better features - thus email, and of course lots of other stuff - including very detailed micro filtering.

Our work is never done, that's for sure..

why not just post the stats with dates?

how much total traffic did it take you to the site to get that type of results? not just to the program but to the actual site?