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DEA - banned for life 01-28-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17876487)
they could cut off the internet but so what? only a computer geek thinks that the world stops when the internet is cut off.

and no regime is immune from being toppled. history shows at the right place and time even the most despotic regime can collapse.

solders and cops aren't robots. many of them hate the regime as well and eventually give in and join the other side, as is happening in egypt now.

like i said, know your history.

as an aside, it's times like this that shows what the conspiracy propaganda that people eat up really is: a government psy-op to make one feel powerless in the face of a supposedly invincible government.

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CyberHustler 01-28-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17876466)
you are THE dumbest mother fucker here.

:2 cents:

Agent 488 01-28-2011 03:47 PM

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DWB 01-28-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17876487)
they could cut off the internet but so what? only a computer geek thinks that the world stops when the internet is cut off.

The OP asked if they could or would, I said yes.

At no time did I discuss the importance of the internet or what the people would do without it.

Move on.

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17876487)
and no regime is immune from being toppled. history shows at the right place and time even the most despotic regime can collapse.

Anyone could topple if the stars aligned, but the USA will not get toppled by the people.


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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17876487)
solders and cops aren't robots. many of them hate the regime as well and eventually give in and join the other side, as is happening in egypt now.

I guess you don't really comprehend how large our police force, National Guard and military really is, on a national scale. There will ALWAYS be those who will switch sides, but there will be more who follow orders when it comes time to restore order.


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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17876487)
like i said, know your history.

I know my history, but more importantly, I also know the present. The American people are not going to do shit. And any small pockets who do act up will be dealt with.

Never in history has a nations law enforcement / military been so advanced while its people so dumbed down, out of shape, unarmed, uneducated, and unmotivated. If there is ever any sort of a revolution in the USA, the majority of the people will watch it on TV.



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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17876487)
as an aside, it's times like this that shows what the conspiracy propaganda that people eat up really is: a government psy-op to make one feel powerless in the face of a supposedly invincible government.

Have you even ever been part of or in the middle of any large scale riot or political uprising? The answer is no, so keep reading on the internet and thinking you're smart and know what will happen, because I can assure you the American people no longer have what it takes to overthrow the US Government. It ain't gonna happen in our lifetime at least.

To think Americans could do what Egypt just did is laughable. Not these days. Americans can hardly even peacefully protest anymore without getting arrested in the process. Any real sight of a massive uprising on a national scale would be crushed quickly.

And the sad part is, their rights will continue to be stripped away, unemployment could rise to 25%, the USD could totally collapse, and they still would not act on a national level in the manner Egypt just did. You have a nation of worker bees and zombies who will do what they are told and sleep out for the latest iPhone while going in debt to buy it.

However, I'd love to be proven wrong on this and see all hell break lose to get some things back in line and remind the government who works for who. But I know I'll never see it in my lifetime.

Agent 488 01-28-2011 03:56 PM

of course it could not happen today. never said that. will it happen in our lifetime? who knows? is it impossible? no. nothing is permanent.

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17876544)
The OP asked if they could or would, I said yes.

At no time did I discuss the importance of the internet or what the people would do without it.

Move on.



Anyone could topple if the stars aligned, but the USA will not get toppled by the people.




I guess you don't really comprehend how large our police force, National Guard and military really is, on a national scale. There will ALWAYS be those who will switch sides, but there will be more who follow orders when it comes time to restore order.




I know my history, but more importantly, I also know the present. The American people are not going to do shit. And any small pockets who do act up will be dealt with.

Never in history has a nations law enforcement / military been so advanced while its people so dumbed down, out of shape, unarmed, uneducated, and unmotivated. If there is ever any sort of a revolution in the USA, the majority of the people will watch it on TV.





Have you even ever been part of or in the middle of any large scale riot or political uprising? The answer is no, so keep reading on the internet and thinking you're smart and know what will happen, because I can assure you the American people no longer have what it takes to overthrow the US Government. It ain't gonna happen in our lifetime at least.

To think Americans could do what Egypt just did is laughable. Not these days. Americans can hardly even peacefully protest anymore without getting arrested in the process. Any real sight of a massive uprising on a national scale would be crushed quickly.

And the sad part is, their rights will continue to be stripped away, unemployment could rise to 25%, the USD could totally collapse, and they still would not act on a national level in the manner Egypt just did. You have a nation of worker bees and zombies who will do what they are told and sleep out for the latest iPhone while going in debt to buy it.

However, I'd love to be proven wrong on this and see all hell break lose to get some things back in line and remind the government who works for who. But I know I'll never see it in my lifetime.


DWB 01-28-2011 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17876487)
and no regime is immune from being toppled. history shows at the right place and time even the most despotic regime can collapse.

solders and cops aren't robots. many of them hate the regime as well and eventually give in and join the other side, as is happening in egypt now.

like i said, know your history.

OK, here is where I will agree with you. If you were discussing a developing nation or some 3rd world shit pot, you are 100% correct. It can be done and sometimes is. I've seen it with my own eyes.

I've been in the middle of three large scale riots (foolishly taking photos) and I've been there to watch the people change their government, and I've seen them fail.

1) Venezuela 2002
2) Thailand 2006
3) Thailand 2010

It is absolute fucking chaos. But such a thing is to be expected in those types of countries. It is expected when you have a class of people so poor that they have nothing to lose. But he United States of America? No way. That sort of rebellion has been bred of the people, but even if some did get a bright idea or it even looked like some group might get out of line, they would go down like the Branch Davidians in Waco. And you see how well that worked out.

DWB 01-28-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17876558)
of course it could not happen today. never said that. will it happen in our lifetime? who knows? is it impossible? no. nothing is permanent.

It would take a new generation of people who will be raised in the poverty that is coming. People with no future or hope. People who have few rights. People who have nothing to lose and want a better life.

When the USA is filled with people like that, you'll get your revolution. Don't know if they will succeed or not, but they'll give it a shot.

But when people are more concerned with Facebook, American Idol and the latest iWhatever, instead of what their government is doing and allowing that government to get away with anything it wants, nothing is going to happen.

There are countless reasons why Americans should have already taken to the streets, but instead they will just vote the same ass hats back into office and wonder why nothing ever changes. In the meantime, they will be glued to the latest reality show, downing anti-depressants, eating fast food, poising themselves with aspartame, and poking their high school buddies on Facebook.

just a punk 01-28-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by camperjohn64 (Post 17876087)
Is Egypt a fundamentalist muslim country? I always thought it was one of the more modern eastern countries...

It never was. Egypt is a very extremist Muslim country. I always wanted to visit that country because of pyramids and Red Sea, but never did it because of fucking Islamic monkeys there.

just a punk 01-28-2011 04:42 PM

For example, Turkey is also very wild and rural country, but it's like a real modern civilization comparing with Egypt.

DWB 01-28-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 17876645)
It never was. Egypt is a very extremist Muslim country. I always wanted to visit that country because of pyramids and Red Sea, but never did it because of fucking Islamic monkeys there.

I'm no fan of Middle Eastern men, but Egypt's not that bad to visit. Go in to see what you want to see, hang out a bit and move on. It's dirtier than you think it would be, but the Muslims there are not as bad as you'd think.

DEA - banned for life 01-28-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17876570)
OK, here is where I will agree with you. If you were discussing a developing nation or some 3rd world shit pot, you are 100% correct. It can be done and sometimes is. I've seen it with my own eyes.

I've been in the middle of three large scale riots (foolishly taking photos) and I've been there to watch the people change their government, and I've seen them fail.

1) Venezuela 2002
2) Thailand 2006
3) Thailand 2010

It is absolute fucking chaos. But such a thing is to be expected in those types of countries. It is expected when you have a class of people so poor that they have nothing to lose. But he United States of America? No way. That sort of rebellion has been bred of the people, but even if some did get a bright idea or it even looked like some group might get out of line, they would go down like the Branch Davidians in Waco. And you see how well that worked out.

LOL the pics from thialand were crazy bro :thumbsup:thumbsup

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17876604)
When the USA is filled with people like that, you'll get your revolution. In the meantime, they will be glued to the latest reality show, downing anti-depressants, eating fast food, poising themselves with aspartame, and poking their high school buddies on Facebook.

LOL ya mean L.I. V. I. N. ?

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moeloubani 01-28-2011 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 17876645)
It never was. Egypt is a very extremist Muslim country. I always wanted to visit that country because of pyramids and Red Sea, but never did it because of fucking Islamic monkeys there.

LOL You would say that. Egypt is a very modern country and aside from what racist bigots would have you believe, a very good place to visit.

Millions of tourists go to Egypt every year with no problem and have a great time.

The only real extremist country left in the Middle East is Israel, and they soon too will fall victim to their corrupt and genocidal government.

CYF 01-28-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by camperjohn64 (Post 17876128)
Is it possible to write an iphone app that can act as an internet repeater? Imaging A wants to send a message to C and it goes: A<->B<->C where B is just a repeater. This would have to work without cell towers ie: peer to peer internet.

Hmmm...

You can make a "mesh network" out of wireless routers/wireless access points. It doesn't scale up very well, but it's an option.

Barry-xlovecam 01-28-2011 04:58 PM

Cutting of communications and many people's livelihoods is dangerous with a well armed population. American rioters would be armed with more that baseball bats. ...

just a punk 01-28-2011 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17876661)
I'm no fan of Middle Eastern men, but Egypt's not that bad to visit. Go in to see what you want to see, hang out a bit and move on. It's dirtier than you think it would be, but the Muslims there are not as bad as you'd think.

The people who were in Egypt (you know Egypt is a 2nd sea resort by popularity among Russians) say it's a very dirty (as you said) and bad place to visit. Their drivers have no idea what wheel is so many tourist are dying every year only because of car accidents. All off the hotel tours are escorted by guys with AK47 (seems there is a serious reason for that). The local cooking is insanitary. The local service is horrible. And so on... In my country Egypt is considered as a low-level resort.

For example, I know, I can live like a king for a fuckin' $5K per a week or even two in Turkey, but not in Egypt. Not because their hotels are more expensive, but because it doesn't matter how much you paid - the service will be terrible in any case.

:2 cents:

just a punk 01-28-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 17876671)
LOL You would say that. Egypt is a very modern country and aside from what racist bigots would have you believe, a very good place to visit.

Millions of tourists go to Egypt every year with no problem and have a great time.

The only real extremist country left in the Middle East is Israel, and they soon too will fall victim to their corrupt and genocidal government.

As a Russian I don't need a visa to visit either Egypt or Israel, but you know... I'm not ready to visit both countries, because I heard too many bad opinions on them as resorts.

DateDoc 01-28-2011 07:02 PM

Imagine what would happen if we had riots like that. Would the govt act peacefully and sit down and talk to the people like Obama is urging Egypt to.

Ron Bennett 01-28-2011 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17876604)
It would take a new generation of people who will be raised in the poverty that is coming. People with no future or hope. People who have few rights. People who have nothing to lose and want a better life.

When the USA is filled with people like that, you'll get your revolution. Don't know if they will succeed or not, but they'll give it a shot.

Well said. Think Jared Loughner types ... unemployed, no future, and hence nothing to lose.

Revolutions are driven by a relatively small fraction of people - currently, the U.S. is still somewhat stable, but the seeds for revolution are being sowed; large-scale poverty and hopelessness...

With that said, most people won't participate in revolution as long as they have "bread and circuses" ... giving out more food stamps and keeping the internet running (ensuring the various entertainment sites, such as YouTube and Facebook stayed up; maybe running with restrictions) would more likely be the approach to quell the anger of the masses.

Also, another problem with shutting down the internet is a lot of infrastructure (water / sewer plants, power utilities, phone companies, etc) depend on it working 24/7 - the days of critical utilities having their own separate wide area networks have gone to the wayside to save money.

Ron

directfiesta 01-28-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17876338)
Another idiot that has no idea what he's talking about. The Egyptians have their own weapons factories build by the Soviets in the 60's. The vast majority of the US military arms are F-16 jets and I highly doubt they are used for crowd control. The majority of that $1 billion in aid goes to farm and agriculture products monitored by corporations. Also, they don't have any oil. There is no comparison to Sadam accept maybe the same skin color.

The only fact in your post is there are ignorant people from the Netherlands.

hy brainwash ... how goes ?

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In fiscal 2009, the United States spent about $1.5 billion on aid to Egypt, 86 percent of it military aid.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41317259/ns/politics/

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nico-t 01-29-2011 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17876338)
Another idiot that has no idea what he's talking about. The Egyptians have their own weapons factories build by the Soviets in the 60's. The vast majority of the US military arms are F-16 jets and I highly doubt they are used for crowd control. The majority of that $1 billion in aid goes to farm and agriculture products monitored by corporations. Also, they don't have any oil. There is no comparison to Sadam accept maybe the same skin color.

The only fact in your post is there are ignorant people from the Netherlands.

sure :1orglaugh

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